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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15409</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandals,

I see where you were saying the bible accepts slavery, domestic volence and concubines.  I must tell, the bible, nor its author the Lord God, supports neither of these.  If you read carefully, the issue of slavery, is talked about in these terms, the master is to treat his slave, w/love, kindness and gentleness, cruelty of one&#039;s slave is condemned.  When treated w/dignity as God presribed, the slave many times desired to stay w/there master, because there master loved them, and they there master, also try to remember when reading/studying the bible understand the culture and times of antiquity.  I&#039;m sure you are employed as I am, if we were living in that time, the employer/employee concept, as it is this day would be looked upon as the same.

Domestic violence is condemned, a man was and is required to love his wife w/love and tenderness, nurturing one another, and if the woman was not married, the same courtesy was to be afforded her, unless found guility of adultery and other abominations, which both man and woman, were severally dealt with if found guility.  And if they both were found guility, it was to be more than one witness, and in the end the One who sees all renders the final verdict.

Polygamy is never sanctioned, a man is to have only one wife, in both OT/NT.  Friend man was created upright, but we chose death instead of life, and I say we because, sin was imputed to us through Adam, but praise be to God righteousness was imputed to us through Jesus Christ.  Your addressing these issues and claiming the Word of God to be faulty, I understand, because I too at one time, was a critic also, telling people the bible says this, and that, but wasn&#039;t trying to live it myself.  But when I allowed the Spirit of Christ to open my eyes, as I pray you also will come to, sooner than I did.  Upon allowing this supernatural act, and thats what it was, to change my hypocrital and cynical mind, I saw exactly who I really was.  I recommend you also read about another cynical and hypocrital person, who was said to have one of the most brilliant and imaginative minds, of the last century, his name, C. S. Lewis.  He found out the same thing, and I and countless others have, it was he, who was faulty and countradictory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandals,</p>
<p>I see where you were saying the bible accepts slavery, domestic volence and concubines.  I must tell, the bible, nor its author the Lord God, supports neither of these.  If you read carefully, the issue of slavery, is talked about in these terms, the master is to treat his slave, w/love, kindness and gentleness, cruelty of one&#8217;s slave is condemned.  When treated w/dignity as God presribed, the slave many times desired to stay w/there master, because there master loved them, and they there master, also try to remember when reading/studying the bible understand the culture and times of antiquity.  I&#8217;m sure you are employed as I am, if we were living in that time, the employer/employee concept, as it is this day would be looked upon as the same.</p>
<p>Domestic violence is condemned, a man was and is required to love his wife w/love and tenderness, nurturing one another, and if the woman was not married, the same courtesy was to be afforded her, unless found guility of adultery and other abominations, which both man and woman, were severally dealt with if found guility.  And if they both were found guility, it was to be more than one witness, and in the end the One who sees all renders the final verdict.</p>
<p>Polygamy is never sanctioned, a man is to have only one wife, in both OT/NT.  Friend man was created upright, but we chose death instead of life, and I say we because, sin was imputed to us through Adam, but praise be to God righteousness was imputed to us through Jesus Christ.  Your addressing these issues and claiming the Word of God to be faulty, I understand, because I too at one time, was a critic also, telling people the bible says this, and that, but wasn&#8217;t trying to live it myself.  But when I allowed the Spirit of Christ to open my eyes, as I pray you also will come to, sooner than I did.  Upon allowing this supernatural act, and thats what it was, to change my hypocrital and cynical mind, I saw exactly who I really was.  I recommend you also read about another cynical and hypocrital person, who was said to have one of the most brilliant and imaginative minds, of the last century, his name, C. S. Lewis.  He found out the same thing, and I and countless others have, it was he, who was faulty and countradictory.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15367</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For one I had a problem with this article from the beginning.  

&quot;She says that most biblical translations only refer to homosexual sexual behavior not homosexual orientation.” 

When a person is gay, doesn&#039;t that mean that they are taking place in homosexual behavior?  And in the biblical sense that would be wrong.  So they are saying basically that if you are gay that is totally cool.  You just can&#039;t marry anyone, because in marriage there is sex and sexual things happen between gay people and to me that is homosexual behavior.  That seems backwards thinking to me and a horrible argument.  I am not trying to sound mean, I just do not understand the logic on that.  

Also, Romans 1 verses 26 through 31 says 

 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God&#039;s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. (NIV) 

I just want clarification on as to why these things are refuted with back sided arguments.  I think that the bible plainly states things about the behavior and the fact that it is wrong.  I think that it goes with out saying that people who do such things are wrong in the lifestyle because the acts are wrong.

That is just how my brain works I guess.  

Let me know what i did wrong or what not??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For one I had a problem with this article from the beginning.  </p>
<p>&#8220;She says that most biblical translations only refer to homosexual sexual behavior not homosexual orientation.” </p>
<p>When a person is gay, doesn&#8217;t that mean that they are taking place in homosexual behavior?  And in the biblical sense that would be wrong.  So they are saying basically that if you are gay that is totally cool.  You just can&#8217;t marry anyone, because in marriage there is sex and sexual things happen between gay people and to me that is homosexual behavior.  That seems backwards thinking to me and a horrible argument.  I am not trying to sound mean, I just do not understand the logic on that.  </p>
<p>Also, Romans 1 verses 26 through 31 says </p>
<p> Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.</p>
<p> Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God&#8217;s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. (NIV) </p>
<p>I just want clarification on as to why these things are refuted with back sided arguments.  I think that the bible plainly states things about the behavior and the fact that it is wrong.  I think that it goes with out saying that people who do such things are wrong in the lifestyle because the acts are wrong.</p>
<p>That is just how my brain works I guess.  </p>
<p>Let me know what i did wrong or what not??</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15315</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandals,

I see where you were saying the bible accepts slavery, domestic volence and concubines.  I must tell, the bible, nor its author the Lord God, supports neither of these.  If you read carefully, the issue of slavery, is talked about in these terms, the master is to treat his slave, w/love, kindness and gentleness, cruelty of one&#039;s slave is condemned.  When treated w/dignity as God presribed, the slave many times desired to stay w/there master, because there master loved them, and they there master, also try to remember when reading/studying the bible understand the culture and times of antiquity.  I&#039;m sure you are employed as I am, if we were living in that time, the employer/employee concept, as it is this day would be looked upon as the same.

Domestic violence is condemned, a man was and is required to love his wife w/love and tenderness, nurturing one another, and if the woman was not married, the same courtesy was to be afforded her, unless found guility of adultery and other abominations, which both man and woman, were severally dealt with if found guility.  And if they both were found guility, it was to be more than one witness, and in the end the One who sees all renders the final verdict.

Polygamy is never sanctioned, a man is to have only one wife, in both OT/NT.  Friend man was created upright, but we chose death instead of life, and I say we because, sin was imputed to us through Adam, but praise be to God righteousness was imputed to us through Jesus Christ.  Your addressing these issues and claiming the Word of God to be faulty, I understand, because I too at one time, was a critic also, telling people the bible says this, and that, but wasn&#039;t trying to live it myself.  But when I allowed the Spirit of Christ to open my eyes, as I pray you also will come to, sooner than I did.  Upon allowing this supernatural act, and thats what it was, to change my hypocrital and cynical mind, I saw exactly who I really was.  I recommend you also read about another cynical and hypocrital person, who was said to have one of the most brilliant and imaginative minds, of the last century, his name, C. S. Lewis.  He found out the same thing, and I and countless others have, it was he, who was faulty and countradictory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandals,</p>
<p>I see where you were saying the bible accepts slavery, domestic volence and concubines.  I must tell, the bible, nor its author the Lord God, supports neither of these.  If you read carefully, the issue of slavery, is talked about in these terms, the master is to treat his slave, w/love, kindness and gentleness, cruelty of one&#8217;s slave is condemned.  When treated w/dignity as God presribed, the slave many times desired to stay w/there master, because there master loved them, and they there master, also try to remember when reading/studying the bible understand the culture and times of antiquity.  I&#8217;m sure you are employed as I am, if we were living in that time, the employer/employee concept, as it is this day would be looked upon as the same.</p>
<p>Domestic violence is condemned, a man was and is required to love his wife w/love and tenderness, nurturing one another, and if the woman was not married, the same courtesy was to be afforded her, unless found guility of adultery and other abominations, which both man and woman, were severally dealt with if found guility.  And if they both were found guility, it was to be more than one witness, and in the end the One who sees all renders the final verdict.</p>
<p>Polygamy is never sanctioned, a man is to have only one wife, in both OT/NT.  Friend man was created upright, but we chose death instead of life, and I say we because, sin was imputed to us through Adam, but praise be to God righteousness was imputed to us through Jesus Christ.  Your addressing these issues and claiming the Word of God to be faulty, I understand, because I too at one time, was a critic also, telling people the bible says this, and that, but wasn&#8217;t trying to live it myself.  But when I allowed the Spirit of Christ to open my eyes, as I pray you also will come to, sooner than I did.  Upon allowing this supernatural act, and thats what it was, to change my hypocrital and cynical mind, I saw exactly who I really was.  I recommend you also read about another cynical and hypocrital person, who was said to have one of the most brilliant and imaginative minds, of the last century, his name, C. S. Lewis.  He found out the same thing, and I and countless others have, it was he, who was faulty and countradictory.</p>
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		<title>By: Lay Minister</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15303</link>
		<dc:creator>Lay Minister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How it happens...

I came to the Bible.  I found the Word of God.  I found Christ.  I found the church.  I was changed.  Thanks be to God!

IT IS NOT...

I changed the Bible. I changed the Word of God/ess. I changed Christ. I changed it all. Thanks be to Me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How it happens&#8230;</p>
<p>I came to the Bible.  I found the Word of God.  I found Christ.  I found the church.  I was changed.  Thanks be to God!</p>
<p>IT IS NOT&#8230;</p>
<p>I changed the Bible. I changed the Word of God/ess. I changed Christ. I changed it all. Thanks be to Me!</p>
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		<title>By: sandals</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15286</link>
		<dc:creator>sandals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my reading of the Bible I see a condemnation of homosexual behavior, but the concept of sexual orientation is missing.  This isn&#039;t terribly surprising since I do think the concept of an &quot;orientation&quot; is a relatively new one.  

But the Bible is completely accepting of slaves and concubines domestic abuse, so I would say that using the actual written word of the Bible as a rubric for acceptable behavior is a risky proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my reading of the Bible I see a condemnation of homosexual behavior, but the concept of sexual orientation is missing.  This isn&#8217;t terribly surprising since I do think the concept of an &#8220;orientation&#8221; is a relatively new one.  </p>
<p>But the Bible is completely accepting of slaves and concubines domestic abuse, so I would say that using the actual written word of the Bible as a rubric for acceptable behavior is a risky proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.gcmwatch.com/4300/sexual-orientation/comment-page-1#comment-15282</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for biblical quotes in the article that condemn homosexuality, but the ones provided did not do that. They condemn only temptation and sin. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for biblical quotes in the article that condemn homosexuality, but the ones provided did not do that. They condemn only temptation and sin. Why?</p>
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