Comments on: A new birth?: Eddie Long’s “spiritual son” showing cult side

By: Rogers

Rogers — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:45:13 +0000

I agree with gcmwatch…a commitment ring that your male parishioners have to wear to indicate their undying, and unrevocable dedication to you as the male pastor sounds gay. I think it’s interesting that people are bringing up Jim Jones.
Every one knows, especially from the recent documentary that just put chills down my spine, that he started off as a charismatic, prosperity preacher in Illinois (I believe)…and it disintegrated into the mess we now know of today. Interestingly, I learned from the documentary, that sexual relations with the men in his congregration were required. They actually had to sign a written document that this was to be expected to symbolize their loyalty to him upon entering the church/they actually have samples of these letters in the documentary…which is demonic, disturbing, and gross…I find it startling that this is what christian evangelism in America is producing when transported to other countries!
Bishop Long/Jakes and whoever should be ashamed of themselves!

By: pastor.ctj

pastor.ctj — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:28:32 +0000

Here is a link to the original News report in the
New Zealand Herald.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10605956&pnum=0

The quotes are from there…
Here is an other one that raises some questions:
Under “Church Service (in house) Protocols” the men are encouraged to sit as close as possible to the front of the church to be nearer to Mr Tamaki and to be vocal during his preaching, affirming what he has to say with “amen” and “that’s right”, clapping, shouting and laughing. This sort of participation is said to build “an atmosphere that is conducive to supernatural events”.

They are told to bring Bible, pen, paper or laptop to note down Mr Tamaki’s sermons which “shows how highly you value the Word of God from Bishop’s mouth”.

Interesting to note that there is no mention of this event on the ministry’s website, and that at each of the ministry’s 11 locations, the ‘pastors’ are husband and wife teams. That for me is ALWAYS a red flag, as is the fact that under their statement of beliefs there is this:
‘The church is Gods only hope for the human race.’
Shouldn’t it be the other way around???

By: gcmwatch

gcmwatch — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:07:46 +0000

Wow, that sounds straight up “pope-ish”! What about the priesthood of every believer? This is near deification of a human.
Do you have a link to the doc, pastorctj?

By: pastor.ctj

pastor.ctj — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:03:38 +0000

The document contains the following:
Under “Conduct Towards Bishop”, the “sons” are told that “Bishop is the tangible expression of God”, so they need to understand how to properly approach their man of God “to protect the anointing and not transgress this special relationship”.

Lord have mercy!

By: Bettina

Bettina — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:16:46 +0000

Rosie… these so-called ‘obedient sheep’ – like most christians are being obedient to the wrong voice – to the wrong entity.

I find that Christian will more readily follow the voice of a man (or woman) rather than follow the voice of God. And by the way – they are not necessarily one in the same.

We’d (christians) better be very careful in our own places of worship, etc.

I am seeing more and more of this hinted at – even in the ‘smaller’ local churches.

READ your OWN bible. Don’t forget a preacher, pastor, bishop – they are only MEN!

Allegience to them – will not be used as an excuse before God.

Know the ‘word’ and the Lord for yourself.

By: Bettina

Bettina — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:11:34 +0000

I personally believe that this whole thing is a prelude to some sort of homosexual ‘uprising’ within the ranks of the Christian church.

Men like Carlton Pearson and The ‘most high’ Bishop Eddie Long – in my opinion – are its’ ‘ring leaders’.

Anytime a ‘so-called’ man of God (Long) can ‘prance’ around a pulpit in a muscle shirt – his mind has already ventured into the reprobate pool.

And if you are any student of history – none of this (where men in ‘high offices’ are concerned) is anything new to this ‘sin-soaked’ world.