Comments on: Accused COGIC sex abuser gets new church http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: heartsofstone http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9796 heartsofstone Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:28:58 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9796 Do the officials at the school know of the alleged crimes with which this man has been charged? I understand that the school itself is in financial need, but, surely, it would not want to sully its reputation by being affiliated with someone who has allegedly committing these crimes. Do the officials at the school know of the alleged crimes with which this man has been charged? I understand that the school itself is in financial need, but, surely, it would not want to sully its reputation by being affiliated with someone who has allegedly committing these crimes.

]]> By: dickkopf http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9778 dickkopf Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:30:13 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9778 Hello, Pastor Foster: Thank you for the reply. And, yes, I did notice the similarity. The <i>New</i> apparently means new opportunities for our Good Willie. I applaud your efforts in rooting these scumbags out, and exposing their crimes, Mr. Foster. All that you bring to light just makes me sad. I used to be angry, but that became my sin. I just flat out have a difficult time separating the sin from the sinner. Then, our Master Jesus reminds, "Peter, you are in the same boat." I repent as consistently as I know how. Love, Peter. Hello, Pastor Foster:

Thank you for the reply. And, yes, I did notice the similarity. The New apparently means new opportunities for our Good Willie.

I applaud your efforts in rooting these scumbags out, and exposing their crimes, Mr. Foster. All that you bring to light just makes me sad. I used to be angry, but that became my sin. I just flat out have a difficult time separating the sin from the sinner. Then, our Master Jesus reminds, “Peter, you are in the same boat.”

I repent as consistently as I know how.

Love,
Peter.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9746 gcmwatch Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:41:21 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9746 Hi Peter, well they kinda kicked him out, washed their hands of him. So Im not sure they know. But this has happened quite often in COGIC: Preacher does the nasty, then leaves COGIC and starts another church. Allen is simply following tradition it looks like. Sometimes they dont. I was VERY suprised to learn of a case in Knoxville Tennesee where the <a href="http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=45275" rel="nofollow">pastor was caught in a park sex sting</a>. The court dropped the charges in exchange for his getting into counseling. His church however was in an uproar and wanted him out. He went and <a href="http://www.newtrinitytabernaclechurchofgodinchrist.com" rel="nofollow">started another COGIC church</a> apparently with the Bishop's approval. Notice how simular the church names are. Wow, this stuff is stunning. Hi Peter, well they kinda kicked him out, washed their hands of him. So Im not sure they know. But this has happened quite often in COGIC:
Preacher does the nasty, then leaves COGIC and starts another church. Allen is simply following tradition it looks like.

Sometimes they dont. I was VERY suprised to learn of a case in Knoxville Tennesee where the pastor was caught in a park sex sting. The court dropped the charges in exchange for his getting into counseling.

His church however was in an uproar and wanted him out. He went and started another COGIC church apparently with the Bishop’s approval.

Notice how simular the church names are.

Wow, this stuff is stunning.

]]> By: dickkopf http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9744 dickkopf Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:27:27 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9744 Hello, Pastor Foster: Maybe I missed the obvious, but . . . do the high muckamucks in COGIC know about Sherman's change of venue? And have they tacitly approved of his new church digs? Thank you, sir. Peter. Hello, Pastor Foster:

Maybe I missed the obvious, but . . .

do the high muckamucks in COGIC know about Sherman’s change of venue? And have they tacitly approved of his new church digs?

Thank you, sir.

Peter.

]]> By: VRR http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9729 VRR Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:48:34 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9729 My heart goes out to YaYa. That's why it's important to make the public aware of these clergy predators so that they can't just run from city to city, neighborhoods to neighborhoods and start a new church so they can perpetuate the same nasty acts. It’s no different what the Catholic Diocese do with their priest accept Allen is now independent and is free to move about at will. When I was in the military years ago our commander would make certain clubs off limit, so what the club owners would do was just change the name of the club to another. Finally our commanders just made the addresses and streets off limits where these clubs where. Sherman Allen can change the name of his church all he wants, but it’s the same mess happening in the inside just wrapped in a different package. I understand that pain you feel YaYa because oh what a close family member in my family went through being clergy sexually abused. It's devastating for the victim and their family if they don't get the right help. That’s why they’re called “Survivors” of clergy sexual abuse because most victims end up like you said YaYa, being molesters themselves, strung out on drugs, non productive citizens, and the biggest end up committing suicide. When I was in Pentecostal churches they would preach against going to secular counselors and therapist for help, but I am glad I am out from under those false teachers. I realized that the reason why they preached against talking to secular counselors is because secular counselors can look at things from a logical standpoint (logics which they rob from their victims) and they are able to see through the deceptions in these ministries. Today, I can't tolerate visiting a church for more than one or two Sundays before not ever returning again because I've seen how deceptive these ministers, laypersons, and musicians are in church. I know this is sad but I don’t care for church as we know because that experience in my family taught me that my salvation comes down to my personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and that church is just a fellowship. But today church is just a business much like Microsoft with many clergy preying on their members. Most all of clergy abuser like you said DL has some level of "Charisma", it’s like all of them read the same "textbook" as to how to manipulate and deceived their victims. Sherman Allen is dangerous and I agree DL that the only that can be done is make others aware of his tricks and deceptions, but it's up to the blinded members of his church to realize he's a false prophet and con artist. At least they can’t say they weren’t warned! Sorry for being longwinded lol. My heart goes out to YaYa. That’s why it’s important to make the public aware of these clergy predators so that they can’t just run from city to city, neighborhoods to neighborhoods and start a new church so they can perpetuate the same nasty acts. It’s no different what the Catholic Diocese do with their priest accept Allen is now independent and is free to move about at will. When I was in the military years ago our commander would make certain clubs off limit, so what the club owners would do was just change the name of the club to another. Finally our commanders just made the addresses and streets off limits where these clubs where. Sherman Allen can change the name of his church all he wants, but it’s the same mess happening in the inside just wrapped in a different package. I understand that pain you feel YaYa because oh what a close family member in my family went through being clergy sexually abused. It’s devastating for the victim and their family if they don’t get the right help. That’s why they’re called “Survivors” of clergy sexual abuse because most victims end up like you said YaYa, being molesters themselves, strung out on drugs, non productive citizens, and the biggest end up committing suicide. When I was in Pentecostal churches they would preach against going to secular counselors and therapist for help, but I am glad I am out from under those false teachers. I realized that the reason why they preached against talking to secular counselors is because secular counselors can look at things from a logical standpoint (logics which they rob from their victims) and they are able to see through the deceptions in these ministries.

Today, I can’t tolerate visiting a church for more than one or two Sundays before not ever returning again because I’ve seen how deceptive these ministers, laypersons, and musicians are in church. I know this is sad but I don’t care for church as we know because that experience in my family taught me that my salvation comes down to my personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and that church is just a fellowship. But today church is just a business much like Microsoft with many clergy preying on their members. Most all of clergy abuser like you said DL has some level of “Charisma”, it’s like all of them read the same “textbook” as to how to manipulate and deceived their victims. Sherman Allen is dangerous and I agree DL that the only that can be done is make others aware of his tricks and deceptions, but it’s up to the blinded members of his church to realize he’s a false prophet and con artist. At least they can’t say they weren’t warned!

Sorry for being longwinded lol.

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/3508/accused-cogic-sex-abuser-gets-new-church/comment-page-1#comment-9718 gcmwatch Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:36:42 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=3508#comment-9718 VRR, most false prophets have tons of charisma and that's what attracts most of the people who are so shallow in the walk with Christ and biblically illiterate, they fall for the charm of the snake. They lack an ability to judge based on what the Word says, so people like Allen scoop em up like nobody's business. He will charm his new victims with his charisma and lull them into following him, giving him their money and in exchange they get a basketload of false prophecies that sound really, really good. But we can only warn and make the information available. If they choose to run into the wolf's lair and ignore the warnings, may God have mercy on them. Still, its a lowdown shame. VRR, most false prophets have tons of charisma and that’s what attracts most of the people who are so shallow in the walk with Christ and biblically illiterate, they fall for the charm of the snake. They lack an ability to judge based on what the Word says, so people like Allen scoop em up like nobody’s business.

He will charm his new victims with his charisma and lull them into following him, giving him their money and in exchange they get a basketload of false prophecies that sound really, really good.

But we can only warn and make the information available. If they choose to run into the wolf’s lair and ignore the warnings, may God have mercy on them.

Still, its a lowdown shame.

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