Comments on: Open Forum V: Mars Hill http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Drillsgt http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4833 Drillsgt Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:54:20 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4833 Lets be realistic. Every Mega church is not going to hell because of it's size and does not mean that they are preaching a gospel of Health, Wealth, and Properity. Yes there are some Mega church that are not doing things to Glorify God but there are small churches that do the same thing. Think about it. How did a mega church get so large? No church starts out with 10,000 members they start small and then grow. What is wrong with a God lead church out growing its four walls in order to allow for more people to be apart of what God has blessed. For example look at your church, Say it started with 50 members then expands to 100 then 500 then 1500 and so on. It would crazy to not expand as people begin to join the ministry in order to allow them to be apart of what God is doing. I belong to a large church that teaches directly from the word of God, not about how to proper and get rich but how to live a Holy and Spirit lead life and survive the trials and tribulations that life throws at you. It is widely know that We do not support Homosexuality nor Gay marriage but we don't turn people away and say you can't come here because you are a homosexual either. If a homosexual never goes to church and heres the word of God preached then how can they get delivered. As far as the size of the church and how it relates to it's members. we do have cell groups that make interacting with members easier so you do get to know people within the church. We have several associate pastors that can be called upon at anytime for what ever reason along with our pastor. I admit it is different then going to a small church where everyone know everyone and if that is what you perfer then go where you please. But I think it's wrong to label mega churchs as some thing that is non biblical or not of God. As far as earlier comments about mega churches in the bible, It makes since to me that there would not be any larges churches after the reserrection because the church was persecuted. Think about it, Why did the 3000 that join on the day of pentecost disperce. If they crucified Jesus then waht do you think they would do anyone who openly followed him and preached the word of God. So naturally the multitude that was there on the day of pentecost would not have remained a large group. This in no way means tha todays mega churches are not biblical. Keep in mind that the bible gives a view of what happened when the church started but not a view as to how the church has grown. Lets be realistic. Every Mega church is not going to hell because of it’s size and does not mean that they are preaching a gospel of Health, Wealth, and Properity. Yes there are some Mega church that are not doing things to Glorify God but there are small churches that do the same thing.

Think about it. How did a mega church get so large? No church starts out with 10,000 members they start small and then grow. What is wrong with a God lead church out growing its four walls in order to allow for more people to be apart of what God has blessed. For example look at your church, Say it started with 50 members then expands to 100 then 500 then 1500 and so on. It would crazy to not expand as people begin to join the ministry in order to allow them to be apart of what God is doing.

I belong to a large church that teaches directly from the word of God, not about how to proper and get rich but how to live a Holy and Spirit lead life and survive the trials and tribulations that life throws at you. It is widely know that We do not support Homosexuality nor Gay marriage but we don’t turn people away and say you can’t come here because you are a homosexual either. If a homosexual never goes to church and heres the word of God preached then how can they get delivered.

As far as the size of the church and how it relates to it’s members. we do have cell groups that make interacting with members easier so you do get to know people within the church. We have several associate pastors that can be called upon at anytime for what ever reason along with our pastor. I admit it is different then going to a small church where everyone know everyone and if that is what you perfer then go where you please. But I think it’s wrong to label mega churchs as some thing that is non biblical or not of God.

As far as earlier comments about mega churches in the bible, It makes since to me that there would not be any larges churches after the reserrection because the church was persecuted. Think about it, Why did the 3000 that join on the day of pentecost disperce. If they crucified Jesus then waht do you think they would do anyone who openly followed him and preached the word of God. So naturally the multitude that was there on the day of pentecost would not have remained a large group. This in no way means tha todays mega churches are not biblical. Keep in mind that the bible gives a view of what happened when the church started but not a view as to how the church has grown.

]]> By: Elder Jimmy http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4832 Elder Jimmy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:32:36 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4832 Jesus also had many who came to hear him speak and to eat of the fish and the loaves. They were the crowds. When he began his teachings (hard sayings) the crowds thinned out. There is the crowd, the followers and the disciples. Not everyone in the Mega church (or small church either for that matter) are real followers of Christ. Even fewer ar disciples. Wheat and tares bretheren, wheat and tares. Discipleship has a cost; Discipline and obedience. Most folk are running from that in the church. They belong to the "The Lord knows my heart group." THe continue in the same ol' way of life and promise they'll get it together one day. Many of the mega pastors are promising fish and loaves; prosperity, no sickness, etc. Jesus also had many who came to hear him speak and to eat of the fish and the loaves. They were the crowds. When he began his teachings (hard sayings) the crowds thinned out. There is the crowd, the followers and the disciples. Not everyone in the Mega church (or small church either for that matter) are real followers of Christ. Even fewer ar disciples. Wheat and tares bretheren, wheat and tares. Discipleship has a cost; Discipline and obedience. Most folk are running from that in the church. They belong to the “The Lord knows my heart group.” THe continue in the same ol’ way of life and promise they’ll get it together one day. Many of the mega pastors are promising fish and loaves; prosperity, no sickness, etc.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4831 gcmwatch Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:28:03 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4831 Kathy, wow! How VERY true. Im going to write a post on the differences between sheep and goats. Kathy, wow! How VERY true.
Im going to write a post on the differences between sheep and goats.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4830 Kathy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:43:37 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4830 Ed, Your comment reminded me of something I heard years ago: "The problem with too many churches is that they spend too much time entertaining the goats, instead of feeding the sheep." I heartily concur with that statement. Ed,

Your comment reminded me of something I heard years ago:

“The problem with too many churches is that they spend too much time entertaining the goats, instead of feeding the sheep.”

I heartily concur with that statement.

]]> By: Ed http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4829 Ed Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:26:46 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4829 I believe that it is the fruit of the church, not it's size that determines whether or not a church is walking in biblical truth. Now that being said, unfortunately alot of churches have received "mega" status because of the leadership's devotion to marketing, watering down the Gospel, and catering to itching ears rather than standing strong on the Word. Though that seems to be becoming more of the norm these days, I still do not believe that it is impossible to have a large church without compromising the Word and the works that the Word says we should produce. It's just that many pastors have begun to trust more in crafty plans to "reach" people, rather than relying on the Word to draw people. Thousands of people would come to hear Jesus speak without any marketing at all on his part. The Word worked then, and it still works today. I believe that there are people out there who are serious and hungry for the Word, and that a large church could be started and maintained on the Word alone. The question is which would be better to find in a city? A few large churches where the people all fellowship together, hear the pure Word of God and are taught to put it into practice. Or 20 small churches on the same street (which you will find in Newark, NJ) which are in competition with each other and really don't do much to affect the environment. It's the fruit that counts, not the size. I believe that it is the fruit of the church, not it’s size that determines whether or not a church is walking in biblical truth. Now that being said, unfortunately alot of churches have received “mega” status because of the leadership’s devotion to marketing, watering down the Gospel, and catering to itching ears rather than standing strong on the Word. Though that seems to be becoming more of the norm these days, I still do not believe that it is impossible to have a large church without compromising the Word and the works that the Word says we should produce. It’s just that many pastors have begun to trust more in crafty plans to “reach” people, rather than relying on the Word to draw people. Thousands of people would come to hear Jesus speak without any marketing at all on his part. The Word worked then, and it still works today. I believe that there are people out there who are serious and hungry for the Word, and that a large church could be started and maintained on the Word alone. The question is which would be better to find in a city? A few large churches where the people all fellowship together, hear the pure Word of God and are taught to put it into practice. Or 20 small churches on the same street (which you will find in Newark, NJ) which are in competition with each other and really don’t do much to affect the environment. It’s the fruit that counts, not the size.

]]> By: nan http://www.gcmwatch.com/1552/open-forum-v-mars-hill/comment-page-1#comment-4828 nan Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:40:27 +0000 http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/?p=1552#comment-4828 the mega church isn't going to die out. It is tied into the government and with people like TD Jakes who the government likes and pushes and approves of to the masses of the people. They love TD Jakes and he will continue to deceive the people with his books he didn't write and his movies and his acting WOW!!!!!!!!. I ask the question, "Why would anyone who has been called to preach the gospel want to become an actor?" What does that have to to with teaching the word of God. Many have been deceived by him and many of the other fake preachers who have sold their souls to the devil for profit. Joel Osteen is another one who they have pushed to the forefront to deceive the people with his smile. He is a smooth operator. the mega church isn’t going to die out. It is tied into the government and with people like TD Jakes who the government likes and pushes and approves of to the masses of the people. They love TD Jakes and he will continue to deceive the people with his books he didn’t write and his movies and his acting WOW!!!!!!!!. I ask the question, “Why would anyone who has been called to preach the gospel want to become an actor?” What does that have to to with teaching the word of God. Many have been deceived by him and many of the other fake preachers who have sold their souls to the devil for profit. Joel Osteen is another one who they have pushed to the forefront to deceive the people with his smile. He is a smooth operator.

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