Comments on: Osteen: "my message is not about doctrine"

By: charzetta3

charzetta3 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:59:09 +0000

Lyn,

This video was the bomb !!!!! Completely enjoyed it !!!!

By: spidey

spidey — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:54:46 +0000

what? that doesn’t make sense, jesus was the fulfilling of the law. he said to the young ruler that the only thing he lacked was selling all his stuff and following him-after he had doen the commandments all his life. nbowhere does it say that you’re just supposed to be “motivational” in the Word of God, the unadulterated one that is. the scriptures above testify of that truth.

By: Paul N

Paul N — Wed, 13 May 2009 14:15:31 +0000

I agree with you Elder!

By: elder jimmy

elder jimmy — Wed, 13 May 2009 00:16:33 +0000

Your assumptions about my concerns of Osteen’s lack of message say waaay more about you than I. You attempt to correct “judging” by judging others yourself? You really have no real knowledge as to what I might say about Osteen’s church if he corrected his unbalanced teaching. In fact, your OWN words echo a Pharisaical tone; you have judged based on your suppostion. We don’t adhere to your thoughts about Osteen’s doctrine so then WE are Pharisees? I don’t have a problem with large churches. I have a problem with churches that deceive people with watered down messages and insufficent teaching. Most admonitions here are for balance. There is something in between the message that Osteen brings and the “lawful, fussy, condemning, finger pointing, hellfire and brimstone” message you assume I/we feel essential to the gospel message.

The fact that you pose to me a question that should certainly already be clear in your mind since the gospels; Christ own words and the NT epistles makes the answer to your question obvious to a believer, is not worth the effort my hands need to make to give a real answer.

Incidentally, Jesus did once thin His crowd out with a hard word about His message. So He understood that the crowds do not automatically mean that all of them are disciples. You state that you feel that we critique Osteen simply because he has a large church. You have no idea as to what my motivations are beyond what I have disclosed. I am others are also miserable also as you have stated.
Real misery is thinking you know the truth and not be aware that you don’t know that you don’t know.

By: lyn

lyn — Tue, 12 May 2009 19:34:22 +0000

Henry
Does Osteen preach on the command to repent? Does he speak of how wicked and vile we all are? Does he mention what comes out of our own hearts – - murder, sexual immorality, hate, jealousy, greed, selfishness, arrogance, idolatry, etc.?
Has he said we are sinners without hope apart from the Lord Jesus Christ? Does he expound on the new birth?

Have you been born from above Henry? Has God crushed you under the weight of your sins…bringing you to Godly sorrow which leads to repentance? Have you cried out, ‘O God have mercy on me!’ Are you a new creation in Christ, being changed from the INSIDE OUT? Only God can give us a new heart and put His Spirit within us {please read Ezekiel 36:26.27}.
Too many today are professing Christ with their mouths, yet their hearts remained unchanged. They continue living just as they did before they professed Christ. That is because men like Osteen FAIL to preach the whole counsel, especially the doctrine of regeneration.
” Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.” 2 Cor. 5:17
“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. ” Gal. 6:15
The ‘new creation’ is evidence of the power of God as He re-births a lost, wicked sinner into a ‘new creation’. This new creature no longer practices habitual sin. The rest of his/her life will be spent under the surgical ‘knife’ of the Great Physician as He cuts away sin in the life of His child. Obvious sins will be shed right away, others which are embedded a little deeper will come out as the new believer studies the word of God.

Preaching His truth does not include picking and choosing what you want to say, or shying away for fear of not ‘filling up’ your church. The truth of God’s word is offensive and will NOT fill up a church, but instead, empty it. Lost sinners do not want to hear how sinful they are. They want to hear about the Jesus who will give them all their carnal hearts desire, material possessions, wealth, comfort…all this life has to offer. That is NOT what the true Gospel says, in fact, it states just the opposite. . .
“If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.” John 15:19
“Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.” 2 Timothy 3:12
“Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” 1 John 2:15
“So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.” Luke 14:33
“Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.” 1 Timothy 6:6-9
The word of God shoots holes in Osteen’s gospel of ‘your best life now’.

By: Paul N

Paul N — Tue, 12 May 2009 17:08:37 +0000

Fact really is that the Gospel must be preached! people must know after listening to a minister of the Gospel that they are totally lost without Christ.

Jesus is not Gods best but Gods only Dor to the true and living God. This is not judging anyone, it is in Gods word, a plain as day.

On this I fear that Pastor Osteen comes short as he said that only God can judge the hearts of Muslims, etc.

This is the heart that God sees without Christ.

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

we must pray for boldness in him!