Comments on: The homosexual demon question

By: D. Nicole

D. Nicole — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:12:35 +0000

Well, that was definitely one of the creepiest things I have ever seen. I couldn’t help but wonder what was going through the young man’s mind – I’m convinced he was either playing along because he didn’t know what else to do or just so physically tired from the whole production that he was bordering on unconsciousness. I was glad though when the female “exorcist” made everyone be quiet – the music was so out of place and weird it was almost disorienting.

I find it odd that a “homosexual demon” would manifest by throwing its host around on the floor, as opposed to trying to have sex with one of the men in the room. The whole thing looks fake and really scary from where I’m sitting. Reminds me of the lady at my church growing up who would always demonstrate that she had “caught the holy ghost” by walking around laughing hysterically in this deranged voice which would creep me, the other children and I’m sure some of the adults out. Sorry, but God isn’t spooky like that.

By: Saved Mom

Saved Mom — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:07:21 +0000

I do believe that there are spirits for whatever sin one maybe entangled in (legion). I’ve been in a few services just like the one shown above, and in a couple of those, the demon actually spoke. One of the experiences that I witness had to do with a teenager whom had been molested. In the process of the praying, the demon spoke these words in its voice, “I love men and women, this body (speaking of the teenagers body) belongs to me and I am not coming out.” Sad to say that the demon spoke some truth and it didn’t come out that night.

I’ve read a few comments and agree with some. I’ve been around for quite a while and I’ve never actually seen a demon casted out. It discourages me to some degree to continue to see this go on with no victorious outcome. There maybe some who are successful in casting the spirit(s) out, but for others, why does it take a whole church service for it to happen? Why can’t we just speak to the demon and tell it to leave and it obey the command? Are we as christians not fasting and praying like we should be? If we as saved, sanctified, holyghost filled saints have it like we should, some sort of sign of the power that we receive after the holyghost should be present. I believe a lot of us (christians/saints) have lost what we once had at the beginning of our walk with Christ. Some people are walking by knowledge and not by faith.

I often look back and ask myself the question, “where was my holyghost power at that time.” I can come up with excuse after excuse but there is none. The power of the Lord is given to whomever is willing to live the life and receive whatever he has for us. So to all of us replying, if the opportunity was given to us to cast out any spirit (you have to remember that there is more than one–legion)would we be able to be successful with the power of the Lord? Or would we be the ones running from the demon?

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By: Carlos

Carlos — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:33:21 +0000

I have Craige Lewis’ DVD set, THE TRUTH BEHIND HIP HOP, and I know that he says homosexuality is a demon that needs to be cast out (I think he says this in part 3). But I’ve also seen online testimonies that had nothing to do with demons and it was just a matter of God changing their desires and having self-control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Kp6XP5lFU

casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled. -2 Cor. 10.5-6

But I also read this guy’s testimony from Australia (he thought he was born gay but got delivered) and he said that bisexuals, lesbians and gays all have the same demon but some have a harder grip on the person than others:

christianityandhomosexuality.com

So which one is it? All these people seem very sincere and look like God has really touched their lives and delivered them, but someone’s theology is inconsistent/wrong. Is there a homosexual demon? Or is it the spirit of Lust and/or the natural, perverted wickedness of all human beings?

Psalm 58
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb;
These who speak lies go astray from birth.

Genesis 8
21 The LORD smelled the soothing aroma; and the LORD said to Himself, “I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of man’s heart is evil from his youth; and I will never again destroy every living thing, as I have done.

Romans 3
10 as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;
11 no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”

By: journeytaker

journeytaker — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:51:24 +0000

Something is just wrong with the way this is done period. I mean from the way the “preacher is speaking” to how the man is “holding” this young man. These people seem so jumpy and “bug eyed” as if this is spooking them out. The gloves have me baffled too, I don’t remember ever seeing anyone use gloves when casting out a demon. I have seen demons cast out, but not like this before. NO one should have to go through all of this and throw up to prove that a demon is being cast out.

There is no biblical model for what they are doing in this video. She is using the name of Jesus as a mantra rather than focusing on HIs finished work on the cross. HIs blood has delivered us all, and will continue that sanctification process. She has made a spectacle of what should be a wonderful and glorious experience of true deliverance. I know what the genuine is like, and this is NOT it.

I have seen some deliverances that as the demon was leaving the person looked and sounded non human, but there was no “holy water” or throwing up involved. This is just wrong on soooooo many levels!

I do not see a homosexual demon in scripture, but I do see unclean spirits mentioned. Unclean spirits will manifest themselves many ways, and to fool ourselves into thinking that they prefer one type of uncleanness over another is exactly what satan wants us to get bogged down in.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:32:34 +0000

I have been apart of the pentecostal church all my life. I am african american having had attended both HBCU’s for undergrad and grad. After watchimg this video I can truly say that black people are so silly and do more damage than help. Why are they doing this child like this. Many leaders have no understanding of the bible and handle it wrong. NOw when that boy growns up filled with hurt and angry with the balcj church this video explains why. Reading some of these comments shows people don’t have any understanding of scripture.

GCMW: Jonathan, feel free to correct what ever misunderstanding of the scriptures you see in the comments. I’m very interested in reading your perspective. Perhaps I’m missing something, but the young man looks “grown” to me. Also, are you saying that since you attended “both HBCU’s for undergrad and grad” that has qualified you biblically?

By: Delivered and Healed

Delivered and Healed — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:12:48 +0000

Lavari that is a good point: “If you’re struggling with pornography, a spirit may just come hang out with you to encourage you to stay in pornography. Is it then a pornography demon (that’s actually funny)?”

It is funny in that there is no such demon ever mentioned in the bible but it would fall under perversion! I think that we need to research that spirit cause it is deep from sex to lying…the spirit of perversion can cover homosexuality as well. I am somewhat confused because, murder is in the commandments and we should not do it but if I murder someone is that the spirit of murder? If I have sex out of wedlock (hurry lord and send my wife is that a perverted spirit? Also, we see in the gospels Jesus casting out spirits that governed sickness and diseace but in the letters no such a thing…Was the young man that took his fathers wife in 1 Corinth 5 demon possessed? Demons being cast out in the letters are rare in any at all…why is that?

By: Delivered and Healed

Delivered and Healed — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:53:54 +0000

This was straightway deliverance and he did not cough and I did not lay hands (cause we are not to do that suddenly! Is this how deliverance is suppose to be? And the bible does not talk about deliverance being a process ALL of the time…GMCW please bring clarity

BTW–I am free and delivered moslestation and being sexually abused…

By: Delivered and Healed

Delivered and Healed — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:50:57 +0000

I am confused and for many years thought that I was demon (gay) possessed. But when I look at videos and think about it…it just seems all WRONG. When you read about Jesus and the Apostles, demons went out straightway or in that same hour (we have the same hour but nothing goes out straightway). Jesus also said we are to be doing greater works but it seems that the works we do is the same works Jesus did and that is somewhat iffy! Remember Peter’s shadow healed a man…but we get crazy deliverance like in the video (I do believe something happened cause he shook and was somewhat not HIMSELF) where you cough, throwup, and foam at the mouth. Then it takes forever for it to GO away…Either we have to evaluate the problem and GO back to GOD and stop relying on the GIFTINGS. I remember as a young one in the gospel, I was talking to a youth and as I talked with him, he was trying to talk like everything was fine but I noticed down in my spirit that something was wrong; what I noticed was the spirit of fear and depression. I rebuked it in the name of JESUS and immediately it was CAST out.

By: Lavrai

Lavrai — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:13:30 +0000

Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases…

Luke 10: 17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”

18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying, Mark. This passage to me shows that as GOD had given Jesus authority to do all things on earth (Matt 28:18 and John 17:1-2, for example), so too has Jesus given us the authority over spirits — because we are saved/belong to HIM (i.e., “our names are written in heaven”).

When Jesus tells Peter in Matt 1619: .. “whatever you bind on earth will bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” — Is HE really only speaking to Peter?

GOD’s power is not dependent on us, like HIS existence is not dependent on whether we acknowledge HIM or not. But these passages clearly show that HE has given us authority and power over demons/spirits.. in the name of Jesus (as the disciples re-affirmed when they returned to the Christ). The ultimate authority, the ultimate power is from GOD, of course, and we can do nothing without HIM.

But we don’t have to wait around weeping for the LORD to move… we can get up and act under the authority HE has given us. As Paul did with the young girl with the spirit of divination. He didn’t stop and pray to GOD first, he acted — spoke with authority in the name of Jesus and the spirit had to flee.

And who preached the Good News to cast out a demon? As far as Christ Jesus shows us in the Holy Bible, commanding/ordering the demon out under HIS authority is what works.

Don’t you think Satan knows the Gospel, considering he quoted Scripture to Jesus Christ during the temptation and has many a false teachers twisting the Good News from the pulpit? Don’t you think seducing spirits that have folks believing all kinds of non-Biblical lies (like homosexuality is clean, for example) know the Bible and the Gospel?