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		<title>By: charzetta3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyn,

This video was the bomb !!!!! Completely enjoyed it !!!!</description>
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<p>This video was the bomb !!!!! Completely enjoyed it !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: spidey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what? that doesn&#039;t make sense, jesus was the fulfilling of the law. he said to the young ruler that the only thing he lacked was selling all his stuff and following him-after he had doen the commandments all his life. nbowhere does it say that you&#039;re just supposed to be &quot;motivational&quot; in the Word of God, the unadulterated one that is. the scriptures above testify of that truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what? that doesn&#8217;t make sense, jesus was the fulfilling of the law. he said to the young ruler that the only thing he lacked was selling all his stuff and following him-after he had doen the commandments all his life. nbowhere does it say that you&#8217;re just supposed to be &#8220;motivational&#8221; in the Word of God, the unadulterated one that is. the scriptures above testify of that truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Elder!</description>
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		<title>By: elder jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>elder jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your assumptions about my concerns of Osteen&#039;s lack of message say waaay more about you than I.  You attempt to correct &quot;judging&quot; by judging others yourself? You really have no real knowledge as to what I might say about Osteen&#039;s church if he corrected his unbalanced teaching.  In fact, your OWN words echo a Pharisaical tone; you have judged based on your suppostion.  We don&#039;t adhere to your thoughts about Osteen&#039;s doctrine so then WE are Pharisees?  I don&#039;t have a problem with large churches.  I have a problem with churches that deceive people with watered down messages and insufficent teaching.  Most admonitions here are for balance.  There is something in between the message that Osteen brings and the &quot;lawful, fussy, condemning, finger pointing, hellfire and brimstone&quot; message you assume I/we feel essential to the gospel message.

The fact that you pose to me a question that should certainly already be clear in your mind since the gospels; Christ own words and the NT epistles makes the answer to your question obvious to a believer, is not worth the effort my hands need to make to give a real answer.

Incidentally, Jesus did once thin His crowd out with a hard word about  His message. So He understood that the crowds do not automatically mean that all of them are disciples.  You state that you feel that we critique Osteen simply because he has a large church. You have no idea as to what my motivations are beyond what I have disclosed.  I am others are also miserable also as you have stated.
Real misery is thinking you know the truth and not be aware that you don&#039;t know that you don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your assumptions about my concerns of Osteen&#8217;s lack of message say waaay more about you than I.  You attempt to correct &#8220;judging&#8221; by judging others yourself? You really have no real knowledge as to what I might say about Osteen&#8217;s church if he corrected his unbalanced teaching.  In fact, your OWN words echo a Pharisaical tone; you have judged based on your suppostion.  We don&#8217;t adhere to your thoughts about Osteen&#8217;s doctrine so then WE are Pharisees?  I don&#8217;t have a problem with large churches.  I have a problem with churches that deceive people with watered down messages and insufficent teaching.  Most admonitions here are for balance.  There is something in between the message that Osteen brings and the &#8220;lawful, fussy, condemning, finger pointing, hellfire and brimstone&#8221; message you assume I/we feel essential to the gospel message.</p>
<p>The fact that you pose to me a question that should certainly already be clear in your mind since the gospels; Christ own words and the NT epistles makes the answer to your question obvious to a believer, is not worth the effort my hands need to make to give a real answer.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Jesus did once thin His crowd out with a hard word about  His message. So He understood that the crowds do not automatically mean that all of them are disciples.  You state that you feel that we critique Osteen simply because he has a large church. You have no idea as to what my motivations are beyond what I have disclosed.  I am others are also miserable also as you have stated.<br />
Real misery is thinking you know the truth and not be aware that you don&#8217;t know that you don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry
Does Osteen preach on the command to repent? Does he speak of how wicked and vile we all are? Does he mention what comes out of our own hearts - - murder, sexual immorality, hate, jealousy, greed, selfishness, arrogance, idolatry, etc.?
Has he said we are sinners without hope apart from the Lord Jesus Christ? Does he expound on the new birth?

Have you been born from above Henry? Has God crushed you under the weight of your sins...bringing you to Godly sorrow which leads to repentance? Have you cried out, &#039;O God have mercy on me!&#039;  Are you a new creation in Christ, being changed from the INSIDE OUT? Only God can give us a new heart and put His Spirit within us {please read Ezekiel 36:26.27}.
Too many today are professing Christ with their mouths, yet their hearts remained unchanged. They continue living just as they did before they professed Christ. That is because men like Osteen FAIL to preach the whole counsel, especially the doctrine of regeneration.
&quot; Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.&quot; 2 Cor. 5:17
&quot;For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. &quot; Gal. 6:15
The &#039;new creation&#039; is evidence of the power of God as He re-births a lost, wicked sinner into a &#039;new creation&#039;. This new creature no longer practices habitual sin. The rest of his/her life will be spent under the surgical &#039;knife&#039; of the Great Physician as He cuts away sin in the life of His child. Obvious sins will be shed right away, others which are embedded a little deeper will come out as the new believer studies the word of God.

Preaching His truth does not include picking and choosing what you want to say, or shying away for fear of not &#039;filling up&#039; your church. The truth of God&#039;s word is offensive and will NOT fill up a church, but instead, empty it. Lost sinners do not want to hear how sinful they are. They want to hear about the Jesus who will give them all their carnal hearts desire, material possessions, wealth, comfort...all this life has to offer. That is NOT what the true Gospel says, in fact, it states just the opposite. . .
&quot;If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.&quot; John 15:19
&quot;Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.&quot; 2 Timothy 3:12
&quot;Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.&quot; 1 John 2:15
&quot;So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.&quot; Luke 14:33
&quot;Now godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain  we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.&quot; 1 Timothy 6:6-9
The word of God shoots holes in Osteen&#039;s gospel of &#039;your best life now&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry<br />
Does Osteen preach on the command to repent? Does he speak of how wicked and vile we all are? Does he mention what comes out of our own hearts &#8211; - murder, sexual immorality, hate, jealousy, greed, selfishness, arrogance, idolatry, etc.?<br />
Has he said we are sinners without hope apart from the Lord Jesus Christ? Does he expound on the new birth?</p>
<p>Have you been born from above Henry? Has God crushed you under the weight of your sins&#8230;bringing you to Godly sorrow which leads to repentance? Have you cried out, &#8216;O God have mercy on me!&#8217;  Are you a new creation in Christ, being changed from the INSIDE OUT? Only God can give us a new heart and put His Spirit within us {please read Ezekiel 36:26.27}.<br />
Too many today are professing Christ with their mouths, yet their hearts remained unchanged. They continue living just as they did before they professed Christ. That is because men like Osteen FAIL to preach the whole counsel, especially the doctrine of regeneration.<br />
&#8221; Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.&#8221; 2 Cor. 5:17<br />
&#8220;For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. &#8221; Gal. 6:15<br />
The &#8216;new creation&#8217; is evidence of the power of God as He re-births a lost, wicked sinner into a &#8216;new creation&#8217;. This new creature no longer practices habitual sin. The rest of his/her life will be spent under the surgical &#8216;knife&#8217; of the Great Physician as He cuts away sin in the life of His child. Obvious sins will be shed right away, others which are embedded a little deeper will come out as the new believer studies the word of God.</p>
<p>Preaching His truth does not include picking and choosing what you want to say, or shying away for fear of not &#8216;filling up&#8217; your church. The truth of God&#8217;s word is offensive and will NOT fill up a church, but instead, empty it. Lost sinners do not want to hear how sinful they are. They want to hear about the Jesus who will give them all their carnal hearts desire, material possessions, wealth, comfort&#8230;all this life has to offer. That is NOT what the true Gospel says, in fact, it states just the opposite. . .<br />
&#8220;If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.&#8221; John 15:19<br />
&#8220;Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.&#8221; 2 Timothy 3:12<br />
&#8220;Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.&#8221; 1 John 2:15<br />
&#8220;So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.&#8221; Luke 14:33<br />
&#8220;Now godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain  we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.&#8221; 1 Timothy 6:6-9<br />
The word of God shoots holes in Osteen&#8217;s gospel of &#8216;your best life now&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact really is that the Gospel must be preached! people must know after listening to a minister of the Gospel that they are totally lost without Christ.

Jesus is not Gods best but Gods only Dor to the true and living God. This is not judging anyone, it is in Gods word, a plain as day.

On this I fear that Pastor Osteen comes short as he said that only God can judge the hearts of Muslims, etc.

This is the heart that God sees without Christ.

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

we must pray for boldness in him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact really is that the Gospel must be preached! people must know after listening to a minister of the Gospel that they are totally lost without Christ.</p>
<p>Jesus is not Gods best but Gods only Dor to the true and living God. This is not judging anyone, it is in Gods word, a plain as day.</p>
<p>On this I fear that Pastor Osteen comes short as he said that only God can judge the hearts of Muslims, etc.</p>
<p>This is the heart that God sees without Christ.</p>
<p>Jeremiah 17:9<br />
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?</p>
<p>we must pray for boldness in him!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What doctrine would you say is Joel Osteen then teaching?

So you would say that he was wrong in saying that obviously.

I am only refering to biblical doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What doctrine would you say is Joel Osteen then teaching?</p>
<p>So you would say that he was wrong in saying that obviously.</p>
<p>I am only refering to biblical doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talk so much about truth. Why don&#039;t you do a post about what &#039;truth&#039; is....Maybe then i can recognize it....since I&#039;m sooo immature...

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Henry, there are hundreds of posts and thousands of comments on here that answer what truth is. Take some time off of commenting and read.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk so much about truth. Why don&#8217;t you do a post about what &#8216;truth&#8217; is&#8230;.Maybe then i can recognize it&#8230;.since I&#8217;m sooo immature&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Henry, there are hundreds of posts and thousands of comments on here that answer what truth is. Take some time off of commenting and read.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Henry Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ARE insinuating that you are perfect when you reference John&#039;s teaching that people&#039;s father is the devil because they sin...YOU typed that...and unless you want to consider yourself a child of the devil, then one must assume that you don&#039;t sin.

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Or you just might be reading into something based on your own prejudices.&lt;/strong&gt;

The thing about the Pharisees was that they knew their stuff. They were well read, they studied their bibles, and they spoke in the synagogues...what&#039;s there to hate about that? They were righteous men of God who followed the law of Moses. They were holy....but they didn&#039;t embrace the spirit of God. It was all law..all letter...all black and white. Jesus hated their ways, not them and I don&#039;t hate them or you.

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Its good to know you dont hate me. I dont hate anyone either. I wont allow that to keep me from eternity with God. However, are we NOT supposed to study the scripture? We are not supposed to show ourselves approved UNTO GOD? We are not to hold fast to sound doctrine? We are not supposed to uphold God&#039;s Word as our authority? If not, what do you suggest we reference? You seem to be confusing God&#039;s Word with Moses&#039;s law. We are to love God&#039;s law. It is perfect, converting the soul. The pharisees didnt embrace &quot;the Spirit&quot; because it had not come yet. I do see your analogy although it doesnt seem to be applicable. I believe there is no proper interpretation or application of God&#039;s Word without the leading of his Spirit.&lt;/strong&gt;

I personally don&#039;t have an issue with Osteen or his teachings, and YES I disagree with you on this.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ARE insinuating that you are perfect when you reference John&#8217;s teaching that people&#8217;s father is the devil because they sin&#8230;YOU typed that&#8230;and unless you want to consider yourself a child of the devil, then one must assume that you don&#8217;t sin.</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Or you just might be reading into something based on your own prejudices.</strong></p>
<p>The thing about the Pharisees was that they knew their stuff. They were well read, they studied their bibles, and they spoke in the synagogues&#8230;what&#8217;s there to hate about that? They were righteous men of God who followed the law of Moses. They were holy&#8230;.but they didn&#8217;t embrace the spirit of God. It was all law..all letter&#8230;all black and white. Jesus hated their ways, not them and I don&#8217;t hate them or you.</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Its good to know you dont hate me. I dont hate anyone either. I wont allow that to keep me from eternity with God. However, are we NOT supposed to study the scripture? We are not supposed to show ourselves approved UNTO GOD? We are not to hold fast to sound doctrine? We are not supposed to uphold God&#8217;s Word as our authority? If not, what do you suggest we reference? You seem to be confusing God&#8217;s Word with Moses&#8217;s law. We are to love God&#8217;s law. It is perfect, converting the soul. The pharisees didnt embrace &#8220;the Spirit&#8221; because it had not come yet. I do see your analogy although it doesnt seem to be applicable. I believe there is no proper interpretation or application of God&#8217;s Word without the leading of his Spirit.</strong></p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t have an issue with Osteen or his teachings, and YES I disagree with you on this.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you DL. Since you think you know who I am...Let me tell you about who you are. You are one of those type of people who operates in pride whenever somoeone doesn&#039;t agree with what you say about the bible. and one of those people who want to appear as if they&#039;re perfect to the world, when the truth is they&#039;re not.

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Youre quite welcome. Truth is just...truth. There&#039;s not one instance on this blog, my numerous public appearances, extensive writings, personal relationships or private conversations where I have ever said, pretended or insinuated that I am perfect. As a matter of fact I have concluded perfection in holiness is defined as spiritual maturity. In that, I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; mature, I am&lt;em&gt; being&lt;/em&gt; matured and I &lt;em&gt;will be&lt;/em&gt; mature. Your &quot;pride&quot; reference is another instance of immaturity on your part. That&#039;s because you mislabel confidence in God&#039;s word for pride in oneself. That happens when lifting people up means more that lifting the Saviour up. Nevertheless, let&#039;s just talk facts Henry. There are innumerable instances of people disagreeing with me (just on this blog). I state my case, they state theirs. Sometimes it works itself out, sometimes it doesn&#039;t. You may be the next example of how that works. Disagreement is acceptable, false teachings are not.&lt;/strong&gt;


How hypocritical (and immature) is that to rake a minister of the gospel (Osteen) over the coals on a blog without offering a hand of  constructive help or instruction to get him back on track? Listen to what Jesus says about these type of people

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: From what I see plenty people including me have offered what we are supposed to offer: truth. That&#039;s what Joel Osteen needs. If you feel he is off track, then you let me know the outcome of your sit down conversation (or phone with him). If you dont feel he is off track, then go start a blog where you praise him every time he opens his mouth. Sound like a fair deal? You also confuse examining recognized Christian leader&#039;s (like Osteen) false teachings, not to mention compromise by God&#039;s Word with hypocrisy. Again this is another unfortunate result of spiritual immaturity.&lt;/strong&gt;

Matthew 23
Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. &quot;The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God&#039;s Law. You won&#039;t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don&#039;t live it. They don&#039;t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It&#039;s all spit-and-polish veneer.

&quot;Instead of giving you God&#039;s Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on God, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn&#039;t think of lifting a finger to help. Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called &#039;Doctor&#039; and &#039;Reverend.&#039;

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Thanks for another lesson (yawn) of the oft hated Pharisees. I wonder if you study any other groups mentioned in the bible. Have you checked out the Nicolatians? Jesus said he &quot;hated&quot; their deeds.&lt;/strong&gt;

Since you guess that I would go ballistic over John saying people&#039;s father is the devil because they sin...does that mean that you DON&#039;T sin??
&lt;strong&gt;
GCMW: There you go again rehashing that childish question. My answer is the same as before: its already been answered. If youre still unsure, read your bible and pray for revelation.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you DL. Since you think you know who I am&#8230;Let me tell you about who you are. You are one of those type of people who operates in pride whenever somoeone doesn&#8217;t agree with what you say about the bible. and one of those people who want to appear as if they&#8217;re perfect to the world, when the truth is they&#8217;re not.</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Youre quite welcome. Truth is just&#8230;truth. There&#8217;s not one instance on this blog, my numerous public appearances, extensive writings, personal relationships or private conversations where I have ever said, pretended or insinuated that I am perfect. As a matter of fact I have concluded perfection in holiness is defined as spiritual maturity. In that, I <em>am</em> mature, I am<em> being</em> matured and I <em>will be</em> mature. Your &#8220;pride&#8221; reference is another instance of immaturity on your part. That&#8217;s because you mislabel confidence in God&#8217;s word for pride in oneself. That happens when lifting people up means more that lifting the Saviour up. Nevertheless, let&#8217;s just talk facts Henry. There are innumerable instances of people disagreeing with me (just on this blog). I state my case, they state theirs. Sometimes it works itself out, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t. You may be the next example of how that works. Disagreement is acceptable, false teachings are not.</strong></p>
<p>How hypocritical (and immature) is that to rake a minister of the gospel (Osteen) over the coals on a blog without offering a hand of  constructive help or instruction to get him back on track? Listen to what Jesus says about these type of people</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: From what I see plenty people including me have offered what we are supposed to offer: truth. That&#8217;s what Joel Osteen needs. If you feel he is off track, then you let me know the outcome of your sit down conversation (or phone with him). If you dont feel he is off track, then go start a blog where you praise him every time he opens his mouth. Sound like a fair deal? You also confuse examining recognized Christian leader&#8217;s (like Osteen) false teachings, not to mention compromise by God&#8217;s Word with hypocrisy. Again this is another unfortunate result of spiritual immaturity.</strong></p>
<p>Matthew 23<br />
Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. &#8220;The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God&#8217;s Law. You won&#8217;t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don&#8217;t live it. They don&#8217;t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It&#8217;s all spit-and-polish veneer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead of giving you God&#8217;s Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on God, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn&#8217;t think of lifting a finger to help. Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called &#8216;Doctor&#8217; and &#8216;Reverend.&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Thanks for another lesson (yawn) of the oft hated Pharisees. I wonder if you study any other groups mentioned in the bible. Have you checked out the Nicolatians? Jesus said he &#8220;hated&#8221; their deeds.</strong></p>
<p>Since you guess that I would go ballistic over John saying people&#8217;s father is the devil because they sin&#8230;does that mean that you DON&#8217;T sin??<br />
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GCMW: There you go again rehashing that childish question. My answer is the same as before: its already been answered. If youre still unsure, read your bible and pray for revelation.</strong></p>
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