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		<title>By: Sharron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Sadie this comment is to encourage you......God hears your cry for help about your struggle. A broken spirit and a contrite heart  he will not despise. God is truly a God of wrath, judgement and LOVE! Jesus primary purpose for coming was to SAVE his people from their SIN! The Holy Ghost job is to lead us into all TRUTH and to do that it takes conviction to know that we have violated that TRUTH. Let&#039;s stop trying to do the Holy Ghost job because none of us have the credentials. WE as so called Saints are to draw others not by degrading them or pointing out all their faults. We have no right to do that.....Big Sadie ...God is Able to deliver u just as he delivered the men out of the fiery furnace...be encouraged to keep seeking your deliverance. Those of us that know how to put heat (prayer) on any situation , lets do our part!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Sadie this comment is to encourage you&#8230;&#8230;God hears your cry for help about your struggle. A broken spirit and a contrite heart  he will not despise. God is truly a God of wrath, judgement and LOVE! Jesus primary purpose for coming was to SAVE his people from their SIN! The Holy Ghost job is to lead us into all TRUTH and to do that it takes conviction to know that we have violated that TRUTH. Let&#8217;s stop trying to do the Holy Ghost job because none of us have the credentials. WE as so called Saints are to draw others not by degrading them or pointing out all their faults. We have no right to do that&#8230;..Big Sadie &#8230;God is Able to deliver u just as he delivered the men out of the fiery furnace&#8230;be encouraged to keep seeking your deliverance. Those of us that know how to put heat (prayer) on any situation , lets do our part!</p>
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		<title>By: 404momi</title>
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		<dc:creator>404momi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider me shocked and amazed.</description>
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		<title>By: fourpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/2483/good-word-from-kirk-franklin/comment-page-#comment-6583</link>
		<dc:creator>fourpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Marylin&#039;s comment below as to why CeCe&#039;s music went into the hopper. I cannot in good faith worship the Lord of Glory with someone like that. These are people who think that our Lord Jesus Christ--the Lor of Glory, the One who bought my pardon with his blood--shed His precious blood and took upon Himself the wrath of Almighty God the Father so that we could have a comfortable life and they think of the cross as nothing more than an ATM.

And how did Hilliard get the money to do give CeCe that Rolls? By fleecing his flock. The same way he managed to raise enough cash to pay the taxes so that Junie B (Juanita Bynum) wouldn&#039;t lose her modest 30,000 square foot home.
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GCMW: Not to pile on CeCe, but I had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/optruv.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own reasons&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/pr031704.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;letting go&lt;/a&gt; of her music. At least not purchasing it.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Marylin&#8217;s comment below as to why CeCe&#8217;s music went into the hopper. I cannot in good faith worship the Lord of Glory with someone like that. These are people who think that our Lord Jesus Christ&#8211;the Lor of Glory, the One who bought my pardon with his blood&#8211;shed His precious blood and took upon Himself the wrath of Almighty God the Father so that we could have a comfortable life and they think of the cross as nothing more than an ATM.</p>
<p>And how did Hilliard get the money to do give CeCe that Rolls? By fleecing his flock. The same way he managed to raise enough cash to pay the taxes so that Junie B (Juanita Bynum) wouldn&#8217;t lose her modest 30,000 square foot home.<br />
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GCMW: Not to pile on CeCe, but I had <a href="http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/optruv.html" rel="nofollow">my own reasons</a> for <a href="http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/pr031704.html" rel="nofollow">letting go</a> of her music. At least not purchasing it.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont want to wade into the deeper disagreement, but I just wanna echo, that music is not supposed to draw. That&#039;s something we created. Jesus said lift him up and he will draw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont want to wade into the deeper disagreement, but I just wanna echo, that music is not supposed to draw. That&#8217;s something we created. Jesus said lift him up and he will draw.</p>
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		<title>By: ReRe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReRe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 05:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proverbs28nine,

I also want to let you know that I agree with you 100%!  Praise God for giving you that word and for proclaiming it like you did.  I&#039;m sure a lot of Christians do truly love God, but we need to learn how to serve Him and worship Him correctly.   God is a holy god.  If He instructed the OT Israelites on how he wanted them to worship Him, how much more does He require from us that have the Spirit within us!  The examples you gave above were plain and true.  I also remember on of Min. Craige&#039;s messages on Hip Hop when he gave the example of David playing the music and how it soothed Saul.  No lyrics there, either.

Satan was God&#039;s minister of music.  He was the one that ushered in the presence of God with music.  He still has that gift, but is certainly being used for evil now.  I was reading HP&#039;s comment above about the swearing, drinking, smoking in lyrics.  If that is the only way we judge music as secular, the devil surely has us where he wants us!  It doesn&#039;t take discernment to recognize that this kind of music is ungodly.  We&#039;re talking about the music that he has so skillfully and wickedly disguised.  The kind of music that can get you to praise him and you not even know it!  (Ooh, that gives me chills!)  The kind that only God can reveal to us.  His word says that he can come as an angel of light!

I have a website you all can check out
www.goodfight.org.  Be prayerful before you enter the site and watch the expose&#039;s.  Continue the good fight.  God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proverbs28nine,</p>
<p>I also want to let you know that I agree with you 100%!  Praise God for giving you that word and for proclaiming it like you did.  I&#8217;m sure a lot of Christians do truly love God, but we need to learn how to serve Him and worship Him correctly.   God is a holy god.  If He instructed the OT Israelites on how he wanted them to worship Him, how much more does He require from us that have the Spirit within us!  The examples you gave above were plain and true.  I also remember on of Min. Craige&#8217;s messages on Hip Hop when he gave the example of David playing the music and how it soothed Saul.  No lyrics there, either.</p>
<p>Satan was God&#8217;s minister of music.  He was the one that ushered in the presence of God with music.  He still has that gift, but is certainly being used for evil now.  I was reading HP&#8217;s comment above about the swearing, drinking, smoking in lyrics.  If that is the only way we judge music as secular, the devil surely has us where he wants us!  It doesn&#8217;t take discernment to recognize that this kind of music is ungodly.  We&#8217;re talking about the music that he has so skillfully and wickedly disguised.  The kind of music that can get you to praise him and you not even know it!  (Ooh, that gives me chills!)  The kind that only God can reveal to us.  His word says that he can come as an angel of light!</p>
<p>I have a website you all can check out<br />
<a href="http://www.goodfight.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodfight.org</a>.  Be prayerful before you enter the site and watch the expose&#8217;s.  Continue the good fight.  God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proverbs28nine:

I am in total agreement with your insightful explanation on the secular vs spiritual songs. You hit the nail on the head when illustrating the noise Moses heard when he came from the mountain top. What accompanied this music as noise was the worshipping of the “golden calf”. AMAZING the truth God reveals in His word.

MUSIC is more than lyrics, despite with all these praise and worship leaders tell us and do. Simply put in &quot;Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; &quot; The “melody” is the emphasis here.

Many put a lot of the emphasis on the “lyrics”. And really, if you listen to the lyrics in many of these songs (sung by artists like Yolanda Adams, Kirk Franklin, the Winans with their pop and R&amp;B flavor), much of the lyrics leans more to the praise of men and his goodness and his acceptance to the call of God. The words are tilted to be made personal for men, rather that the reverence in worship for God and who He is and what He does.

Believe it or not, there are many psalms and the thousands of the proven hymns and spiritual songs that are being produced today by godly men and women and groups where the reverence for God and His work are emphasized. It’s sad though that many are ignorant to the simple meaning of the verse in
Col 3:16 &quot;Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. &quot;

I had to respond to thank you for your insight and discernment. The devil has deceived many into believing that as long as the lyrics are okay, the music must be from God. I contend (like you) this to be a BIG LIE!!! Keep believing the truth as you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proverbs28nine:</p>
<p>I am in total agreement with your insightful explanation on the secular vs spiritual songs. You hit the nail on the head when illustrating the noise Moses heard when he came from the mountain top. What accompanied this music as noise was the worshipping of the “golden calf”. AMAZING the truth God reveals in His word.</p>
<p>MUSIC is more than lyrics, despite with all these praise and worship leaders tell us and do. Simply put in &#8220;Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; &#8221; The “melody” is the emphasis here.</p>
<p>Many put a lot of the emphasis on the “lyrics”. And really, if you listen to the lyrics in many of these songs (sung by artists like Yolanda Adams, Kirk Franklin, the Winans with their pop and R&amp;B flavor), much of the lyrics leans more to the praise of men and his goodness and his acceptance to the call of God. The words are tilted to be made personal for men, rather that the reverence in worship for God and who He is and what He does.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, there are many psalms and the thousands of the proven hymns and spiritual songs that are being produced today by godly men and women and groups where the reverence for God and His work are emphasized. It’s sad though that many are ignorant to the simple meaning of the verse in<br />
Col 3:16 &#8220;Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. &#8221;</p>
<p>I had to respond to thank you for your insight and discernment. The devil has deceived many into believing that as long as the lyrics are okay, the music must be from God. I contend (like you) this to be a BIG LIE!!! Keep believing the truth as you do.</p>
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