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	<title>Comments on: Commercial Appeal: COGIC minister arrested for rape of 16 year girl *updated*</title>
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		<title>By: Broderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to me on many levels how much the &quot;church is allowing to come in.  The spirit of wordliness has crept into the sanctuary and the shepherds are either sleep or too dumb to recognize the danger that the flock is in.  When I came to the Lord a long time ago people were asking God what can I give up to get closer to you.  It seems in the permissive and lack age that people are now asking &quot;how much can I do before it&#039;s considered crossing the line.&quot;  I see we are living in an age where saints are considering themselves &quot;sexy&quot; What would Jesus say about all of the mess that is going on in our churches today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to me on many levels how much the &#8220;church is allowing to come in.  The spirit of wordliness has crept into the sanctuary and the shepherds are either sleep or too dumb to recognize the danger that the flock is in.  When I came to the Lord a long time ago people were asking God what can I give up to get closer to you.  It seems in the permissive and lack age that people are now asking &#8220;how much can I do before it&#8217;s considered crossing the line.&#8221;  I see we are living in an age where saints are considering themselves &#8220;sexy&#8221; What would Jesus say about all of the mess that is going on in our churches today.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11283</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi GCM Watch
I am blessed by your site and John Miller prophecy is a stark warning to us.

I have a request. The church that I attend does not have a Ministerial Code of Conduct and as a consequence there has been every kind of abuse known:

sexual
financial
emotional
mental
physical

and the ministers are held above reproach, regardless of their sin.

It is on my heart to write a Policy to protect the flock against the many &#039;wolves&#039; that hide behind dog-collars. I am of the view that there is an unbalanced ethos within our churches towards the leadership and the laity are being exploited and abused. Don&#039;t get me wrong government is important in our churches but the unaccountable dictatorship are way outside of what Christ came to establish. 

So what I am asking is support in framing this Policy and I will donate  the copyrights of the Policy to this site, so that others can address some of the imbalances within our church. I already have a basic framework but any help would be appreciated.

E-mail address supplied</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi GCM Watch<br />
I am blessed by your site and John Miller prophecy is a stark warning to us.</p>
<p>I have a request. The church that I attend does not have a Ministerial Code of Conduct and as a consequence there has been every kind of abuse known:</p>
<p>sexual<br />
financial<br />
emotional<br />
mental<br />
physical</p>
<p>and the ministers are held above reproach, regardless of their sin.</p>
<p>It is on my heart to write a Policy to protect the flock against the many &#8216;wolves&#8217; that hide behind dog-collars. I am of the view that there is an unbalanced ethos within our churches towards the leadership and the laity are being exploited and abused. Don&#8217;t get me wrong government is important in our churches but the unaccountable dictatorship are way outside of what Christ came to establish. </p>
<p>So what I am asking is support in framing this Policy and I will donate  the copyrights of the Policy to this site, so that others can address some of the imbalances within our church. I already have a basic framework but any help would be appreciated.</p>
<p>E-mail address supplied</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People of God,

Paul instructed his (2) young pastors&#039;, in the following:  &quot;to lay no hands on noone suddenley&quot;, &quot;he is to be no novice&quot;, and he is to be &quot;blameless&quot; which we know to be not &quot;sinless&quot;, but beyond reproach.  If were honest we nolonger want the true &quot;pastors and teachers after God&#039;s own heart&quot;, but &quot;pastors and teachers, after mans&#039; own heart w/itchy ear messages&quot;, I&#039;m reminded of 1st Sam when the people said, &quot;we want a King of our own flesh and blood&quot; and even being warned of theses kings&#039; nature, they said, &quot;nay we still want a king of our own flesh and blood.&quot;  Referring back to Paul&#039;s instruction to Timothy, &quot;lay hands on noone suddenley&quot; because if you do, you will be just as accountable, as the person you laid hands on.  Undoubtedly it is simply time for we, the people of God, to do as David did, &quot;search ME O&#039;God, try MY heart, and see if there be any wicked way in ME and lead ME in the way everlasting.&quot;  Perhaps it takes situations and incidents like this, to begin us to do so.  We can either take these situations and use it as positives, meaning learn from it, or keep it in the negative and go on and on about, and in the end theres no change but continuous rancor and anger, and where those (2) words remain theres usually no change, but justification and excuse to stay where we are.  Loving you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of God,</p>
<p>Paul instructed his (2) young pastors&#8217;, in the following:  &#8220;to lay no hands on noone suddenley&#8221;, &#8220;he is to be no novice&#8221;, and he is to be &#8220;blameless&#8221; which we know to be not &#8220;sinless&#8221;, but beyond reproach.  If were honest we nolonger want the true &#8220;pastors and teachers after God&#8217;s own heart&#8221;, but &#8220;pastors and teachers, after mans&#8217; own heart w/itchy ear messages&#8221;, I&#8217;m reminded of 1st Sam when the people said, &#8220;we want a King of our own flesh and blood&#8221; and even being warned of theses kings&#8217; nature, they said, &#8220;nay we still want a king of our own flesh and blood.&#8221;  Referring back to Paul&#8217;s instruction to Timothy, &#8220;lay hands on noone suddenley&#8221; because if you do, you will be just as accountable, as the person you laid hands on.  Undoubtedly it is simply time for we, the people of God, to do as David did, &#8220;search ME O&#8217;God, try MY heart, and see if there be any wicked way in ME and lead ME in the way everlasting.&#8221;  Perhaps it takes situations and incidents like this, to begin us to do so.  We can either take these situations and use it as positives, meaning learn from it, or keep it in the negative and go on and on about, and in the end theres no change but continuous rancor and anger, and where those (2) words remain theres usually no change, but justification and excuse to stay where we are.  Loving you all.</p>
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		<title>By: John Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11244</link>
		<dc:creator>John Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have written previously ........

This generation of hirelings are going to be replaced by a generation of wolves

Jehovah never lies and His Word is sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have written previously &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>This generation of hirelings are going to be replaced by a generation of wolves</p>
<p>Jehovah never lies and His Word is sure</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Mack E. Velly</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11243</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Mack E. Velly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro. Morris, perhaps if the church expands its interpretation of the &quot;interests of the church&quot; to include the congregants rather than just the finances and material possessions of the church, Article VIII Section D 1(i) of the church&#039;s constitution would be used to ensure the action of jurisdictional prelates on matters such as this. You are right, however, to question whether the rules can be applied equally. This is why, in my humble opinion, the rulings by the secular courts in the upcoming trials are so important as they may indirectly force the national church to expand its interpretation of its interests to include the wellbeing of its members. Or at the very least they may hold the national church accountable for the actions of pastors and bishops when it applies to abuse of members of the church. Even with a ruling against the national church, it may be some time before the effects sink in as our hierarchs seem somewhat slow to grasp the damage already done to the reputation and witness of the organisation. It is indeed sad that the secular courts may have to force the church to do what it should be doing out of Christian love, respect for the things (and people) of God and common decency.

BE WHOLE WHOLSOME and HOLY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro. Morris, perhaps if the church expands its interpretation of the &#8220;interests of the church&#8221; to include the congregants rather than just the finances and material possessions of the church, Article VIII Section D 1(i) of the church&#8217;s constitution would be used to ensure the action of jurisdictional prelates on matters such as this. You are right, however, to question whether the rules can be applied equally. This is why, in my humble opinion, the rulings by the secular courts in the upcoming trials are so important as they may indirectly force the national church to expand its interpretation of its interests to include the wellbeing of its members. Or at the very least they may hold the national church accountable for the actions of pastors and bishops when it applies to abuse of members of the church. Even with a ruling against the national church, it may be some time before the effects sink in as our hierarchs seem somewhat slow to grasp the damage already done to the reputation and witness of the organisation. It is indeed sad that the secular courts may have to force the church to do what it should be doing out of Christian love, respect for the things (and people) of God and common decency.</p>
<p>BE WHOLE WHOLSOME and HOLY</p>
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		<title>By: M.Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/3846/commercial-appeal-cogic-minister-arrested-for-rape-of-16-year-girl/comment-page-2#comment-11242</link>
		<dc:creator>M.Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Velly, all that sounds good in theory but can it be applied with equal justice? As we all know to well those in leadership that has the power to do the right thing choses not to. Then the church congregation is left unprotected and vulnerable for the next predator to strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Velly, all that sounds good in theory but can it be applied with equal justice? As we all know to well those in leadership that has the power to do the right thing choses not to. Then the church congregation is left unprotected and vulnerable for the next predator to strike.</p>
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