Comments on: Reaching homosexuals for Christ. Yeah. whatever.

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:26:36 +0000

I liked what Mark said….. there use to be times I was ‘leary’ of taking friends to church for fear of what they may hear about a specific sin but that is a God thing. There is some reason that the person is open to coming to church that day and the preacher just happened to be talking about something that stepped on their toes. Why should we treat this sin as if it were different? Yes, there may be deeper issues that drive men/women to this life style but there are also issues that drive people to drink their lives away. Do we shy away from preaching on drunkeness? NO…

By: wbmoore

wbmoore — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:05:57 +0000

Job, thanks for linking my post into this.

gmcwatch, thanks for the kind review.

By: wbmoore

wbmoore — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:43:26 +0000

We must teach truth to people in the church and out of it.
We must hold all people to the standard GOD calls us to – faith, love, obedience. Too many times Christians will focus on one of those three to the exclusion of the rest. So few churches actually teach the full Word of God (preferring to focus on certain aspects of it and ignoring others), and fewer still disciple the congregation.

All sin keeps us from God. All sin is forgiven by those who repent and turn to God through faith in Christ. All of us continue to sin after coming to God. All of us continually need to repent, confess, obey. All of us need to live our faith and grow in spiritual maturity. Homosexual sin is no different than heterosexual sin. How many churches ignore heterosexuals living in sin, but condemn the homosexual who is celebate? Talk about hypocrysy! We need to be obedient to God and loving and compassionate and truthful to all people. We can’t treat the rich man better than the poor, and neither can we treat the heterosexual sinner better than the homosexual sinner. They both need to be loved. They both need correcting. They both need to be shown what God has to say about what they are doing.

We can’t fix our house and then address a particular sin. We need to do both at the same time. But we can’t be hypocrits either – we must be honest with ourselves and others about where we fail and how we address that failure. This is what disicpleship is all about – teaching people what God has said and how to live a life of faith. Modeling that is needed in the church, and we’re failing badly in that area.

For what ever reason, God has had me address the issue of homosexual sex from various avenues. For those who are interested, I have a page with posts I have made on the subject.

http://wbmoore.wordpress.com/index-by-topic/homosexual-sex/

By: gcmwatch

gcmwatch — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:03:47 +0000

Wow, Job that was good sound wholesome teaching on that. Thanks for posting it.

Every objection of the gay theology movement can be answered with simple fundamentals of our faith. Mainly because each is connected and cannot be divorced at the risk of self righteousness.

Love cannot be separated from obedience. Love cannot be segregated from truth. Truth cannot be divorced from compassion and so forth.

The christian gays make love some sort of singular litmus test of acceptance of their sin, when no such thing exists in scripture.

By: Job

Job — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:36:16 +0000

Check this out. Strong delusions indeed.

http://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/an-ongoing-discussion-on-homosexuality-and-the-bible/

By: Lafe

Lafe — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:08:44 +0000

The true Church of God should simply study the Word of God as it pertains to the issue of homosexuality and adopt the same position as the Word…it is sin and the blood of the Lamb of God atones for that sin also. Homosexuality is sin. Period. If your church body does not agree to that position…then you are not ready to address the issues of the homosexual.
Once you agree to that position then you can inform your congregants that homosexuals will be welcomed here but we will preach the full gospel of the Word of God and not allow or condone
homosexual conduct and fully inform those stating that they are homosexuals that forgiveness is available and the power of the Holy Spirit is available for power in their lives to live above sin. Will some fail? Sure….I John 1:9 tells us that we fall but we can get up. The same with the homosexual. Give him or her the full gospel including repentance, belief, water baptism, communion, Holy Spirit baptism, Word study, prayer and fellowship.
The Blood of the Lamb does not stumble over homosexuality nor should we be fearful of it and nor should we put up with it.
We have the mind of Christ…let’s use it.
As far as the culture within the church, the pastor/elders must inform the congregations that homo jokes and other related nonsense will not be tolerated just as we do not make open jokes about fat women and men in the church.