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	<title>Comments on: Deacon arrested for park sex sting now counting COGIC money</title>
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		<title>By: dickkopf</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>dickkopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Pastor Foster:

Indeed. I would like to hear how &lt;i&gt;behold&lt;/i&gt; would handle the situation.

So, &lt;i&gt;behold&lt;/i&gt;: you&#039;re in Blake&#039;s shoes now. What do you do?

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Pastor Foster:</p>
<p>Indeed. I would like to hear how <i>behold</i> would handle the situation.</p>
<p>So, <i>behold</i>: you&#8217;re in Blake&#8217;s shoes now. What do you do?</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-9091</link>
		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Lady D. Personally, I thought the question was particularly juvenile and served no good purpose. But thats a typical &quot;behold&quot; comment on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lady D. Personally, I thought the question was particularly juvenile and served no good purpose. But thats a typical &#8220;behold&#8221; comment on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady D</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Behold:

What would Jesus recommend?  Are you kidding? You can read any of the Lord&#039;s recommendations anytime, any place and any where.
And His written recommendations can be read from beginning to end in 365 days.  As you read His reconnendations,repent, repent again and obey and repent some more~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Behold:</p>
<p>What would Jesus recommend?  Are you kidding? You can read any of the Lord&#8217;s recommendations anytime, any place and any where.<br />
And His written recommendations can be read from beginning to end in 365 days.  As you read His reconnendations,repent, repent again and obey and repent some more~</p>
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		<title>By: behold</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-8940</link>
		<dc:creator>behold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the right question.

Yes, he equipped THEM with the authority to govern the church, but He is still the head of the church.

What would Jesus recommend?

&lt;strong&gt;GCMW: Let&#039;s test &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; biblical knowledge. You answer the question.&lt;/strong&gt;




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the right question.</p>
<p>Yes, he equipped THEM with the authority to govern the church, but He is still the head of the church.</p>
<p>What would Jesus recommend?</p>
<p><strong>GCMW: Let&#8217;s test <em>your</em> biblical knowledge. You answer the question.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not the right question.
Jesus set up leadership and equipped THEM with the authority to govern the church in his absence. Eph 4:11

&quot;And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven&quot; (Matthew 16:19). And later on, Jesus gave the same authority to all the apostles: &quot;Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven&quot; (Matthew 18:18).

So, instead of asking what Jesus would do, the question is what are we supposed to do in his absence since he told us to handle things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the right question.<br />
Jesus set up leadership and equipped THEM with the authority to govern the church in his absence. Eph 4:11</p>
<p>&#8220;And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven&#8221; (Matthew 16:19). And later on, Jesus gave the same authority to all the apostles: &#8220;Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven&#8221; (Matthew 18:18).</p>
<p>So, instead of asking what Jesus would do, the question is what are we supposed to do in his absence since he told us to handle things.</p>
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		<title>By: behold</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-8921</link>
		<dc:creator>behold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long would Jesus give him to show proof that he&#039;s not engaging in that type of activity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long would Jesus give him to show proof that he&#8217;s not engaging in that type of activity?</p>
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		<title>By: elder jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3329/deacon-arrested-for-park-sex-sting-now-counting-cogic-money/comment-page-1#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>elder jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you didn&#039;t leave or give the impression that this issue is just about children, I understand.   

I certainly agree witht he fact that the church has been waaayyyy too light on ordained or &quot;titled&quot; people.  I think a denom or independent church needs to come up with minimums for repentence and guidelines for restoration.  I don&#039;t think they are the same.  You can be forgiven and disciplined and resored to the church but does that always mean you shoul dbe reurned to your former position within the church?  Not always in my view.

The problem with GOGIC and many others is that restoration is done un a subjective way.  If I like you and you were poular and profitable for the organization you can come back quickly.  If I don&#039;t like you....well.  OR there exists no standard of practice at all for these types of sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you didn&#8217;t leave or give the impression that this issue is just about children, I understand.   </p>
<p>I certainly agree witht he fact that the church has been waaayyyy too light on ordained or &#8220;titled&#8221; people.  I think a denom or independent church needs to come up with minimums for repentence and guidelines for restoration.  I don&#8217;t think they are the same.  You can be forgiven and disciplined and resored to the church but does that always mean you shoul dbe reurned to your former position within the church?  Not always in my view.</p>
<p>The problem with GOGIC and many others is that restoration is done un a subjective way.  If I like you and you were poular and profitable for the organization you can come back quickly.  If I don&#8217;t like you&#8230;.well.  OR there exists no standard of practice at all for these types of sin.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youre right we dont know exactly what accountability he has been held to, but I guess my other question is how long should restoration be when it involves sexual sins and crimes? I dont think the bible gives us time requirements. And too many have went easy on folks with titles and talents.

I mean if you are given a 40 year sentence by the state and they stipulate no parole until you complete the sentence, generally that&#039;s what it will be. The church should act with grace and mercy, but not leave out the &quot;bring me meat for repentance&quot; aspect. In other words perhaps churches should say upfront, you will not be restored to this position until a period of X number. And then base that on proof of the individual remaining free and clear of such actions.

Again with the severe negative reflection on our Lord causing sinners to blaspheme his name, we need to tighten up this ship considerably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youre right we dont know exactly what accountability he has been held to, but I guess my other question is how long should restoration be when it involves sexual sins and crimes? I dont think the bible gives us time requirements. And too many have went easy on folks with titles and talents.</p>
<p>I mean if you are given a 40 year sentence by the state and they stipulate no parole until you complete the sentence, generally that&#8217;s what it will be. The church should act with grace and mercy, but not leave out the &#8220;bring me meat for repentance&#8221; aspect. In other words perhaps churches should say upfront, you will not be restored to this position until a period of X number. And then base that on proof of the individual remaining free and clear of such actions.</p>
<p>Again with the severe negative reflection on our Lord causing sinners to blaspheme his name, we need to tighten up this ship considerably.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elder Jimmy, this is the photo from the news report aired on WISN. See it at the link. And he committed a crime. I hope I didnt give the impression that this is ONLY about children. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elder Jimmy, this is the photo from the news report aired on WISN. See it at the link. And he committed a crime. I hope I didnt give the impression that this is ONLY about children. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: elder jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>elder jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little uncomfortable with his photo being used since what he did was directed to another adult and not a child.  I am not condemning it I am a little uncomfortable with it..my thoughts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little uncomfortable with his photo being used since what he did was directed to another adult and not a child.  I am not condemning it I am a little uncomfortable with it..my thoughts</p>
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