Comments on: Under oath, COGIC legal counsel Enoch Perry makes stunning admissions http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:10:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Pastor Burnett http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8500 Pastor Burnett Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:59:07 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8500 Gcmwatch, I got a little something on the way. Gcmwatch,

I got a little something on the way.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8373 gcmwatch Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:28:35 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8373 Supt Burnett, I think in the deposition Perry was referring to something he SAID he wrote or co-wrote in 2002. But that being said, it is VERY interesting that this sexual abuse policy has been incognito all this time until you sent in your proposal (and we published these articles). And then viola! cogic.com posts these cut and paste pirated articles which looked a lot like the information you sent them. Which of course they NEVER acknowledged. Hope you blog about that. Whatever they are attempting to conceal, it must be pretty substantial to stoop to this level of dishonesty. Supt Burnett, I think in the deposition Perry was referring to something he SAID he wrote or co-wrote in 2002. But that being said, it is VERY interesting that this sexual abuse policy has been incognito all this time until you sent in your proposal (and we published these articles). And then viola! cogic.com posts these cut and paste pirated articles which looked a lot like the information you sent them.

Which of course they NEVER acknowledged.

Hope you blog about that. Whatever they are attempting to conceal, it must be pretty substantial to stoop to this level of dishonesty.

]]> By: Pastor Burnett http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8372 Pastor Burnett Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:20:35 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8372 Vrr, Thanks for the encouragement. You said: <i>Enoch Perry author many of these polices but yet COGIC isn’t following their own procedures.</i> Enoch hasn't authored anything! Enoch has cut and pasted info from other sources and I personally sent his office a packet regarding how to resolve these problems and never received a response in any form other than his posts "mysteriously" appearing. The bible says this: <b>Prov. 28:13</b>~<i>"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy."</i> The New Living Translation spells it out a little more exactingly: <b>Prov. 28:13</b> ~ <i>"People who cover over their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and forsake them, <b>they will receive mercy</b>."</i> If these Saints want mercy all they need do is repent and say they've messed this thing up and it needs to be overhauled. That's all. Some would rather die with things like they are rather than switch and assume that God is going to make it all right in spite of the wishes of the people. HE can do anything but he honors free-will and many of these are freely choosing corruption at the expense of the Saints. That's the sad part. When you get so overwhelmed with your sin until all you know is, "How many members you got doc?" there's something wrong! This is one preacher that IS NOT impressed by that mess in the least bit. Vrr,

Thanks for the encouragement. You said: Enoch Perry author many of these polices but yet COGIC isn’t following their own procedures.

Enoch hasn’t authored anything! Enoch has cut and pasted info from other sources and I personally sent his office a packet regarding how to resolve these problems and never received a response in any form other than his posts “mysteriously” appearing.

The bible says this:

Prov. 28:13~“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.”

The New Living Translation spells it out a little more exactingly:

Prov. 28:13 ~ “People who cover over their sins will not prosper. But if they confess and forsake them, they will receive mercy.”

If these Saints want mercy all they need do is repent and say they’ve messed this thing up and it needs to be overhauled. That’s all. Some would rather die with things like they are rather than switch and assume that God is going to make it all right in spite of the wishes of the people. HE can do anything but he honors free-will and many of these are freely choosing corruption at the expense of the Saints.

That’s the sad part. When you get so overwhelmed with your sin until all you know is, “How many members you got doc?” there’s something wrong! This is one preacher that IS NOT impressed by that mess in the least bit.

]]> By: vrr http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8341 vrr Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:25:17 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8341 Supt Burnett, your words are a great encouragement. It’s time for the saints in COGIC to open their eyes and see beyond these smoke screens and distractions like DL says. Enoch Perry evasive answers and stubbornness shows in his deposition, and in my opinion he did COGIC no justice, but pretty much sealed their fate in this case of Sherman Allen. The lawyers for the plaintiffs will have a field day with COGIC on trial next month, which is less then a month away. It amazes me an organization such as COGIC has such time to organize all these conferences per year such as the current Pastor/Elders Conference in Orlando at the 5 star Ritz Carlton per year, but yet they don’t have solid policies in place regarding sexual misconduct, and yes, I’ve even asked myself what is “the National Sexual Misconduct Committee?” Enoch Perry author many of these polices but yet COGIC isn’t following their own procedures. I know a thing or two about Gerald Harris, he’s preached at Allen church several years ago and Allen has preached at Gerald Harris’s church in Gilroy, California as well several years back. So doesn’t that sound like a conflict of interest on COGIC parts? How do you assigned a friend of Allen’s to be on committee that is suppose to investigate sexual misconduct allegations against him? Anyways, the truth is coming out everyday and hopefully this will stop all the cover-ups in COGIC. Supt Burnett, your words are a great encouragement. It’s time for the saints in COGIC to open their eyes and see beyond these smoke screens and distractions like DL says. Enoch Perry evasive answers and stubbornness shows in his deposition, and in my opinion he did COGIC no justice, but pretty much sealed their fate in this case of Sherman Allen. The lawyers for the plaintiffs will have a field day with COGIC on trial next month, which is less then a month away.
It amazes me an organization such as COGIC has such time to organize all these conferences per year such as the current Pastor/Elders Conference in Orlando at the 5 star Ritz Carlton per year, but yet they don’t have solid policies in place regarding sexual misconduct, and yes, I’ve even asked myself what is “the National Sexual Misconduct Committee?” Enoch Perry author many of these polices but yet COGIC isn’t following their own procedures. I know a thing or two about Gerald Harris, he’s preached at Allen church several years ago and Allen has preached at Gerald Harris’s church in Gilroy, California as well several years back. So doesn’t that sound like a conflict of interest on COGIC parts? How do you assigned a friend of Allen’s to be on committee that is suppose to investigate sexual misconduct allegations against him? Anyways, the truth is coming out everyday and hopefully this will stop all the cover-ups in COGIC.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8340 gcmwatch Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:03:49 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8340 Thanks for your candor Supt Burnett. COGIC is headed for a sad, sad day. And its tragic because when God reveals your sins, you should not go into cover, conceal and deception mode, but repentance. I feel all the "new" programs and events (including the move to STL) set up by the PB are just distractions to keep the members from knowing what is going on. Yet, God is not fooled. Bishop Blake should take a cue from the king of Nineveh and call for repentance. Thanks for your candor Supt Burnett. COGIC is headed for a sad, sad day. And its tragic because when God reveals your sins, you should not go into cover, conceal and deception mode, but repentance.

I feel all the “new” programs and events (including the move to STL) set up by the PB are just distractions to keep the members from knowing what is going on.

Yet, God is not fooled. Bishop Blake should take a cue from the king of Nineveh and call for repentance.

]]> By: Pastor Burnett http://www.gcmwatch.com/3066/eperry-deposition/comment-page-1#comment-8339 Pastor Burnett Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:25:52 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3066#comment-8339 Elder, I'm sorry I've been somewhat busy and not able to chime in on this. THIS IS A MESS! Elder Perry OUGHT to be ashamed of himself! In no short sense. This is ridiculous. WHAT is a "National Sexual Misconduct Cmte" and who is Melvin Williams and Gerald Harris? WHAT, WHAT WHAT??? I've been a part of this organization for almost 30 years and have never been made aware of such a committee. In addition this violates any and all structure of an investigative committee as you point out. To Perry and designated "rag" watchers..., You should know that the Spirit Of The Lord is against all liars and they shall have their part in the Lake Of Fire. This is ridiculous. Allen was yo-boy and you might as well fess up! Trying to backtrack and say that the relationship was so loose that there was no responsibility for his actions at the national church level is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Just like a Blue and Gold card for $500 to $2,000 per year with no retirement or other benefits attached...SMOKE and MIRRORS! We are sickened by cover ups and political wrangling and MOST importantly SICKENED by making the business of the church more important than the PEOPLE of the church. Your actions are not what Christ died for, nor did he leave any of you in this position to do what you've done and allowed and tried to cover. From the molestation at All Saints college which was settled for an undisclosed amount out of court, to that dealings of Sherman Allen to that of other reinstated criminals and pastoral molesters who serve in General Board member's Jurisdictions...WE ARE TIRED of coverups and unethical and unrighteous dealings. I may be nothing to you. I am but smaller than a blip on the radar, but my name is known in the heavenly council and I shall stand with or without you, not as a superior righteous one, but as one who has my sins forgiven and lives as a blood washed servant of Christ. Elder Foster, keep this "RAG" going and continue to point to the inequity and sins that must be repented of IF this people is to find the truly significant place in Christ that belongs to us. Some of us, Pastors, Supt.'s and Bishops wholly agree that sin is sin and we must repent, not in word only but in deed. Supt. Harvey Burnett Elder,

I’m sorry I’ve been somewhat busy and not able to chime in on this. THIS IS A MESS!

Elder Perry OUGHT to be ashamed of himself! In no short sense. This is ridiculous.

WHAT is a “National Sexual Misconduct Cmte” and who is Melvin Williams and Gerald Harris? WHAT, WHAT WHAT???

I’ve been a part of this organization for almost 30 years and have never been made aware of such a committee. In addition this violates any and all structure of an investigative committee as you point out.

To Perry and designated “rag” watchers…,

You should know that the Spirit Of The Lord is against all liars and they shall have their part in the Lake Of Fire. This is ridiculous. Allen was yo-boy and you might as well fess up! Trying to backtrack and say that the relationship was so loose that there was no responsibility for his actions at the national church level is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Just like a Blue and Gold card for $500 to $2,000 per year with no retirement or other benefits attached…SMOKE and MIRRORS!

We are sickened by cover ups and political wrangling and MOST importantly SICKENED by making the business of the church more important than the PEOPLE of the church. Your actions are not what Christ died for, nor did he leave any of you in this position to do what you’ve done and allowed and tried to cover. From the molestation at All Saints college which was settled for an undisclosed amount out of court, to that dealings of Sherman Allen to that of other reinstated criminals and pastoral molesters who serve in General Board member’s Jurisdictions…WE ARE TIRED of coverups and unethical and unrighteous dealings.

I may be nothing to you. I am but smaller than a blip on the radar, but my name is known in the heavenly council and I shall stand with or without you, not as a superior righteous one, but as one who has my sins forgiven and lives as a blood washed servant of Christ.

Elder Foster, keep this “RAG” going and continue to point to the inequity and sins that must be repented of IF this people is to find the truly significant place in Christ that belongs to us. Some of us, Pastors, Supt.’s and Bishops wholly agree that sin is sin and we must repent, not in word only but in deed.

Supt. Harvey Burnett

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