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	<title>Comments on: Was Jesus tempted by homosexuality?</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally agree that all sin fall into the 3 categories. I also believe that there are sins unto death (abomination) and sins not unto death.
  I am sure that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the propitiation for our sin and able to make all grace apply unto all who come unto him with an honest and true heart.
  Where I have problems with homosexuality is when they try to make excuses, say they were born that way or that they can be Christians while actively engaging in a lifestyle condemned by a multitude of counsellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally agree that all sin fall into the 3 categories. I also believe that there are sins unto death (abomination) and sins not unto death.<br />
  I am sure that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the propitiation for our sin and able to make all grace apply unto all who come unto him with an honest and true heart.<br />
  Where I have problems with homosexuality is when they try to make excuses, say they were born that way or that they can be Christians while actively engaging in a lifestyle condemned by a multitude of counsellers.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is a case where a literal view does not work. Behold said it first, all transgressions are housed under the three major categories of sin.

This cannot be literally true as Erik pointed out but I think a broader application of Heb 4:15 is allowable. 

I will say though that having once been homosexual, Heb 4:15 does hold a powerful message for me. Even if he wasnt personally tempted by homosexuality, Jesus still understood my struggle to overcome it and can still be a specific and effective mediator for me in that context. I think every person has to be able to see their sin ---no matter how modern it is--- in the book and to see that Jesus knows and can deliver and keep them from it. A timeless power that only he holds.

Homosexual sin is just a manifested component of sexual lust.

And finally could John 21:25 possibly shed light onto this question or at least suggest its possibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is a case where a literal view does not work. Behold said it first, all transgressions are housed under the three major categories of sin.</p>
<p>This cannot be literally true as Erik pointed out but I think a broader application of Heb 4:15 is allowable. </p>
<p>I will say though that having once been homosexual, Heb 4:15 does hold a powerful message for me. Even if he wasnt personally tempted by homosexuality, Jesus still understood my struggle to overcome it and can still be a specific and effective mediator for me in that context. I think every person has to be able to see their sin &#8212;no matter how modern it is&#8212; in the book and to see that Jesus knows and can deliver and keep them from it. A timeless power that only he holds.</p>
<p>Homosexual sin is just a manifested component of sexual lust.</p>
<p>And finally could John 21:25 possibly shed light onto this question or at least suggest its possibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Lapreghiera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lapreghiera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Behold and Erik analysis, and its really just another ridiculous argument homosexuals and other sinners want to make. If they get convicted by that, then they&#039;ll want to say Jesus was just a great teacher, he was not divine, so they feel they have nothing to fear
 I have been trying to find this short story someone wrote years ago, about how even standing before the White Throne Judgement, men will still be trying to say Jesus is not worthy to judge them because he did not live through what some of them had to. So they call out criteria like someone whose legitimacy of birth is questionable, came from humble backgrounds, only had a basic education, had to work for a living, championed a cause that was not popular, was unjustly accused, betrayed by friends, wrongfully imprisoned, and died for a crime they did not commit.
Now who does that sound like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Behold and Erik analysis, and its really just another ridiculous argument homosexuals and other sinners want to make. If they get convicted by that, then they&#8217;ll want to say Jesus was just a great teacher, he was not divine, so they feel they have nothing to fear<br />
 I have been trying to find this short story someone wrote years ago, about how even standing before the White Throne Judgement, men will still be trying to say Jesus is not worthy to judge them because he did not live through what some of them had to. So they call out criteria like someone whose legitimacy of birth is questionable, came from humble backgrounds, only had a basic education, had to work for a living, championed a cause that was not popular, was unjustly accused, betrayed by friends, wrongfully imprisoned, and died for a crime they did not commit.<br />
Now who does that sound like?</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sin results from temptation, which stems from within our own wicked hearts {Matt. 15 19}. Christ did not possess a sinful heart, nor did He possess a sin nature. His temptation was outside, not from within. He became &#039;sin&#039; on the cross only in the sense that He took our punishment because of our sins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sin results from temptation, which stems from within our own wicked hearts {Matt. 15 19}. Christ did not possess a sinful heart, nor did He possess a sin nature. His temptation was outside, not from within. He became &#8217;sin&#8217; on the cross only in the sense that He took our punishment because of our sins.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friends,

We must all remember at times, to contend for the faith, not so much defend, because on that day, &quot;every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.&quot;  Discussions and topics like this could&#039;ve been the very thing the Apostle Paul was speaking of, when alerting us not to get caught up in wasteful conversation, even if it seems offensive &quot;don&#039;t be offended by the offenses for they are sure to come.&quot;  There is a terminology some of us in christendom use when pertaining to Christ temptation in the desert, and it is called &quot;The Impeccability of Christ&quot;, meaning though he was tempted to sin, but could not sin due to his divine nature, this is why he is called the &quot;God Man&quot;, for those of us who believe we must believe he was all man and all God.  The bk of Hebrews speaks this way, &quot;we have a high priest who knows and understands our afflictions&quot; as a few have said already, no specifics are necessary.  His temptation in the desert simply emphasizes, as he exhibited without using his divine nature, that if we love, stand-on, and trust in the Word of God &quot;man shall not feed on bread alone, but every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God&quot;
that we can overcome every temptation and if its too much, he will give us &quot;room to escape.&quot;  For many of us will, if it hasn&#039;t happened already will have a &quot;cup&quot; to drink from and a &quot;baptism&quot; to receive, and only by loving and trusting in the living &quot;LOGOS&quot; will be able to drink from that &quot;cup&quot; and be &quot;baptizied&quot; in the same baptism he was.  So I would say to my fellow yoke fellows, lets not get caught up
in these type of conversations, or should I say lets try not to, for the Lord does not I repeat need us to defend him, for he says, &quot;I own a cattle on a thousand hills, if I were hungry, I wouldn&#039;t need you to feed me.&quot;  Loving you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>We must all remember at times, to contend for the faith, not so much defend, because on that day, &#8220;every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.&#8221;  Discussions and topics like this could&#8217;ve been the very thing the Apostle Paul was speaking of, when alerting us not to get caught up in wasteful conversation, even if it seems offensive &#8220;don&#8217;t be offended by the offenses for they are sure to come.&#8221;  There is a terminology some of us in christendom use when pertaining to Christ temptation in the desert, and it is called &#8220;The Impeccability of Christ&#8221;, meaning though he was tempted to sin, but could not sin due to his divine nature, this is why he is called the &#8220;God Man&#8221;, for those of us who believe we must believe he was all man and all God.  The bk of Hebrews speaks this way, &#8220;we have a high priest who knows and understands our afflictions&#8221; as a few have said already, no specifics are necessary.  His temptation in the desert simply emphasizes, as he exhibited without using his divine nature, that if we love, stand-on, and trust in the Word of God &#8220;man shall not feed on bread alone, but every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God&#8221;<br />
that we can overcome every temptation and if its too much, he will give us &#8220;room to escape.&#8221;  For many of us will, if it hasn&#8217;t happened already will have a &#8220;cup&#8221; to drink from and a &#8220;baptism&#8221; to receive, and only by loving and trusting in the living &#8220;LOGOS&#8221; will be able to drink from that &#8220;cup&#8221; and be &#8220;baptizied&#8221; in the same baptism he was.  So I would say to my fellow yoke fellows, lets not get caught up<br />
in these type of conversations, or should I say lets try not to, for the Lord does not I repeat need us to defend him, for he says, &#8220;I own a cattle on a thousand hills, if I were hungry, I wouldn&#8217;t need you to feed me.&#8221;  Loving you all.</p>
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		<title>By: ReRe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReRe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ wisdom hunter and Iesha,

Your answers combined are the most accurate to me.  I don&#039;t think it is important to veer off into specifics.  If God wanted us to know specifics, He would have specifically told us specifics. It&#039;s like a small child trying to know every detail of his father&#039;s job.  All he really cares about is that daddy loves him  and he&#039;s being cared for.  Leave daddy&#039;s job up to daddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ wisdom hunter and Iesha,</p>
<p>Your answers combined are the most accurate to me.  I don&#8217;t think it is important to veer off into specifics.  If God wanted us to know specifics, He would have specifically told us specifics. It&#8217;s like a small child trying to know every detail of his father&#8217;s job.  All he really cares about is that daddy loves him  and he&#8217;s being cared for.  Leave daddy&#8217;s job up to daddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jesus Christ was tempted in the desert, he was tempted according to what Jesus was, what he could do...
He could have changed the stones into bread if He wanted to, but for what end? He would be praising Himself. He could have cast himself down, only to be lifted by angels, but this again would have been praising Himself. He could have knelt to Satan, and Satan could have given Him the kingdoms of the world, but this would have been creator woshipping the creature.
He was tempted in all ways as we have not in the same sins, but the same way to praise self and Satan.
For instance, Jesus was never tempted to spend a evening of watching &#039;Friends&#039; for four hours a night, nor was He tempted to have sex with the same sex. But in both of these accounts, the nature of these sins is that of worshipping self, and things, other that God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jesus Christ was tempted in the desert, he was tempted according to what Jesus was, what he could do&#8230;<br />
He could have changed the stones into bread if He wanted to, but for what end? He would be praising Himself. He could have cast himself down, only to be lifted by angels, but this again would have been praising Himself. He could have knelt to Satan, and Satan could have given Him the kingdoms of the world, but this would have been creator woshipping the creature.<br />
He was tempted in all ways as we have not in the same sins, but the same way to praise self and Satan.<br />
For instance, Jesus was never tempted to spend a evening of watching &#8216;Friends&#8217; for four hours a night, nor was He tempted to have sex with the same sex. But in both of these accounts, the nature of these sins is that of worshipping self, and things, other that God.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me I would just like to know what does the bible mean, He was tempted in all ways but yet He didnt sin, the specifics dont matter to me.  Obviously when the bible says Jesus was tempted it didnt mean He was in any way drawn to sin as we are in this flesh of ours. Jesus became sin, what exactly does that mean is also my question if anyone would like to tell me what they think it would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me I would just like to know what does the bible mean, He was tempted in all ways but yet He didnt sin, the specifics dont matter to me.  Obviously when the bible says Jesus was tempted it didnt mean He was in any way drawn to sin as we are in this flesh of ours. Jesus became sin, what exactly does that mean is also my question if anyone would like to tell me what they think it would be greatly appreciated. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: wisdom hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>wisdom hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The absurdity of this question is beyond my ability to articulate ,but I shall try to give a satisfactory response.( James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed). The key word in the text is own lust. We are not all tempted by the same things, and Christ was no different. We must also know that although Jesus totally identified with our humanity he was not the seed of Adam, but the seed of God the father.( Luke 1:35 therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God). The word pathos is the diseased condition of the soul from which lust springs forth. Jesus&#039;s only desire was for the world to believe that he was the Son of God. Thats why satan said if thou be the Son of God prove it. We have contaminated soulistic desires because of the bloodline of Adam that makes us sucseptible to many of the snares of satan&#039;s temptation. Christ could not have been tempted by homosexuality because the perfect soul would not have an appetite for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The absurdity of this question is beyond my ability to articulate ,but I shall try to give a satisfactory response.( James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed). The key word in the text is own lust. We are not all tempted by the same things, and Christ was no different. We must also know that although Jesus totally identified with our humanity he was not the seed of Adam, but the seed of God the father.( Luke 1:35 therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God). The word pathos is the diseased condition of the soul from which lust springs forth. Jesus&#8217;s only desire was for the world to believe that he was the Son of God. Thats why satan said if thou be the Son of God prove it. We have contaminated soulistic desires because of the bloodline of Adam that makes us sucseptible to many of the snares of satan&#8217;s temptation. Christ could not have been tempted by homosexuality because the perfect soul would not have an appetite for it.</p>
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		<title>By: lesha</title>
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		<dc:creator>lesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we missing the point?  Isn&#039;t the real issue here that Jesus Christ OVERCOME  (is this right grammar?) every temptation that came his way?  Whether he was tempted by homosexuality or not, is pointless, the true point is he OVERCAME and he did not sin.  And because he overcame, we too can be overcomers.  That&#039;s the meat of the matter.

And yes, we could spend hours debating whether her was tempted by homosexuality or not........and this is precisely why the apostle Paul mentions &#039;debate&#039; in a category that included hatred, strife etc...... Not all debate is of a Godly origin. 

My two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we missing the point?  Isn&#8217;t the real issue here that Jesus Christ OVERCOME  (is this right grammar?) every temptation that came his way?  Whether he was tempted by homosexuality or not, is pointless, the true point is he OVERCAME and he did not sin.  And because he overcame, we too can be overcomers.  That&#8217;s the meat of the matter.</p>
<p>And yes, we could spend hours debating whether her was tempted by homosexuality or not&#8230;&#8230;..and this is precisely why the apostle Paul mentions &#8216;debate&#8217; in a category that included hatred, strife etc&#8230;&#8230; Not all debate is of a Godly origin. </p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
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