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	<title>Comments on: An unholy covenant: our response to Bishop Blake&#039;s defense document</title>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-#comment-5522</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph, please read the latest post.

Your last couple of questions are indeed sidebars that I dont want to get into right now in detail other than to say in the context I have written the season we are in has caused an accelerated use of the UDIHR in key &quot;human rights&quot; cases on the international spectrum. To me it is a push pin in a broader eschatological (sp) framework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph, please read the latest post.</p>
<p>Your last couple of questions are indeed sidebars that I dont want to get into right now in detail other than to say in the context I have written the season we are in has caused an accelerated use of the UDIHR in key &#8220;human rights&#8221; cases on the international spectrum. To me it is a push pin in a broader eschatological (sp) framework.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-#comment-5521</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CT,

I could only imagine some of what might have occurred at the &quot;Holy&quot; convocation. I am still somewhat appalled with the leaders inviting a known &quot;ONENESS&quot; in Jakes to plant his feet in the holy pulpit at this supposed sanctified and sacred event.
Talking about &quot;ecumenical&quot;. I guess it was their (COGIC) ploy to usher in a new charisma so that a good time can be had by all. And for those who would support this garbage, I say like you - &quot;There are quite a few bible illiterate Christians in the church today&quot;. SAD!!! Heep the faith my brotha/sista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CT,</p>
<p>I could only imagine some of what might have occurred at the &#8220;Holy&#8221; convocation. I am still somewhat appalled with the leaders inviting a known &#8220;ONENESS&#8221; in Jakes to plant his feet in the holy pulpit at this supposed sanctified and sacred event.<br />
Talking about &#8220;ecumenical&#8221;. I guess it was their (COGIC) ploy to usher in a new charisma so that a good time can be had by all. And for those who would support this garbage, I say like you &#8211; &#8220;There are quite a few bible illiterate Christians in the church today&#8221;. SAD!!! Heep the faith my brotha/sista.</p>
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		<title>By: hannibaltharadio</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-1#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>hannibaltharadio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All of the injustices you want to fight are rooted in the lack of Jesus Christ…&quot;

and that&#039;s the bottom line.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All of the injustices you want to fight are rooted in the lack of Jesus Christ…&#8221;</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s the bottom line&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-1#comment-5516</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bishop Blake, Dr. Hall, and others may be convinced of the efficacy and significance of the various arms of the United Nations, but I&#039;m not. Nonetheless, I wasn&#039;t attempting to justify Bishop&#039;s beliefs or assertions in this matter. The major sadness I have with your original blog (and with some aspects of the subsequent ones) is that the overblown language distracted from a real critique of the efficacy of secular and interfaith alliances to promote an international outreach agenda. Sensationalism is a non-starter... for example, it closes the ears of the Blake supporters and even neutral observers in the COGIC when you accuse him in a bold headline of endorsing a &quot;gay marriage declaration&quot; yet the document in question DECLARES nothing about gay marriage. I don&#039;t believe you&#039;re posting these articles merely to see your name in print--I think that you have a desire to persuade and convince readers about the challenges facing the modern church. Persuasive writing must avoid gross exaggeration, as it undercuts its credibility. And that, in my opinion, is not a trivial concern.

As we all know, Bishop Blake is attempting to spur the COGIC into a new era of social action... trying to again put our faith into shoe-leather. He is very concerned, for example, with issues of poverty, hunger and disease on the African continent... and he wants to inculcate an urgency about these issues in the rest of us. But as a COGIC member, I have some trepidation about the alliances he has been willing to make to further these humanitarian causes. As you have excellently reported in past blogs, the Gomes fiasco was an example of such an alliance biting Bishop in the posterior. And there are more dire risks than just bad PR, obviously. At this pivotal moment, we in the COGIC need cogent, level-headed analysis to reference as we engage our leadership and other members about the dangers of a strategy of alliances. Sad to say, it will now be difficult to reference GCMWATCH, given how the exaggerated claims in the original post in particular made it easy for leadership to dismiss the messenger (if not the message).

As an aside, do you really believe the UDIHR has practical authority? Sixty years after the UDHR was signed, have the signatory nations even made much of an effort to end human rights abuses within their borders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bishop Blake, Dr. Hall, and others may be convinced of the efficacy and significance of the various arms of the United Nations, but I&#8217;m not. Nonetheless, I wasn&#8217;t attempting to justify Bishop&#8217;s beliefs or assertions in this matter. The major sadness I have with your original blog (and with some aspects of the subsequent ones) is that the overblown language distracted from a real critique of the efficacy of secular and interfaith alliances to promote an international outreach agenda. Sensationalism is a non-starter&#8230; for example, it closes the ears of the Blake supporters and even neutral observers in the COGIC when you accuse him in a bold headline of endorsing a &#8220;gay marriage declaration&#8221; yet the document in question DECLARES nothing about gay marriage. I don&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re posting these articles merely to see your name in print&#8211;I think that you have a desire to persuade and convince readers about the challenges facing the modern church. Persuasive writing must avoid gross exaggeration, as it undercuts its credibility. And that, in my opinion, is not a trivial concern.</p>
<p>As we all know, Bishop Blake is attempting to spur the COGIC into a new era of social action&#8230; trying to again put our faith into shoe-leather. He is very concerned, for example, with issues of poverty, hunger and disease on the African continent&#8230; and he wants to inculcate an urgency about these issues in the rest of us. But as a COGIC member, I have some trepidation about the alliances he has been willing to make to further these humanitarian causes. As you have excellently reported in past blogs, the Gomes fiasco was an example of such an alliance biting Bishop in the posterior. And there are more dire risks than just bad PR, obviously. At this pivotal moment, we in the COGIC need cogent, level-headed analysis to reference as we engage our leadership and other members about the dangers of a strategy of alliances. Sad to say, it will now be difficult to reference GCMWATCH, given how the exaggerated claims in the original post in particular made it easy for leadership to dismiss the messenger (if not the message).</p>
<p>As an aside, do you really believe the UDIHR has practical authority? Sixty years after the UDHR was signed, have the signatory nations even made much of an effort to end human rights abuses within their borders?</p>
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		<title>By: Growing in Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-1#comment-5515</link>
		<dc:creator>Growing in Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For me, the symbolism of joining the world in making a stance against genocide, tyranny and injustice is powerful to me.&quot;

I would just say be careful and stay prayerful about your cause.  I have never found a time when I was directed by God to do something or help someone and I had to join the world to get it accomplished.  Scripture says to be with the world is to be against God.  I just don&#039;t believe you need both; symbolism or not.

Ironic that you have to join the world to rid it of it&#039;s worldly behavior.  All of the injustices you want to fight are rooted in the lack of Jesus Christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For me, the symbolism of joining the world in making a stance against genocide, tyranny and injustice is powerful to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would just say be careful and stay prayerful about your cause.  I have never found a time when I was directed by God to do something or help someone and I had to join the world to get it accomplished.  Scripture says to be with the world is to be against God.  I just don&#8217;t believe you need both; symbolism or not.</p>
<p>Ironic that you have to join the world to rid it of it&#8217;s worldly behavior.  All of the injustices you want to fight are rooted in the lack of Jesus Christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hannibaltharadio</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2006/an-unholy-covenant-our-response-to-bishop-blakes-defense-document/comment-page-1#comment-5519</link>
		<dc:creator>hannibaltharadio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote: Whatever is going on in this world, should be solved through PRAY,FASTING and STAYING IN THE WORD OF GOD. The Holy Spirit himself will direct us to what needs to be done.

I know what the Holy Spirit says to me and it is not that we should sit in our pews and do nothing as world tyranny, poverty, atrocities and the like just run rampant in the community and the world. I mean, God is in me and when he says move, I move... I believe in the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit and in it I am directed to move about the community building peace, love and working to promote social and economic justice, and alleviate poverty as tangible expressions of the Kingdom of God...

These days people are seeking God more desparetly than ever, isn&#039;t that evidence that the Holy Spirit wants us to get busy in the direction of combatting the evil principalities in the world and promoting peace and love?

quote: What in us needs to be slain so that the Holy Spirit can work through us. We need to also ask the LORD for discernment so that we can discern the things of GOD.

what needs to be slain is complacency in the body of Christ. We need to get out of our pews, get from behind the walls of our churches and get out in these streets and advance Christ&#039;s agenda.. Be demonstrative to the masses that which is the commandment of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - love one another. In today&#039;s world, we cannot show love sitting up in our churches with our hats and suits, we have to hit the bricks whether it&#039;s in our communities or on the world stage...

As to the argument that we should not be associating with other religions, that in and of itself is an interesting conversation. Maybe we don&#039;t need some document, that&#039;s for you denominational scholars to debate, and judging by some of these posts, it feels to me like folk are reducing the issue down to spritual gangbanging....

All I know is that you will not lose any portion of the light that burns inside you if you share it with the world... In fact it is that light that will attract the world to you so you can be a witness to the essence of God in Jesus Christ...

For me, the symbolism of joining the world in making a stance against genocide, tyranny and injustice is powerful to me.

And I stand with Bishop Blake...

Greg J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quote: Whatever is going on in this world, should be solved through PRAY,FASTING and STAYING IN THE WORD OF GOD. The Holy Spirit himself will direct us to what needs to be done.</p>
<p>I know what the Holy Spirit says to me and it is not that we should sit in our pews and do nothing as world tyranny, poverty, atrocities and the like just run rampant in the community and the world. I mean, God is in me and when he says move, I move&#8230; I believe in the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit and in it I am directed to move about the community building peace, love and working to promote social and economic justice, and alleviate poverty as tangible expressions of the Kingdom of God&#8230;</p>
<p>These days people are seeking God more desparetly than ever, isn&#8217;t that evidence that the Holy Spirit wants us to get busy in the direction of combatting the evil principalities in the world and promoting peace and love?</p>
<p>quote: What in us needs to be slain so that the Holy Spirit can work through us. We need to also ask the LORD for discernment so that we can discern the things of GOD.</p>
<p>what needs to be slain is complacency in the body of Christ. We need to get out of our pews, get from behind the walls of our churches and get out in these streets and advance Christ&#8217;s agenda.. Be demonstrative to the masses that which is the commandment of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ &#8211; love one another. In today&#8217;s world, we cannot show love sitting up in our churches with our hats and suits, we have to hit the bricks whether it&#8217;s in our communities or on the world stage&#8230;</p>
<p>As to the argument that we should not be associating with other religions, that in and of itself is an interesting conversation. Maybe we don&#8217;t need some document, that&#8217;s for you denominational scholars to debate, and judging by some of these posts, it feels to me like folk are reducing the issue down to spritual gangbanging&#8230;.</p>
<p>All I know is that you will not lose any portion of the light that burns inside you if you share it with the world&#8230; In fact it is that light that will attract the world to you so you can be a witness to the essence of God in Jesus Christ&#8230;</p>
<p>For me, the symbolism of joining the world in making a stance against genocide, tyranny and injustice is powerful to me.</p>
<p>And I stand with Bishop Blake&#8230;</p>
<p>Greg J.</p>
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