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	<title>Comments on: COGIC Official &#8220;offended&#8221; by sexual abuse website</title>
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		<title>By: Apostle Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-11684</link>
		<dc:creator>Apostle Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that so many people have to be wounded along with the already wounded. There is clearly a certain level of restraint and honor that is needed whenever we are attempting to resolve conflict and to make the wounded whole. We have many persons out there who no doubt have just heard the Gospel through the medium of the COGIC. We should make sure that we are sensitive to people who have recently become born again and do not have the strength  or discernment to understand that the entire organization is not corrupt but rather a select few. I am not a member of the COGIC so I am not trying to cover them as one would think. It does say in the Scriptures blessed are the merciful for the shall obtain mercy (Mt.5:7). Let&#039;s not hinder the gospel while trying to eradicate sin.
Love to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that so many people have to be wounded along with the already wounded. There is clearly a certain level of restraint and honor that is needed whenever we are attempting to resolve conflict and to make the wounded whole. We have many persons out there who no doubt have just heard the Gospel through the medium of the COGIC. We should make sure that we are sensitive to people who have recently become born again and do not have the strength  or discernment to understand that the entire organization is not corrupt but rather a select few. I am not a member of the COGIC so I am not trying to cover them as one would think. It does say in the Scriptures blessed are the merciful for the shall obtain mercy (Mt.5:7). Let&#8217;s not hinder the gospel while trying to eradicate sin.<br />
Love to all.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-11066</link>
		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WA,

Thank God for your salvation but please let me remind you that the church (of God in Christ) didnt die for you on the cross, Jesus did. Be careful not to ascribe his rightful glory to another. If the COGIC didnt exist and you cried out to God to save you, it would have still happened. That&#039;s focusing on the word.

Thank God for your pastor whom you apparently are witness to of living an exemplary life. But let us not forget our responsibility to confront sin openly when it is open. No one in the church is an island unto themselves. If we see it, hear about it and discern evil among us and yet do nothing, we bear guilt of complicity.  You indicated you have heard of abuses. The rape, molestation and sexual assaults of children and vunerable men and women is a deeply grevious transgression with far reaching effects.

Be careful that your loyalty to your church does not color your loyalty to the word of the Lord. That&#039;s the danger. Its called respect of persons. God does not have it and neither should we. Leaders who are derelict should be held accountable. When the Lord brings your sins to the open, the leaders&#039; response should not be to circle the wagons and get the pr machine in spin mode, but to call for serious evaluation and repentance  from wrongdoing. Moreover, they should not punish or minimize the the cries of those who have been victimized. Whether you want to admit it or not, COGIC leadership is guilty of all of this.

Satan &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; an accuser and he works through those in religious power to hinder divine discipline when it is time. Say what you want, but dont forget that satan is transformed into an angel of light and his ministers into ministers of righteousness. Not to deceive the world, but God&#039;s people.

You say dont attack cogic. I dont understand that statement as it has no accompanying examples of such &quot;attack&quot;. If I cry loud and spare not is that &quot;attacking&quot;? If I tell the truth without respect of persons is that &quot;attacking&quot;? If I expose the unfruitful works of darkness is that &quot;attacking&quot;? Or is it because I mentioned the name &quot;COGIC&quot; you construe that as attacking?

I agree with you our focus should be on the Word of God, but it seems you want to exempt your church when it is culpable. To my knowledge change comes through repentance but those who cover (conceal with intent to deceive) their sins &lt;strong&gt;will not&lt;/strong&gt; prosper. Unless COGIC has some sort of biblical exemption Im not aware of, then what the website seeks to accomplish is Godly and true to both the spirit and letter of the Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WA,</p>
<p>Thank God for your salvation but please let me remind you that the church (of God in Christ) didnt die for you on the cross, Jesus did. Be careful not to ascribe his rightful glory to another. If the COGIC didnt exist and you cried out to God to save you, it would have still happened. That&#8217;s focusing on the word.</p>
<p>Thank God for your pastor whom you apparently are witness to of living an exemplary life. But let us not forget our responsibility to confront sin openly when it is open. No one in the church is an island unto themselves. If we see it, hear about it and discern evil among us and yet do nothing, we bear guilt of complicity.  You indicated you have heard of abuses. The rape, molestation and sexual assaults of children and vunerable men and women is a deeply grevious transgression with far reaching effects.</p>
<p>Be careful that your loyalty to your church does not color your loyalty to the word of the Lord. That&#8217;s the danger. Its called respect of persons. God does not have it and neither should we. Leaders who are derelict should be held accountable. When the Lord brings your sins to the open, the leaders&#8217; response should not be to circle the wagons and get the pr machine in spin mode, but to call for serious evaluation and repentance  from wrongdoing. Moreover, they should not punish or minimize the the cries of those who have been victimized. Whether you want to admit it or not, COGIC leadership is guilty of all of this.</p>
<p>Satan <em>is</em> an accuser and he works through those in religious power to hinder divine discipline when it is time. Say what you want, but dont forget that satan is transformed into an angel of light and his ministers into ministers of righteousness. Not to deceive the world, but God&#8217;s people.</p>
<p>You say dont attack cogic. I dont understand that statement as it has no accompanying examples of such &#8220;attack&#8221;. If I cry loud and spare not is that &#8220;attacking&#8221;? If I tell the truth without respect of persons is that &#8220;attacking&#8221;? If I expose the unfruitful works of darkness is that &#8220;attacking&#8221;? Or is it because I mentioned the name &#8220;COGIC&#8221; you construe that as attacking?</p>
<p>I agree with you our focus should be on the Word of God, but it seems you want to exempt your church when it is culpable. To my knowledge change comes through repentance but those who cover (conceal with intent to deceive) their sins <strong>will not</strong> prosper. Unless COGIC has some sort of biblical exemption Im not aware of, then what the website seeks to accomplish is Godly and true to both the spirit and letter of the Word.</p>
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		<title>By: W.A.</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-11062</link>
		<dc:creator>W.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At First I said,this is good, it will make the leaders of the Church that I love so much more accountable.I have heard of abuses that have been reported and the leaders seems to be slow to respond.I was saved in COGIC the old time way in 1982 as a teen.My family was not in  cogic at that time ,I went with friend from school, there father was the Pastor.I had a father at home ,but this man of God helped me become a real man and a holy man.He was the husband of one wife who he loved dearly and father of 14 children.He lived it at home,I spent days and nights there,He lived it and taught it at church.He was and still lives holy and taught me that I could live free from sin.Today I am a pastor of 10yrs.I still believe that holiness is right,not this new holiness of the last 20yrs,but that old time power that changed my life and knocked a 6&#039;1 220b young football player in the floor and wouldn&#039;t let me up until i said ,YES LORD.IT seems to me in some articles that you are attacking the church,rather then reporting abuses.Your web-site has the attention of the churches leader,evident my the comments made in our general assembly.But please remember to stay focused on the word of God not on attacking cogic .A lot of us and still living holy and if you fight the church instead reporting the truth then you become a accuser. Satan is the accuser.My god help you is my prayer. (People of all backgrounds &amp; beliefs are seeing this and God will Judge)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At First I said,this is good, it will make the leaders of the Church that I love so much more accountable.I have heard of abuses that have been reported and the leaders seems to be slow to respond.I was saved in COGIC the old time way in 1982 as a teen.My family was not in  cogic at that time ,I went with friend from school, there father was the Pastor.I had a father at home ,but this man of God helped me become a real man and a holy man.He was the husband of one wife who he loved dearly and father of 14 children.He lived it at home,I spent days and nights there,He lived it and taught it at church.He was and still lives holy and taught me that I could live free from sin.Today I am a pastor of 10yrs.I still believe that holiness is right,not this new holiness of the last 20yrs,but that old time power that changed my life and knocked a 6&#8217;1 220b young football player in the floor and wouldn&#8217;t let me up until i said ,YES LORD.IT seems to me in some articles that you are attacking the church,rather then reporting abuses.Your web-site has the attention of the churches leader,evident my the comments made in our general assembly.But please remember to stay focused on the word of God not on attacking cogic .A lot of us and still living holy and if you fight the church instead reporting the truth then you become a accuser. Satan is the accuser.My god help you is my prayer. (People of all backgrounds &amp; beliefs are seeing this and God will Judge)</p>
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		<title>By: Jannette</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-10514</link>
		<dc:creator>Jannette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say, I am a member of the COGIC and will remain a member because I trust the doctrine to keep me on the right track and get me to heaven.  I beleive what the bible says, there are &quot;sinners&quot; in zion, which means sinners in the church.  Leaders are not above sinning as we are not, none of us are.  According to the bible, we are to pray for those in authority every where and pray for each other (people every where).  The COGIC is not corrupt just because some members in it are.  I&#039;m not condonning the wrong in the Bishops or Elders, or any members for that matter.  I do believe if we are true children of God, and we pray over these kind of situations, the Lord will intervene and give deliverance and victory, which ever way He sees fit.  It is ours to pray and fight against sin no matter who it&#039;s in.  We are no better off if we spread gossip (true or false) to kill the influnce of others, God forbid.  I pray you that keep this ugly communication going, will take time to seek God in pray for an answers the church and the world needs today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say, I am a member of the COGIC and will remain a member because I trust the doctrine to keep me on the right track and get me to heaven.  I beleive what the bible says, there are &#8220;sinners&#8221; in zion, which means sinners in the church.  Leaders are not above sinning as we are not, none of us are.  According to the bible, we are to pray for those in authority every where and pray for each other (people every where).  The COGIC is not corrupt just because some members in it are.  I&#8217;m not condonning the wrong in the Bishops or Elders, or any members for that matter.  I do believe if we are true children of God, and we pray over these kind of situations, the Lord will intervene and give deliverance and victory, which ever way He sees fit.  It is ours to pray and fight against sin no matter who it&#8217;s in.  We are no better off if we spread gossip (true or false) to kill the influnce of others, God forbid.  I pray you that keep this ugly communication going, will take time to seek God in pray for an answers the church and the world needs today.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyia</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-10327</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COGIC IS A MESS ..TAHT WHY WE ARE PULLING OUT ....22YEARS IN IT ..A BIG MESS ..COME TO MN IS REAL BAD...A JOKE ..A JOKE....NASTY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COGIC IS A MESS ..TAHT WHY WE ARE PULLING OUT &#8230;.22YEARS IN IT ..A BIG MESS ..COME TO MN IS REAL BAD&#8230;A JOKE ..A JOKE&#8230;.NASTY</p>
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		<title>By: Job</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3635/cogic-official-offended-by-sexual-abuse-website/comment-page-1#comment-10318</link>
		<dc:creator>Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Our first concern is the parishioners, not just pastors,” he added.

Precisely the problem. The first concern should be God and being obedient to Him through His revealed, infallible Word to us, the Bible, which is to be the final authority in all situations. The Bible is what tells us of the qualifications for ministry. The Bible tells us what to do when ministers no longer meet these qualifications. Clearly COGIC ignores these instructions. As such, they are not a Bible-centered organization, and as a result they are not a God-centered organization, but rather just another corporation and should be viewed and treated as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Our first concern is the parishioners, not just pastors,” he added.</p>
<p>Precisely the problem. The first concern should be God and being obedient to Him through His revealed, infallible Word to us, the Bible, which is to be the final authority in all situations. The Bible is what tells us of the qualifications for ministry. The Bible tells us what to do when ministers no longer meet these qualifications. Clearly COGIC ignores these instructions. As such, they are not a Bible-centered organization, and as a result they are not a God-centered organization, but rather just another corporation and should be viewed and treated as such.</p>
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