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That’s the question Dr. Michael Brown is asking in his latest commentary on BarbedWire. The MIA phenom among religious gay activists is something GCMW has noticed as well.
If you believe you are on the side of truth, you need not be insecure.
Then why are “gay Christian” activists and theologians so unwilling to debate the issues publicly? Why do they consistently refuse public dialogue, especially when those who want to dialogue with them are committed to doing so with civility and grace?
Bear in mind that they are writing books, preaching messages, using social media, and holding conferences, all with the goal of actively challenging the views of conservative followers of Jesus, seeking to overturn the Word and 2,000 years of consistent Church tradition. Yet at the same time, when openly invited to debate their controversial new viewpoints, they grow silent. Why?”
We’ve seen them pop up and down almost like jack in the boxes as if they are afraid their shallow logic and superficial religious platitudes cannot stand the white hot scrutiny of the truth. In fact, one of the tainted fathers of the gay christian movement, pointedly told them “don’t discuss the bible”. Mel White told attendees at a Soulforce conference to opt out of discussions about the bible with “Conservative Christians”. Writes Karen Keen:
“After debriefing the “chalk-talk” experience, we are sent off to our first workshop. I decide to attend, “What the Bible Says and Doesn’t Say About Homosexuality” presented by Rev. Nancy Wilson and Rev. Dr. Mel White. Mel White is a passionate and articulate man who makes it clear from the beginning of the workshop that he has absolutely no desire whatsoever to discuss the biblical passages on homosexuality. Over the years he has suffered a barrage of debates on the issue and he is thoroughly burnt out. He refuses to engage in the discussion any longer. Instead, he passes out a booklet he has written on the subject and tells us to read it. Then, he encourages us to refrain from discussing the Bible with conservative Christians because fundamentalists have no interest in sincere dialogue. Mel also encourages us not to engage in the debate for another reason. By having the conversation, we expose ourselves over and over again to the “lie” that homosexuality is wrong, and when heard repeatedly, “deep down inside you will wonder if they are right.”
We’ve pointed out numerous times how the cookie cutter style comments of gay christians are devoid of scripture. While we believe that extra-biblical resources are welcome compliments to scriptural enlightenment, the line of acceptance is drawn when any resource conflicts with clear foundational teachings of the Bible. With that being said, and despite our critics charge of “bible worship”, even the average Christian accepts that the Bible is our blueprint, our “magna carta”. Therefore, Christians fully assimilate its language, concepts and principles into our vocabulary and more importantly how we live. But we don’t find this bond with God’s Word when it comes to the gay christian movement. But don’t be surprised, this is no mere coincidence.
Karen Keen who attended the event noted the bizarre interpretations gay christian leaders made about the scriptures. At the same event Nancy Elder, chief of the Metropolitan Community Church said the magi or three wise men were homosexuals and that its okay to use one’s “imagination” when reading and interpreting the Bible.
After pressuring him for a reason for an agreement to debate, Matthew Vines, the gay christian movement’s false teacher du jour, finally told Dr. James White why he was putting debates with opposing Christians on the skids:
“I am happy to do dialogues, debates, etc., with anyone when I feel that the event is likely to be constructive, respectful, and relationship-building. I did a ‘debate’ with Michael Brown this summer that was largely a waste of time, because Brown is not interested in listening to and learning from LGBT people, only pontificating about them.”
Its important to note Matthew Vines has been crisscrossing the country proclaiming his readiness to challenge the church’s teachings. But when the challenge confronts him, we find out he doesn’t like it when people won’t “learn from him”.
Using parallels with the people who built the tower of Babel, noted revivalist John Burton of Detroit reveals in Charisma Magazine a brutally honest portrait of the homosexual movement’s social agenda along with nine “prophetic keys” that can restrain its power. If you’re sick of the Osteenish type of equivocation , read on and equip yourself.
We agree with Pastor Burton: we are at war! Too many Christians still fail to see homosexuality and its destructive agenda as the foremost threat to the spiritual health and welfare of the church. That ignorance works to the advantage of the church’s enemies. Because the church is the last line of defense against this agenda’s insatiable lust for dominance, multiple strategies have been launched to break those defenses.
Its important for faithful Christians opposed to the homosexual agenda to know its not our charge to eradicate sin of any kind. We need not fret ourselves over laws passed. Remember they passed laws against Daniel, and it looked like his opponents had won a great victory over his refusal to obey the unjust law. But we all know how that turned out. Our responsibility is to restrain and restrict sin’s growth and influence. We accomplish this by being what Jesus identified as “salt and light” in Matthew 5:13-16. Such sin retardants have profound affect on the greater good. Unrestrained sin with no Christians is like a forest fire with no firefighters.
Burton shares insight and a harder strategic response needed in this season. “God opened up a powerful strategy to disrupt the momentum of the homosexual agenda to me—and a successful campaign will result in innumerable people set free.”, he says.
Barton believes this strategy will set people free if the church can unify around it. That may be the most difficult part of the strategy is unity. Our unity was the first defense attacked and it has not yet recovered. There is a growing schism —a spiritual civil war if you will— on the issue of homosexuality and its parent problem the authority and credibility of scripture.
The agenda of the gay movement is patently deceptive because the spirit controlling it is deceptive. Deception is primarily a spiritual issue which must be fought with spiritual weapons.
“The gay agenda is driven by a spirit. We must keep this in mind. Of course, we don’t wrestle with people. We wrestle with unholy spirits. But it’s true that many people are in alliance with those very spirits we are battling, so it’s unfortunately common for there to be collateral damage. Don’t mistake that collateral damage with fighting against flesh and blood. When we deal with evil spirits, those who renounce them will be set free, while those who embrace them will experience their judgment.”
In the conspiracy, Burton has also spotted the gay christian movement. Its role as favored religious aberration by the political homosexual movement is unmistakable.
When they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens… —Gen.11:4a
The goal then was to take dominion, and that’s the goal now. The city represents the plan to spread horizontally around the world—to see homosexuality become not only accepted, but the primary leader of humanity. This spirit doesn’t simply want to be affirmed—it wants to dominate. The tower represents a connection with heaven. The “gay Christian” movement is moving at the speed of light—and even the most biblically sound arguments against it are not convincing those who are seduced by this spirit. The unity is too strong, and the response of the church has been too weak. This simultaneous horizontal and vertical advance of the homosexual movement is brilliant, though not original. We saw it at Babel, and we’ll see it again at the end of the age.
Some Christians ad social conservatives are already conceding that social issues such as homosexual marriage, like abortion, will eventually become the law of the land. When it occurs that doesn’t mean the fight has been lost but rather that ultimate victory is nearer than we may imagine. According to Jesus, the widespread proliferation of perversion is not a victory for its supporters, its a sign to its opponents that our redemption is nigh.
Even with this in mind our response is never to retreat to isolationist positions deep in religious ghettos called churches. The Jews of the Warsaw ghetto showed us that no matter how great the odds against us, they are temporary. Evil may indeed appear to triumph for a season. When we will have done all we are charged to do, what remains is in the hands of our sovereign God.
Responding to the announcement of religious singer Vicky Beeching’ that she was a lesbian and a newly minted gay christian, Dr Brown said “And so, once more, we see the fundamental error of ‘gay Christianity,’ namely, people interpreting the Bible through the lens of their sexuality rather than interpreting their sexuality through the lens of the Bible. FULL RESPONSE
San Francisco based author Erik F. Wait has jumped to the forefront of scholarly exposition on gay christian theology with his new book Do Not Be Deceived: A Christian Worldview Response to Gay Theology and a blog of the same name.
We’ve known Erik for many years and his work is a welcome addition to the massive task of educating the church and equipping the saints on one of the most insidious attacks on the faith in recent memory.
The 674 page book is no lightweight read. It thoroughly addresses flawed epistemological foundations, as well as the hermeneutical errors of this growing movement and provides a thorough exegesis of the relevant Biblical texts on human sexuality.
Sadly the gay church movement and its parasitic theology has caused massive damage to foundational beliefs which have sustained the church through many challenges. But this is an internal spiritual infection and its unassuming until the symptoms began to appear.
Deception and spiritual identity fraud is just as much a growing problem for the church as it is in the secular world. They take it very seriously and have developed all types of protective measures but the church still treats identity fraud as a low priority issue. This is why gay church theology has been able to deceive so many so quickly.
You can protect yourself and innoculate yourself with this powerful resource Do Not Be Deceived.
Recognize any of these false house prophets associated with the United Progressive Pentecostal Church? The homosexual-oriented pentecostalish organization is headed by chief false teacher OC Allen. The UPPC teaches that homosexuality is acceptable to God and that the bible is not opposed to same gender sexual relationships.
Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
But there are also false prophets among the people, even as there are false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1
Former Exodus International President and Author Joe Dallas responding to new Matthew Vines book of overcooked gay theology:
“The messages he had received referred to articles or news items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify.” (George Orwell, 1984)
“When plain truth condemns what we love, our choices are few. We can abandon what we love in obedience to the truth, we can rebel openly against the truth, or we can attempt to re-write the truth to appease our conscience and silence our critics. When we choose Option 3 we join Winston, the main character in Orwell’s classic 1984 quoted above, as he alters (or rectifies) the inconvenient, unwanted facts. Matthew Vines essentially does the same in his new book God and the Gay Christian, by taking scriptures plainly saying one thing and re-interpreting them to mean another.”