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	<title>Comments on: Commercial Appeal: COGIC minister arrested for rape of 16 year girl *updated*</title>
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		<title>By: Broderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to me on many levels how much the &quot;church is allowing to come in.  The spirit of wordliness has crept into the sanctuary and the shepherds are either sleep or too dumb to recognize the danger that the flock is in.  When I came to the Lord a long time ago people were asking God what can I give up to get closer to you.  It seems in the permissive and lack age that people are now asking &quot;how much can I do before it&#039;s considered crossing the line.&quot;  I see we are living in an age where saints are considering themselves &quot;sexy&quot; What would Jesus say about all of the mess that is going on in our churches today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to me on many levels how much the &#8220;church is allowing to come in.  The spirit of wordliness has crept into the sanctuary and the shepherds are either sleep or too dumb to recognize the danger that the flock is in.  When I came to the Lord a long time ago people were asking God what can I give up to get closer to you.  It seems in the permissive and lack age that people are now asking &#8220;how much can I do before it&#8217;s considered crossing the line.&#8221;  I see we are living in an age where saints are considering themselves &#8220;sexy&#8221; What would Jesus say about all of the mess that is going on in our churches today.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11283</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi GCM Watch
I am blessed by your site and John Miller prophecy is a stark warning to us.

I have a request. The church that I attend does not have a Ministerial Code of Conduct and as a consequence there has been every kind of abuse known:

sexual
financial
emotional
mental
physical

and the ministers are held above reproach, regardless of their sin.

It is on my heart to write a Policy to protect the flock against the many &#039;wolves&#039; that hide behind dog-collars. I am of the view that there is an unbalanced ethos within our churches towards the leadership and the laity are being exploited and abused. Don&#039;t get me wrong government is important in our churches but the unaccountable dictatorship are way outside of what Christ came to establish. 

So what I am asking is support in framing this Policy and I will donate  the copyrights of the Policy to this site, so that others can address some of the imbalances within our church. I already have a basic framework but any help would be appreciated.

E-mail address supplied</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi GCM Watch<br />
I am blessed by your site and John Miller prophecy is a stark warning to us.</p>
<p>I have a request. The church that I attend does not have a Ministerial Code of Conduct and as a consequence there has been every kind of abuse known:</p>
<p>sexual<br />
financial<br />
emotional<br />
mental<br />
physical</p>
<p>and the ministers are held above reproach, regardless of their sin.</p>
<p>It is on my heart to write a Policy to protect the flock against the many &#8216;wolves&#8217; that hide behind dog-collars. I am of the view that there is an unbalanced ethos within our churches towards the leadership and the laity are being exploited and abused. Don&#8217;t get me wrong government is important in our churches but the unaccountable dictatorship are way outside of what Christ came to establish. </p>
<p>So what I am asking is support in framing this Policy and I will donate  the copyrights of the Policy to this site, so that others can address some of the imbalances within our church. I already have a basic framework but any help would be appreciated.</p>
<p>E-mail address supplied</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People of God,

Paul instructed his (2) young pastors&#039;, in the following:  &quot;to lay no hands on noone suddenley&quot;, &quot;he is to be no novice&quot;, and he is to be &quot;blameless&quot; which we know to be not &quot;sinless&quot;, but beyond reproach.  If were honest we nolonger want the true &quot;pastors and teachers after God&#039;s own heart&quot;, but &quot;pastors and teachers, after mans&#039; own heart w/itchy ear messages&quot;, I&#039;m reminded of 1st Sam when the people said, &quot;we want a King of our own flesh and blood&quot; and even being warned of theses kings&#039; nature, they said, &quot;nay we still want a king of our own flesh and blood.&quot;  Referring back to Paul&#039;s instruction to Timothy, &quot;lay hands on noone suddenley&quot; because if you do, you will be just as accountable, as the person you laid hands on.  Undoubtedly it is simply time for we, the people of God, to do as David did, &quot;search ME O&#039;God, try MY heart, and see if there be any wicked way in ME and lead ME in the way everlasting.&quot;  Perhaps it takes situations and incidents like this, to begin us to do so.  We can either take these situations and use it as positives, meaning learn from it, or keep it in the negative and go on and on about, and in the end theres no change but continuous rancor and anger, and where those (2) words remain theres usually no change, but justification and excuse to stay where we are.  Loving you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of God,</p>
<p>Paul instructed his (2) young pastors&#8217;, in the following:  &#8220;to lay no hands on noone suddenley&#8221;, &#8220;he is to be no novice&#8221;, and he is to be &#8220;blameless&#8221; which we know to be not &#8220;sinless&#8221;, but beyond reproach.  If were honest we nolonger want the true &#8220;pastors and teachers after God&#8217;s own heart&#8221;, but &#8220;pastors and teachers, after mans&#8217; own heart w/itchy ear messages&#8221;, I&#8217;m reminded of 1st Sam when the people said, &#8220;we want a King of our own flesh and blood&#8221; and even being warned of theses kings&#8217; nature, they said, &#8220;nay we still want a king of our own flesh and blood.&#8221;  Referring back to Paul&#8217;s instruction to Timothy, &#8220;lay hands on noone suddenley&#8221; because if you do, you will be just as accountable, as the person you laid hands on.  Undoubtedly it is simply time for we, the people of God, to do as David did, &#8220;search ME O&#8217;God, try MY heart, and see if there be any wicked way in ME and lead ME in the way everlasting.&#8221;  Perhaps it takes situations and incidents like this, to begin us to do so.  We can either take these situations and use it as positives, meaning learn from it, or keep it in the negative and go on and on about, and in the end theres no change but continuous rancor and anger, and where those (2) words remain theres usually no change, but justification and excuse to stay where we are.  Loving you all.</p>
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		<title>By: John Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11244</link>
		<dc:creator>John Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have written previously ........

This generation of hirelings are going to be replaced by a generation of wolves

Jehovah never lies and His Word is sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have written previously &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>This generation of hirelings are going to be replaced by a generation of wolves</p>
<p>Jehovah never lies and His Word is sure</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Mack E. Velly</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11243</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Mack E. Velly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro. Morris, perhaps if the church expands its interpretation of the &quot;interests of the church&quot; to include the congregants rather than just the finances and material possessions of the church, Article VIII Section D 1(i) of the church&#039;s constitution would be used to ensure the action of jurisdictional prelates on matters such as this. You are right, however, to question whether the rules can be applied equally. This is why, in my humble opinion, the rulings by the secular courts in the upcoming trials are so important as they may indirectly force the national church to expand its interpretation of its interests to include the wellbeing of its members. Or at the very least they may hold the national church accountable for the actions of pastors and bishops when it applies to abuse of members of the church. Even with a ruling against the national church, it may be some time before the effects sink in as our hierarchs seem somewhat slow to grasp the damage already done to the reputation and witness of the organisation. It is indeed sad that the secular courts may have to force the church to do what it should be doing out of Christian love, respect for the things (and people) of God and common decency.

BE WHOLE WHOLSOME and HOLY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro. Morris, perhaps if the church expands its interpretation of the &#8220;interests of the church&#8221; to include the congregants rather than just the finances and material possessions of the church, Article VIII Section D 1(i) of the church&#8217;s constitution would be used to ensure the action of jurisdictional prelates on matters such as this. You are right, however, to question whether the rules can be applied equally. This is why, in my humble opinion, the rulings by the secular courts in the upcoming trials are so important as they may indirectly force the national church to expand its interpretation of its interests to include the wellbeing of its members. Or at the very least they may hold the national church accountable for the actions of pastors and bishops when it applies to abuse of members of the church. Even with a ruling against the national church, it may be some time before the effects sink in as our hierarchs seem somewhat slow to grasp the damage already done to the reputation and witness of the organisation. It is indeed sad that the secular courts may have to force the church to do what it should be doing out of Christian love, respect for the things (and people) of God and common decency.</p>
<p>BE WHOLE WHOLSOME and HOLY</p>
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		<title>By: M.Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11242</link>
		<dc:creator>M.Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Velly, all that sounds good in theory but can it be applied with equal justice? As we all know to well those in leadership that has the power to do the right thing choses not to. Then the church congregation is left unprotected and vulnerable for the next predator to strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Velly, all that sounds good in theory but can it be applied with equal justice? As we all know to well those in leadership that has the power to do the right thing choses not to. Then the church congregation is left unprotected and vulnerable for the next predator to strike.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Mack E. Velly</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11238</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Mack E. Velly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is an issue that could and should be handled first at the jurisdictional level. As Pastor Rolfe did not adequately respond to the situation then his jurisdictional bishop, Jerry L. Maynard, should take the situation in hand. The national church may have tied its own hands with its tongue but the jurisdictional prelates should not be let off the hook as the &quot;first responders&quot; to what happens in their jurisdictions. Whatever the decision of the jurisdictional bishop, those involved in this situation need good biblical counsel and probably some degree of professional therapy. Bishops should be administrators of church affairs and pastors of pastors and as such must possess those traits that Paul outlined to both Timothy and Titus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is an issue that could and should be handled first at the jurisdictional level. As Pastor Rolfe did not adequately respond to the situation then his jurisdictional bishop, Jerry L. Maynard, should take the situation in hand. The national church may have tied its own hands with its tongue but the jurisdictional prelates should not be let off the hook as the &#8220;first responders&#8221; to what happens in their jurisdictions. Whatever the decision of the jurisdictional bishop, those involved in this situation need good biblical counsel and probably some degree of professional therapy. Bishops should be administrators of church affairs and pastors of pastors and as such must possess those traits that Paul outlined to both Timothy and Titus.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-1#comment-11226</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beloved,

I&#039;d like to thank bro., Paul N for his balanced understanding of what it was I trying to say, and thats not say noone else understood, but as I said in my earlier post sometimes anger, can get the better of our &quot;godly&quot; perspective.  For what this young man did, I did call a &quot;crime&quot; and we who are believers&#039; are to obey the &quot;laws of the land&quot; and regardless if the young lady was willing or not.  The point I was trying to make was, if we looked at it from a godly perspective, then we would know that this young lady shared responsibility and accountability as well, the word of God says, &quot;be angry, but sin not&quot;, we sin when our judgment is not clear.  The exposure of sexual immorality and all types of other sins infesting the body of Christ are definetely coming to the forefront.  It is definetely time as the apostle said, &quot;examine yourselves daily to see where you be in the faith&quot; what these (2) people have done and countless others has been exposed, what is it we have done that has yet to be exposed?  I know comments like that are not popular, being we want to concentrate moreso on the issue at hand, and not think about that which we need to get straigtened out, and that the Lord God has been bringing to our attention for closure, what &quot;strongholds&quot; are we constantly entertaining?  Some would say, &quot;I&#039;m not sticking to the subject and hand&quot;, some would even say, &quot;who do I think that, I am&quot;, I would say I&#039;m a brother in Christ who loves the Lord, and my fellow yoke fellows, w/all my heart, but desires for us to realize it is the Lord who is exposing us to such magnitude, as He did w/ancient Israel, so He does w/us, unlike us the Lord is not partial and bias in His actions for He is &quot;SOVEREIGN.&quot;  All that I have said is summed up in (1) verse of scripture, &quot;If my people who are called by my name, would humble themselves (PLURAL) seek my face and pray, and turn from their (PLURAL) wicked ways.  I would hear from heaven and heal there land.&quot;  Loving you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beloved,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to thank bro., Paul N for his balanced understanding of what it was I trying to say, and thats not say noone else understood, but as I said in my earlier post sometimes anger, can get the better of our &#8220;godly&#8221; perspective.  For what this young man did, I did call a &#8220;crime&#8221; and we who are believers&#8217; are to obey the &#8220;laws of the land&#8221; and regardless if the young lady was willing or not.  The point I was trying to make was, if we looked at it from a godly perspective, then we would know that this young lady shared responsibility and accountability as well, the word of God says, &#8220;be angry, but sin not&#8221;, we sin when our judgment is not clear.  The exposure of sexual immorality and all types of other sins infesting the body of Christ are definetely coming to the forefront.  It is definetely time as the apostle said, &#8220;examine yourselves daily to see where you be in the faith&#8221; what these (2) people have done and countless others has been exposed, what is it we have done that has yet to be exposed?  I know comments like that are not popular, being we want to concentrate moreso on the issue at hand, and not think about that which we need to get straigtened out, and that the Lord God has been bringing to our attention for closure, what &#8220;strongholds&#8221; are we constantly entertaining?  Some would say, &#8220;I&#8217;m not sticking to the subject and hand&#8221;, some would even say, &#8220;who do I think that, I am&#8221;, I would say I&#8217;m a brother in Christ who loves the Lord, and my fellow yoke fellows, w/all my heart, but desires for us to realize it is the Lord who is exposing us to such magnitude, as He did w/ancient Israel, so He does w/us, unlike us the Lord is not partial and bias in His actions for He is &#8220;SOVEREIGN.&#8221;  All that I have said is summed up in (1) verse of scripture, &#8220;If my people who are called by my name, would humble themselves (PLURAL) seek my face and pray, and turn from their (PLURAL) wicked ways.  I would hear from heaven and heal there land.&#8221;  Loving you all.</p>
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		<title>By: melvin jones</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-1#comment-11224</link>
		<dc:creator>melvin jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God and our Lord Jesus Christ bless Pastor Foster and your website for taking the bold and couragous stand against clergy in higher places that are compromisers, traitors and lukewarm leaders.  Many of these way ward leaders are the reasons for the rise in immorality, same sex marriage and abortion rights politicians, and the money hungry and corrupt behaviour in our honorable pulpits. Leaders like Bishop Blake and other denomination heads are luke warm to hazarous issues affecting the church. I do not like to attack our head leaders and there are many great and honest ministers of the gospel, but certain leaders need to be exposed, and thanks for exposing these leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God and our Lord Jesus Christ bless Pastor Foster and your website for taking the bold and couragous stand against clergy in higher places that are compromisers, traitors and lukewarm leaders.  Many of these way ward leaders are the reasons for the rise in immorality, same sex marriage and abortion rights politicians, and the money hungry and corrupt behaviour in our honorable pulpits. Leaders like Bishop Blake and other denomination heads are luke warm to hazarous issues affecting the church. I do not like to attack our head leaders and there are many great and honest ministers of the gospel, but certain leaders need to be exposed, and thanks for exposing these leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: gcmwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-1#comment-11222</link>
		<dc:creator>gcmwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Burnett, youre right. They CANT remove Rolfe or Wilson because if they do, it will only prove that Enoch Perry lied under oath in the Sherman Allen deposition. Maynard also has zero moral authority to intervene.

Wilson is a bit player. But look at the weakness of leadership to even deal with that. Instead of using scripture to protect the spiritual integrity of the church,its used to protect &quot;name, image and assets&quot;.

Id like to see Derrick Hutchins explain this one.

This is why this church will continue to be ravaged by the wickedness of sexual sins. Those in power have no authority (or will) to effect change and those who are not direct partakers are silent and complicit for all the wrong reasons.

Its as clear as the sun in the sky on a hot July day.

This case unfortunately highlights the complete inefficacy of COGIC leadership. The only thing they seem to have enabled themselves to do is take the property of local churches to ensure the treasury has enough money to pay for sexual abuse claims.

The emperor is completely naked now. Sad and tragic that he continues to parade around like a peacock in a zoo claiming to be the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Burnett, youre right. They CANT remove Rolfe or Wilson because if they do, it will only prove that Enoch Perry lied under oath in the Sherman Allen deposition. Maynard also has zero moral authority to intervene.</p>
<p>Wilson is a bit player. But look at the weakness of leadership to even deal with that. Instead of using scripture to protect the spiritual integrity of the church,its used to protect &#8220;name, image and assets&#8221;.</p>
<p>Id like to see Derrick Hutchins explain this one.</p>
<p>This is why this church will continue to be ravaged by the wickedness of sexual sins. Those in power have no authority (or will) to effect change and those who are not direct partakers are silent and complicit for all the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>Its as clear as the sun in the sky on a hot July day.</p>
<p>This case unfortunately highlights the complete inefficacy of COGIC leadership. The only thing they seem to have enabled themselves to do is take the property of local churches to ensure the treasury has enough money to pay for sexual abuse claims.</p>
<p>The emperor is completely naked now. Sad and tragic that he continues to parade around like a peacock in a zoo claiming to be the greatest.</p>
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