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		<title>By: David Berube</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies/comment-page-1#comment-4795</link>
		<dc:creator>David Berube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I read your &quot;shellfish&quot; rebuttal, but I think it&#039;s logically flawed.  I stand by my original accusation that fundamentalists pick and choose from the Bible and follow only what is convenient to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I read your &#8220;shellfish&#8221; rebuttal, but I think it&#8217;s logically flawed.  I stand by my original accusation that fundamentalists pick and choose from the Bible and follow only what is convenient to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies/comment-page-1#comment-4793</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shrimp / shellfish argument is full of holes but is appealing to many because so few bother to study the passages. I address five serious problems with it in &lt;a href=&quot;http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/favorite-dish-of-liberal-theologians-skeptics-shellfish/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;flaws of the shellfish argument&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s the short version: There were different Hebrew words translated as abomination.  They were used differently in the individual verses and were used very differently in broader contexts.  The associated sins had radically different consequences and had 100% different treatments in the New Testament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shrimp / shellfish argument is full of holes but is appealing to many because so few bother to study the passages. I address five serious problems with it in <a href="http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/favorite-dish-of-liberal-theologians-skeptics-shellfish/" rel="nofollow">flaws of the shellfish argument</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version: There were different Hebrew words translated as abomination.  They were used differently in the individual verses and were used very differently in broader contexts.  The associated sins had radically different consequences and had 100% different treatments in the New Testament.</p>
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		<title>By: David Berube</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Berube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, where to start...

The idea that “abominations” in refers to homosexuality is pure speculation.  The Bible calls many things “abominations,&quot; including eating shellfish.  (Leviticus 11:10)  But I don&#039;t see any web sites attacking the &quot;Shellfish Agenda&quot; or groups protesting seafood restaurants.  If you try to use the argument in Item #6 that it&#039;s OK to ignore some of the Old Testament but not others, you are on indefensible ground.  Unless you can show me where Jesus says ignore Leviticus 11:10, but not 20:13, you have moved beyond supposition and into presumption.

You are presuming to know God&#039;s will beyond what is explicitly laid out in the Bible.  I shouldn&#039;t have to tell you that presumption is a sin.  In fact, Satan tempted Jesus to this sin when he said &quot;If you are the Son of God...throw yourself down from here&quot; after Jesus&#039; forty days in the desert, which we honor now during Lent.

Finally, the men of Sodom--ALL THE MEN of Sodom--came to Lot&#039;s house and commanded Lot to produce the angels so &quot;that we may know them.&quot;  (Genesis 19:5)  Even in our current &quot;depraved end-times,&quot; only about 3-6% of the population is homosexual.  It seems highly unlikely that every single man in Sodom wanted to rape the guests.  It is much more likely that they wanted to know who these men were.  Lot was the nephew of the extremely powerful patriarch Abraham.  It was custom at that time that visitors to a city would be introduced to the Powers That Be.  For Lot to receive strangers in the dark of night was suspicious.  However, the Sodomites moblike treatment of Lot&#039;s guest was again--you guessed it--&quot;inhospitable.&quot;

Homosexuals can read the Bible, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, where to start&#8230;</p>
<p>The idea that “abominations” in refers to homosexuality is pure speculation.  The Bible calls many things “abominations,&#8221; including eating shellfish.  (Leviticus 11:10)  But I don&#8217;t see any web sites attacking the &#8220;Shellfish Agenda&#8221; or groups protesting seafood restaurants.  If you try to use the argument in Item #6 that it&#8217;s OK to ignore some of the Old Testament but not others, you are on indefensible ground.  Unless you can show me where Jesus says ignore Leviticus 11:10, but not 20:13, you have moved beyond supposition and into presumption.</p>
<p>You are presuming to know God&#8217;s will beyond what is explicitly laid out in the Bible.  I shouldn&#8217;t have to tell you that presumption is a sin.  In fact, Satan tempted Jesus to this sin when he said &#8220;If you are the Son of God&#8230;throw yourself down from here&#8221; after Jesus&#8217; forty days in the desert, which we honor now during Lent.</p>
<p>Finally, the men of Sodom&#8211;ALL THE MEN of Sodom&#8211;came to Lot&#8217;s house and commanded Lot to produce the angels so &#8220;that we may know them.&#8221;  (Genesis 19:5)  Even in our current &#8220;depraved end-times,&#8221; only about 3-6% of the population is homosexual.  It seems highly unlikely that every single man in Sodom wanted to rape the guests.  It is much more likely that they wanted to know who these men were.  Lot was the nephew of the extremely powerful patriarch Abraham.  It was custom at that time that visitors to a city would be introduced to the Powers That Be.  For Lot to receive strangers in the dark of night was suspicious.  However, the Sodomites moblike treatment of Lot&#8217;s guest was again&#8211;you guessed it&#8211;&#8221;inhospitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Homosexuals can read the Bible, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Drillsgt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drillsgt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the statements from these questions. The Bible is very clear on Gods standards for Sin including homosexuality. There are those who fail and refuse to believe that God is not ok with their homosexual lifestyle and will fight it until they die. I pray for all people but mostly for those who are struggling with homosexuality, who knows that the bible is right and that homosexuality is a sin but still struggle with those feelings. Just like the man that is struggling with Drugs or fornication with women. We all need to pray for each other in order to stay strong and fight off what ever tempts us. Just becasue you are saved and have relationship with the lord doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t struggle the the trials of life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the statements from these questions. The Bible is very clear on Gods standards for Sin including homosexuality. There are those who fail and refuse to believe that God is not ok with their homosexual lifestyle and will fight it until they die. I pray for all people but mostly for those who are struggling with homosexuality, who knows that the bible is right and that homosexuality is a sin but still struggle with those feelings. Just like the man that is struggling with Drugs or fornication with women. We all need to pray for each other in order to stay strong and fight off what ever tempts us. Just becasue you are saved and have relationship with the lord doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t struggle the the trials of life!</p>
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		<title>By: Roundup &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies/comment-page-1#comment-4791</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the top 15 lies of the pro-gay theological [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 456charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>456charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malik is even a heretic within the false religion of Islam.  Not only is he a homosexual, which is not approved, but their precious Quran noted 600 years ago in the very words of the lunatic Prophet Muhammad, that Jesus was born of a Virgin.  Talk about dazed, confused and grasping at straws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malik is even a heretic within the false religion of Islam.  Not only is he a homosexual, which is not approved, but their precious Quran noted 600 years ago in the very words of the lunatic Prophet Muhammad, that Jesus was born of a Virgin.  Talk about dazed, confused and grasping at straws.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies/comment-page-1#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list and responses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list and responses!</p>
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		<title>By: seriousaboutthegospel</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies/comment-page-1#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>seriousaboutthegospel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There appear to be many that do not fear the words of Christ.
Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven!
By our words we are justified and by our words we are condemned.
Some who seek to justify abomination would be better off seeking to be obedient unto the Lord!
Maybe then he would open their eyes.
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There appear to be many that do not fear the words of Christ.<br />
Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven!<br />
By our words we are justified and by our words we are condemned.<br />
Some who seek to justify abomination would be better off seeking to be obedient unto the Lord!<br />
Maybe then he would open their eyes.<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GiG, words escape me to describe the utter insanity going on at Faris Malik&#039;s site. Yes, I let it stand because it is a shocking example of what I have been so diligently exposing on this blog. This could only come out of the mouths of demons.

These are the people who are telling-demanding the church include them in leadership!!! Allowing them in gives authority to demons in the house of God. What madness!

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter days some shall depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. 1 Timothy 4:1&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GiG, words escape me to describe the utter insanity going on at Faris Malik&#8217;s site. Yes, I let it stand because it is a shocking example of what I have been so diligently exposing on this blog. This could only come out of the mouths of demons.</p>
<p>These are the people who are telling-demanding the church include them in leadership!!! Allowing them in gives authority to demons in the house of God. What madness!</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.gcmwatch.com/1528/answering-the-gcms-top-lies#comment-"><p>Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter days some shall depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. 1 Timothy 4:1</p>
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		<title>By: Growing in Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Growing in Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right on again gcmwatch!  After reading Kyle&#039;s statement (and fighting back the tears from laughter) I see better the extent this movement is going through trying to negate the Word of God.  I&#039;ve heard most of this but the birth of Mary is something new for me.  I&#039;ll make sure and spread the word... Thank you for allowing this post to stand as I would probably have deleted it.  I noticed you didn&#039;t get an answer regarding Biblical evidence of these theories.  He actually quoted the quran! Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right on again gcmwatch!  After reading Kyle&#8217;s statement (and fighting back the tears from laughter) I see better the extent this movement is going through trying to negate the Word of God.  I&#8217;ve heard most of this but the birth of Mary is something new for me.  I&#8217;ll make sure and spread the word&#8230; Thank you for allowing this post to stand as I would probably have deleted it.  I noticed you didn&#8217;t get an answer regarding Biblical evidence of these theories.  He actually quoted the quran! Unbelievable.</p>
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