Comments on: Wanted: A radical return to holiness http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Dee Dee http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16985 Dee Dee Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:04:20 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16985 Carol I agree with you. Tonex joined an existing problem within the church. COGIC has been unmindful and spiritually re-missed in the way they have dealt with (abused)their children. See this clip from one of the conventions in Memphis. I am happy to see someone finally giving voice to the problem that has existed for way to long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcRHrTpYh8 Carol I agree with you. Tonex joined an existing problem within the church. COGIC has been unmindful and spiritually re-missed in the way they have dealt with (abused)their children. See this clip from one of the conventions in Memphis. I am happy to see someone finally giving voice to the problem that has existed for way to long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcRHrTpYh8

]]> By: Dee Dee http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16984 Dee Dee Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:48:13 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16984 I grew up in COGIC, and I am extremely disappointed in the organization. My father was a minister-pastor in the organization for over four decades. However, because he was a man of integrity, he was kept on the outskirts of the political structure of the church (which turned out to be a real blessing). However, when someone needed sound biblical teachings, and serious prayer for healing they always called on him. I am happy to hear Bishop Hines teaching on holiness. He appears to be a man of integrity. However, I don't know how high you can climb the "COGIC church corporate ladder" without becoming corrupted. They tend to "bar" ministers who disagree with leadership that participates in and turns a blind eye to rampant homosexuality within the church (at all levels)and misappropriation of church funds. I grew up in COGIC, and I am extremely disappointed in the organization. My father was a minister-pastor in the organization for over four decades. However, because he was a man of integrity, he was kept on the outskirts of the political structure of the church (which turned out to be a real blessing). However, when someone needed sound biblical teachings, and serious prayer for healing they always called on him.

I am happy to hear Bishop Hines teaching on holiness. He appears to be a man of integrity. However, I don’t know how high you can climb the “COGIC church corporate ladder” without becoming corrupted. They tend to “bar” ministers who disagree with leadership that participates in and turns a blind eye to rampant homosexuality within the church (at all levels)and misappropriation of church funds.

]]> By: Holiness and Revival http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16983 Holiness and Revival Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:54:18 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16983 <strong>Holiness and Revival...</strong> Where have you been all my life? Fantastic site and all my queries resolved. Duncan Hopeman... Holiness and Revival…

Where have you been all my life? Fantastic site and all my queries resolved. Duncan Hopeman…

]]> By: gcmwatch http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16911 gcmwatch Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:30:07 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16911 It really doesnt matter if he started it or joined it, he is contributing to it. But interesting POV Carol and I agree Bishop Hines should indeed be speaking out against the clergy sexual abuse. I dont think he will as it may kill any political aspirations he may have in COGIC. For the ecclesiastical ladder climbers, that means everything. It really doesnt matter if he started it or joined it, he is contributing to it.
But interesting POV Carol and I agree Bishop Hines should indeed be speaking out against the clergy sexual abuse. I dont think he will as it may kill any political aspirations he may have in COGIC. For the ecclesiastical ladder climbers, that means everything.

]]> By: Carol Taylor http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16910 Carol Taylor Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:31:53 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16910 Tonex did not start this unholiness, he just joined it. Furthermore, Pastor HInes should be speaking out and against all of the sexual abuse that has been going on in the Big Ole COGIC. Al of this madness is coming for the top clergy not the bottom! They all love their money and will continue to peddle the gospel. That is what I want to hear people speak out against, not some little Tonex who joined the already existing problems. Tonex did not start this unholiness, he just joined it. Furthermore, Pastor HInes should be speaking out and against all of the sexual abuse that has been going on in the Big Ole COGIC.

Al of this madness is coming for the top clergy not the bottom!
They all love their money and will continue to peddle the gospel.
That is what I want to hear people speak out against, not some little Tonex who joined the already existing problems.

]]> By: Minister Jeffrey Patterson http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness/comment-page-1#comment-16838 Minister Jeffrey Patterson Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:36:55 +0000 http://www.gcmwatch.com/?p=4843#comment-16838 I agree with Bishop Hines whom is a member of COGIC that same Church that is lead by the evil Bishop Blake according to GCM and he's also the chairmen of the mens ministry. We can no longer play church we as leaders must tell the people the truth whether we want to hear it or not. I'm striving to be like Christ and love everyone and hate the sin, you see thats how God see's us all he loves us as person as a creation but hate all of the sin we committ. When in a large organization like COGIC and the Catholic Churches exist there will be people who take advantage of others through abuse of power and this is not an excuse, we made alot of mistakes trying to shield the church from scandal that would cripple the good that the church done and in the process of doing through Charity works both home and abroad. We can not Demanize churches for the mistakes they made to deal with one sin to allow another sin to enter the church. Homoseaxuallity is indeed a sin as it is written in the Bible. God did not create us as sexual beings put created sex as a tool to continue to populate the earth thats why he create woman for the purpose of companionship so Adam would not be by himself. In no way did Bishop Hines accepted your lifesyle as being Holy. What he meant is that we need to lower the tone of anger about our different veiws, but we can not accept what is written in the Bible to be wrong to enter into our churches. I understand as a african american how it feels to want to be accepted when your the minority but I can not justify accepting your lifestyle no more than the lifesytle of a sex abuser, liar, or someone who worship idiols we must preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christ had 12 special deciplies and those 12 had problems that they had to overcome so if they can change I Know that you can change your lifestyle Philiphians 4:13 say's "I can do all things through christ that strenghtens me" so ask for strenght and he will change you lifestyle. May God bless you and I Love you all with the love of Christ I agree with Bishop Hines whom is a member of COGIC that same Church that is lead by the evil Bishop Blake according to GCM and he’s also the chairmen of the mens ministry.
We can no longer play church we as leaders must tell the people the truth whether we want to hear it or not. I’m striving to be like Christ and love everyone and hate the sin, you see thats how God see’s us all he loves us as person as a creation but hate all of the sin we committ. When in a large organization like COGIC and the Catholic Churches exist there will be people who take advantage of others through abuse of power and this is not an excuse, we made alot of mistakes trying to shield the church from scandal that would cripple the good that the church done and in the process of doing through Charity works both home and abroad. We can not Demanize churches for the mistakes they made to deal with one sin to allow another sin to enter the church.

Homoseaxuallity is indeed a sin as it is written in the Bible. God did not create us as sexual beings put created sex as a tool to continue to populate the earth thats why he create woman for the purpose of companionship so Adam would not be by himself. In no way did Bishop Hines accepted your lifesyle as being Holy. What he meant is that we need to lower the tone of anger about our different veiws, but we can not accept what is written in the Bible to be wrong to enter into our churches. I understand as a african american how it feels to want to be accepted when your the minority but I can not justify accepting your lifestyle no more than the lifesytle of a sex abuser, liar, or someone who worship idiols we must preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christ had 12 special deciplies and those 12 had problems that they had to overcome so if they can change I Know that you can change your lifestyle Philiphians 4:13 say’s “I can do all things through christ that strenghtens me” so ask for strenght and he will change you lifestyle. May God bless you and I Love you all with the love of Christ

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