Comments on: Surveying COGIC’s justice system http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Lafe http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8181 Lafe Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:22:47 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8181 Yes, Mercedes...it is a sin of omission. Regretably, too many "saints" want to find a church home to rest in and not rock the boat. The sense of fellowship is so strong to many that they will overlook glaring error and sin because they want a place that they can call their "church home". That is too sad that they will turn a blind eye to evil in the camp because they want someone to "like them" and they want to feel accepted. Both are not Biblical concepts for fellowship but rather is a desire of the flesh to be with others and even at the expense of accommodating sin. That is not of the Holy Spirit and until we mature and understand that fellowship with God is the only thing you need and that He alone can keep you, we will continue to have their exposes of sin in the camp because the "saints" of God will not take a stand and say NO!...because they value the applause and smiles of men and women more than person conscience and integrity! You do not need a spiritual renegade approving you as a person or as a child of God. You do not need the "right hand of fellowship" in order to be in God's kingdom. You do not need the bishop or the pastor to smile upon you and grant you favor. God does that! So, when evil is in the camp...what now is your excuse for turning a blind eye and walking away? You certainly are not pleasing God but man. Yes, Mercedes…it is a sin of omission. Regretably, too many “saints” want to find a church home to rest in and not rock the boat. The sense of fellowship is so strong to many that they will overlook glaring error and sin because they want a place that they can call their “church home”.
That is too sad that they will turn a blind eye to evil in the camp because they want someone to “like them” and they want to
feel accepted. Both are not Biblical concepts for fellowship but rather is a desire of the flesh to be with others and even at the expense of accommodating sin. That is not of the Holy Spirit and until we mature and understand that fellowship with God is the only thing you need and that He alone can keep you, we will continue to have their exposes of sin in the camp because the “saints” of God will not take a stand and say NO!…because they value the applause and smiles of men and women more than person conscience and integrity!
You do not need a spiritual renegade approving you as a person or as a child of God. You do not need the “right hand of fellowship”
in order to be in God’s kingdom.
You do not need the bishop or the pastor to smile upon you and grant you favor. God does that! So, when evil is in the camp…what now is your excuse for turning a blind eye and walking away? You certainly are not pleasing God but man.

]]> By: Mercedes http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8131 Mercedes Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:11:30 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8131 Isn't it a sin for somebody in the assembly to know that somebody is being molested but won't say anything? Isn't there something about being a stumbling block to someone? I am so tired of these people not standing up to these so called leaders. Isn’t it a sin for somebody in the assembly to know that somebody is being molested but won’t say anything? Isn’t there something about being a stumbling block to someone? I am so tired of these people not standing up to these so called leaders.

]]> By: Lafe http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8106 Lafe Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:00:56 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8106 People: The fact that the COGIC website would delete comments that are not in their best interest shows that they are about image and public relations. Cares and concerns about the molested or abused is secondary. Regrettably, there is not a Court TV series on this Sherman Allen trial. The world needs to see this perp and hear from the actual witnesses. I have no patience with these man made doctrines and titles and protocols which have the effect of covering up wrongdoing and yet on Sundays these same charlatans will be the loudest praising God in the sanctuary! Judgement begins at the house of God and COGIC needs a major spanking and house cleaning and repentance. When churches become crusty with the sins of the flesh and those sins are not corrected by those who have the job of overseer, it is time for that entity to crumble. People who are in these assemblies and you know that abuse is happening, be it against a fellow believer or financial shenanigans or serious doctrinal error, you need to come out and find another place of fellowship and get away from that religious spirit that will corrupt you since you are being warned but yet you delay because you want the fellowship of the saints. God can provide fellowship anywhere but especially with Him. You do not need fellowship to maintain your salvation. Stay attached to the Head and the body will thrive! People: The fact that the COGIC website would delete comments that are not in their best interest shows that they are about image and public relations. Cares and concerns about the molested or abused is secondary.
Regrettably, there is not a Court TV series on this Sherman Allen trial. The world needs to see this perp and hear from the actual
witnesses.
I have no patience with these man made doctrines and titles and
protocols which have the effect of covering up wrongdoing and yet on Sundays these same charlatans will be the loudest praising God in the sanctuary!
Judgement begins at the house of God and COGIC needs a major spanking and house cleaning and repentance.
When churches become crusty with the sins of the flesh and those sins are not corrected by those who have the job of overseer, it is time for that entity to crumble.
People who are in these assemblies and you know that abuse is happening, be it against a fellow believer or financial shenanigans or serious doctrinal error, you need to come out and find another place of fellowship and get away from that religious
spirit that will corrupt you since you are being warned but yet you delay because you want the fellowship of the saints. God can provide fellowship anywhere but especially with Him. You do not need fellowship to maintain your salvation. Stay attached to the Head and the body will thrive!

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8066 gcmwatch Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:25:14 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8066 Bishop Blake did the same thing with the UDIHR situation. Actions without prior approval of the General Assembly. That's why when we raised this issue, he basically went and retroactively got approval of the board and assembly. Its very interesting that when Chandler Owens said that he had that power, Blake went to court to testify against it. But now, he's doing the same thing. In fact, he was adamant that the PB did not have that type of power. Re the Investigative Department, from what I have read this seems to be is another sham (sorry have to be honest) church junket set up to obfuscate and hinder real discovery when criminal activity occurs. Like I said, there was no external announcement so it reminded me of a church CIA covert-type. So much for transparency and integrity. Bishop Blake did the same thing with the UDIHR situation. Actions without prior approval of the General Assembly. That’s why when we raised this issue, he basically went and retroactively got approval of the board and assembly. Its very interesting that when Chandler Owens said that he had that power, Blake went to court to testify against it. But now, he’s doing the same thing. In fact, he was adamant that the PB did not have that type of power.

Re the Investigative Department, from what I have read this seems to be is another sham (sorry have to be honest) church junket set up to obfuscate and hinder real discovery when criminal activity occurs.

Like I said, there was no external announcement so it reminded me of a church CIA covert-type.

So much for transparency and integrity.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8065 gcmwatch Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:17:37 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8065 Pastor Burnett, which comment and was this addressed to a specific person? Pastor Burnett, which comment and was this addressed to a specific person?

]]> By: Pastor Burnett http://www.gcmwatch.com/2985/cogics-justice-system/comment-page-1#comment-8063 Pastor Burnett Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:11:09 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=2985#comment-8063 I know that comment doesn't address the abuse issue specifically, I think you're doing an excellent job in that regard...I focus on the mishandling of all of this situations and sins from the top. It's traggic and it only seems to be more obfuscation. I know that comment doesn’t address the abuse issue specifically, I think you’re doing an excellent job in that regard…I focus on the mishandling of all of this situations and sins from the top. It’s traggic and it only seems to be more obfuscation.

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