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Candace Chellew’s bulletproof conspiracy theory
Ole bulletproof is at it again, this time via Religion Dispatches lambasting the founders of TripleXChurch for trying to help homosexuals and sex industry workers (prostitutes et al).
Although Candace Chellew claims to be a gay christian, a Rwandan elephant might be a better representation. We’ve talked about her sophistic butchery of scripture here and here before. Now she’s protesting gays at parades being treated with love. She’s found incontrovertible evidence of a conservative Christian conspiracy to convert gays from their true orientation with a sinister bait and switch tactic using water bottles and bracelets. Wow, thankfully she’s now exposed it and gays the world over are safe.
A new book by two pastors with a ministry focus on traditional sexual “sinners” like those in the porn industry and those who “struggle” with pornography, is seeking to revive this sort of “friendship evangelism.” They’re traveling the country, attending gay pride parades, handing out “Jesus Loves You” water bottles and wrist bracelets apologizing for how the church has treated “sinners” like gays and lesbians.
On the serious side, Ms Chellew’s biggest problem (like most gay christian clerics) is that she has a substantial amount of misplaced (and unjustified) caan-like anger at God and his Word. Sorry, republicans, conservative Christians, James Dobson nor Exodus International created the Bible. In fact, no one Chellew continuously blames had anything whatsoever to do with what is contained in the scriptures. But because we simply believe what it says and proclaim its truth, its just as if you wrote those hateful words to her. That’s a reference to the homosexuality is an abomination part which she doesn’t like because she thinks her lesbianism is her identity.
Its strange that one sinner would say, I’m better than that sinner because I don’t do that! Isnt that breaking the dreaded thou shalt not be judgmental law? Believe it or not that’s exactly Chellew’s issue with sex industry workers. She’s better than those degenerates!
“The offensiveness of this “friendship evangelism” cannot be overstated. Let me outline what I find most offensive. First, gay and lesbian people are lumped in with porn stars. I agree with them that the porn industry is harmful not just to women, but to men. It degrades both men and women—but women especially. I join with them in their quest to change the behavior of porn stars. However, I am offended that my community is lumped in with them. There is absolutely no comparison. It’s like comparing the heterosexual community to the porn industry. Yes, there are some perverts in the heterosexual community, but that doesn’t mean the whole community is perverse. Same goes for the gay and lesbian community.”
So what’s wrong with handing out bottles of water and Jesus loves you bracelets at gay pride events? Gays have always complained that Christians don’t show them love and are always hatin’ on them cause of who they are. Well, now that Jason Harper and Craig Gross are not doing that Chellew thinks its definitely because they are conniving “friendship evangelism” devotees like her sister. Who, by the way she mistrusts too.
Well, with all this Christian 007 action going on, just who does Chellew, defender of the gay christian kingdom of gay faith trust? Most likely herself and her book, Bulletproof Faith. Its her version of how to protect yourself from the evil Christians who want to tell you Jesus loves you but secretly want you to burn in hell. Its like a one year how-to-survive-in-post-Sadam Iraq guide. Talk about conspiracy theories.
While Chellew is busy instructing frightened gays how to duck and dodge Christians who sincerely love them, perhaps its never occurred to her (that comes from fear of reading the bible) God might actually be still speaking to her over and over.
As has just been said: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion.” Heb 3:15. In other words, when God speaks to you, don’t play the bulletproof card.
And doesn’t God move in mysterious ways, his wonders to perform? Afterall, God did grant a jackass temporary speaking abilities to reprimand an apostate prophet and tell him he was about to get his head chopped off by an angel. The case of Balaam strangely parallels the whole bulletproof ideology. Lying to people about God will only result in bondage, disobedience and severe consequences.
Apostate-in-chief John Shelby Spong (remember him?) wrote of BPF “It is an amazing truth that gay and lesbian Christians need to develop a bullet-proof faith in order to survive the attack of other Christians. That, however, is the experience of many homosexual persons. Candace Chellew-Hodge has in this book committed herself to the task of making that survival a reality. I salute her and her work”
Sounds like a perpetual victimization manifesto cult pledge. Like Spong’s crybaby manifesto, Chellew declares “there’s only one side to this issue.” There’s something ironically hypocritical about that when Challew’s church the UCC declares “God is still speaking”. But such are those who live in deception.
The incredulous thing is that people like Bulletproofing Chellew and Manifesto-ing Spong actually want us to believe them instead of God. What foolish arrogance.
God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? Numbers 23:19 NIV
PSR hosts “all gender” discussion
Not content with promoting just one abomination, the gay christian “theology” school at Pacific School of Religion is hosting an event where they will discuss branching out into other “sexual orientations”. This madness has no bottom:
“…on the “sexual orientation previously known as bisexuality,” members of the PSR community will share their observations and insights in conversation with each other about the complexities of “gender” and “sexual orientation.” Do people really fall in love with a gender or with people? Are sexual “orientations” strictly defined boundaries of desire? In a world where “homosexuality” hardly captures the complexity of human intimacy, how do we navigate this mostly uncharted territory of diverse sexualities and genders?”
According to Galatians 5, sin is a uncontrollable condition which spirals out and reproduces itself in The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Yahoo gay ministers group founded by COGIC Elder
The blaquebigayministers group on Yahoo boasts 787 members and has been in existence since July 2000. The group was formed primarily according to its homepage statement, especially for “black Christian ministers and friends who are family and need support and encouragement and a place of refuge.” The term “family” is a euphemism for homosexual or downlow.
The group’s other dubious distinction is that it was founded by COGIC Elder Ronald Kimbrew (below, right) of Arkansas First Jurisdiction. If that sounds familiar, its the same jurisdiction where Pastor Ronald Paige, an accused molestor of teenage boys pastored a church until he was murdered in April.
In August 2008, GCM Watch asked Kimbrew to clarify whether he was still a member of this group and why he founded it, but he has not responded to our questions.
The bigayblaque ministers group on Yahoo is private so you wont be able to gain entrance to see who’s exactly there. But we did.
HISTORY
Although this may be your first time hearing it, this isn’t new and it isn’t, in some respects, hidden. “Blaquebigayministers” was first brought to our attention in 2002 by a formerly COGIC, New York based bishop who was familiar with the outreach work we did. He was alarmed when he came upon this group and shocked that it was populated by men in the church. As a matter of fact it was first reported to Bishop LT Walker and State Secretary Jewel Withers, Jr. in March 2003 [See letter]. But it appears that not only is Kimbrew still in office and ordained, he has been promoted.
According to website of Greater Trinity, where Kimbrew is the webmaster:
Elder Kimbrew served the Arkansas 1st Jurisdiction as the Assistant Secretary of the Pastors & Elders Council from December 1996 to March 19, 2005. He has served as the webmaster of the web site since its inception in 2001. He is also the secretary of the Worship Committee @ Greater Trinity. During the Trustee Board Election of 2004 @ the church, he served as a member of the “Screening Committee” to ascertain the qualifications of each Trustee Board candidate. Afterwards, he supervised the election as Chairman of the Election Committee. On January 7, 2006, he became the Public Relations Director for the church.”
After learning about the group, a letter was sent to Bishop LT Walker and Supt Withers with specific information about the site and quotes written by Elder Kimbrew. Kimbrew organized meetings of homosexual COGIC ministers for most of the national meetings in particular Memphis Holy Convocation and the popular AIM (Auxiliary in Ministry) Convention. We spoke on the phone with Pastor Withers and Bishop Walker. Both expressed shock at the information.
But what happened after the information was reported and verified? What happened beyond just the shock?
Is COGIC going to be silent while an organized culture of homosexual ministers and bishops populate its pulpits?
Answering the gcm's top lies
We promised to share sound biblical responses to the top 15 lies told by the gay christian movement in 2008. Im not sure if they will create new lies for 2009, but if they do rest assured the Bible has the truth standing at the ready.
1. There are homosexual couples in the bible.
There are two points to be made about homosexual couples in the bible. One, there may have well been homosexual couples in the bible, but there is no approval of those relationships. Everything in the bible is true, but not everything is truth. There are many things within the scriptures which are noted but not approved. Satan, incest, lying, murder exists but none of us would say that because it is found in scripture, then it is somehow justified behavior. Secondly, the individuals cited as proof of homosexual couples are not in fact homosexual couples. There exists nothing in the passages portraying Jonathan and David’s relationship as a homosexual one. Titus 1:15 says everything is clean to those who are clean, but nothing is clean to those who are corrupt and unbelieving. Indeed, their very way of thinking and their consciences have been corrupted.
2. Jesus said nothing about homosexuality.
To say that Jesus said nothing about homosexuality in scripture is a technical half-truth, and anything which is not fully truth becomes a lie. In Matthew 19: when Jesus was asked about divorce, the answer he gave condemned all sexual activity outside the male-female marriage convenant. And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? No Christian should ever argue that just because Jesus did not specifically mention something in scripture then it is because he or we should approve of it. Jesus never mentioned smoking, child pornography or identity theft, but we know these behaviors are wrong.
3. God created homosexuals like he created heterosexuals.
Actually, God created us holy. Ephesians 1:4. According as hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:…” The bible tells us that God created man holy and sinless, but that because of disobedience, mankind passed on a sin gene spiritually that has infected every person that enters the world. Whether one is hetero or homo sexual is a moot issue. Heterosexual sinners as well as homosexual sinners will end up in the lake of fire. But the statement is still false. Homosexuality is not a created sexual expression equal to heterosexuality. While there are expressions of heterosexuality which are sinful, heterosexuality is not intrinsically sinful. Homosexuality carries an abomination rating, not so much because of the sexual act, but because unlike any other sin, it is a direct attack on the nature of God as Creator. Reference Romans 1 (homosexuality is anti-nature spiritually, emotionally, sexually and relationally).
4. Jesus loves, accepts and includes everyone.
Yes, Jesus loves accepts and includes every sinner but only as sinners seeking regeneration through repentance. All sinners are invited to come, but once they do come to Christ, according to Matthew 11:28, Christ expects them to “exchange” the heavy burden of sin for his yoke. In this case, homosexuality is that heavy burden of sin. Once a sinner has accepted Jesus as Saviour, he must also make him LORD. If he is truly LORD, then his true servants will obey all of his commandments. Thus, the statement is a technical half-truth which intentionally conceals the most important aspect of the inclusive welcome of Christ. He welcomes all to come as they are and accept his standards of living while rejecting their own.
5. The Apostle Paul did not know of any loving same sex couples.
The assumption is that not personally knowing someone renders one (Paul) incapable addressing a situation. Its not necessary or required to know anyone personally to judge whether or not someone’s actions are sinful. That is why we have the sciptures, lest we opinionate on sin. For example, in 1 Corinthians 5, Paul said it was reported to him that a man was in a sexual relationship with his father’s wife. Based on this report, Paul commanded that the man be put out of the fellowship until he repented. The problem with judgment based solely on relationship knowledge is that a tendency exists to let our personal feelings for an individual prevent us from seeing sin for what it really is. Not only is this statement false in its intent, its a factual lie. Paul was an extremely educated man who was widely traveled. To suggest he didnt know any homosexual couples —”loving” or not— is to minimize his profound and expansive life experiences.
6. Christians are not required to live by Old Testament laws.
Answer: The bible, particularly the Old Testament has 3 types of laws: Ritual, moral and civil. Sometimes these three overlap. While all of the categories of known law reflect the nature of God and contain valuable lessons for all, not all are universally applicable. This is why 2 Tim 2:15 calls on us to “rightly divide” the Word so that we have proper application. Ritual laws applied only to the Jews, while civil laws applied to all who were under Jewish authority. However, moral laws(which covered sexual conduct) are timeless and universal. Jesus intentionally broke ritual laws (Matt 7:2) and when the situation required, he broke civil laws. But there exists no evidence Jesus broke moral laws. Nor is there any evidence he sanctioned or encouraged anyone else to do so.
7. The Bible was only talking about temple prostitutes, not loving couples.
God never condemned homosexuality on condition of consensuality. He condemned the act. Therefore, regardless of what context that act occured in, it is condemned. Time and culture do not affect God’s moral laws. For example murder is just as wrong today as it was when Cain murdered Abel. Sexual expression is no different. If God has condemned a sexual act, then his word remains the same no matter who is involes or why they are doing it.
8. God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality but because of inhospitality.
It would be much more truthful to say that homosexuality wasn’t the only sin which caused Sodom’s destruction. In Ezekiel 16:49-50, God says there were multiple reasons Sodom was destroyed. “Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it. The word “abominations” in this passage refers to the sexual perversion of sodom.
9. The eunuchs Jesus spoke of in Matthew 19 are the same as today’s gay men.
All eunuchs in the bible were men, so the statement fails to justify lesbianism. In fact, eunuchs were men who were incapable of having sex. Every eunuch mentioned, from the eunuchs which threw the wicked queen Jezebel to her death to the Ethiopian eunuch baptized by Philip the evangelist, were righteous.
10. The bible has been used to beat up and subjugate blacks and women, now its being used to bash gays.
Yes, the bible has been misused to mislead people, but that doesnt make the bible wrong it makes the people who misused it wrong. The bible is also being misused by people who claim that God is okay with homosexuality when it says just the opposite. Yes, the bible has been misused against women and against people of color but this is no reason to continue misusing it by encouraging people to live in sexual rebellion and still claim to be followers of Christ.
11. Homosexuality is a gift from God just like heterosexuality.
First, there is zero scriptural basis for the claim that homosexuality is a gift from God. This claim is so outrageously false, I feel I must respond with raw truth. Romans 1:26-27 clearly teaches that homosexual behavior is not a matter of a person simply choosing to act on their desires. Conventional “wisdom” says that gays are born with the same sex attractions which at some point naturally progress into behavior. But a careful reading of the text shows homosexuality is not a progression from orientation to behavior, but a digression into death set in motion by God himself. Homosexual behavior is the result of a person refusing to reject their ungodly desires despite the clear word from the Lord concerning it. If we rightly divide Romans 1, homosexuality is not a gift but rather a payment for rejecting Gods truth. Romans 1 even teaches that such people fall so deep in deception that they exchange the truth for a lie. Clearly, the fruit of this lie to call a punishment from God a gift. The payment for sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life. Romans 6:23.
12. Gay people are the new gentiles of the church.
Acts 15 gives us a very clear picuture of the first century gentiles who came to salvation. And it tells us how the apostles dealt with controversies which arose because of them. The major dispute arose from some Jews’ attempt to force new gentile converts to be circumcised as a prequisite for salvation and consequently the apostles met in Jerusalem to resolve the matter. The outcome of that historic meeting set forth two clear standards for the gentiles. (1) they were to abstain from all forms of sexual immorality and (2) they were to abstain from idolatry, blood and strangled foods. If they did this, the Apostlic council said, they would do well. Now, if the Apostles commanded the gentiles to abstain from all forms sexual immorality, how is it possible that gay christians are the new gentiles?
13. The church is lagging behind science and will be on the wrong side of history.
God’s Word was established before science was ever thought of. Ps 90 FRom everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man that he should repent. Has he not said it, will he not perform it? Isaiah 40:8 The grass withers and the flowers fade but the word of the Lord shall stand forever. Both science and scientists have been proven wrong before, but God’s word is true 100% of the time.
14. Homosexuals do not need to repent, be saved, delivered from or changed from their natural sexual orientation.
The fundamental problem with this position is that it changes the basic definition of sin. This is dangerous to the church because if we can willfully change definitions of certain behaviors, then we alter what people understand the consequences of that behavior to be. For instance, if our government were to make rape legal, there would be no negative consequences for the rapist legally. Likewise if the definition of what is or is not sin, especially when there’s a clear definition in scripture, it will deceive people and consequently lead to spiritual death.
15. Without gays in the church writing and singing the music, the church wouldnt have anyone to depend on.
Romans 11:29 teaches that gifts and calling are irrevocable. In other words, they are not subject to recall by God. And although God does indeed give gifts without regard to a person’s spiritual status, gifts and callings are never an accurate indicator of relationship with Christ. Without a relationship, Christ will tell such people to “depart for I never knew you” Thats sad and tragic to spend your life in church in a relationship with the gift but not the giver of the gift.
Top 15 gay christian lies of 2008
2008 was the year of major whoppers coming out of the gay christian movement. Here the their 15 biggest lies as summarized by GCM Watch.
1. There are homosexual couples in the bible.
2. Jesus said nothing about homosexuality.
3. God created homosexuals like he created heterosexuals.
4. Jesus loves, accepts and includes everyone. (technical half-truth)
5. The Apostle Paul did not know of any loving same sex couples.
6. Christians are not required to live by Old Testament laws.
7. The Bible was only talking about temple prostitutes, not loving gay couples.
8. God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. (another technical half-truth)
9. The eunuchs Jesus spoke of in Matthew 19 are the same as today’s gay men.
10. The bible has been used to beat up blacks and women, now its being used to bash gays.
11. Homosexuality is a gift from God, just like heterosexuality
12. Gay people are the new gentiles of the church.
13. The church is lagging behind science and will be on the wrong side of history.
14. Homosexuals do not need to repent, be saved or changed from their natural sexual orientation.
15. Without gays in the church writing and singing the music, the church wouldnt have anyone to depend on.
In our next post, we’ll answer each of these lies in a concise manner with scripture.
Gay christian's potty mouth reflect potty beliefs
Why would any Christian use nasty profanity to express themselves? Perhaps when sexual immorality is no big deal, then neither is having clean conversation. If Candace Chellew, the so-called minister and Christian editor of the so-called gay christian website Whosoever cusses like this on her blog, it makes one wonder what else is acceptable in her so-called Christian life. Chellew is a lesbian cleric with the United Church of Christ.
A good person produces good from the good treasure of his heart, and an evil person produces evil from an evil treasure, because the mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Luke 6:45 ISV
On a blog ironically called “the christian agnostic”, Chellew foments against the Vatican because it took offense at John Lennon’s remark that the “Beatles were bigger than Jesus”. Lennon made the deadly remark in 1966. Four years later, The Beatles dissolved and Lennon was tragically gunned down on a New York street fourteen years later.
Maybe Chellew is not aware that the Vatican can’t forgive blasphemy.
The post was blatantly hypocritical. While Chellew lambastes the Vatican for not forgiving Lennon she holds Bob Jones University in unforgiveness for not subscribing to her brand of fake –and dangerous– Christianity.
But then again, when you see nothing wrong as a Christian with an abominable sexual practice, then using filthy words, unforgiveness, hypocrisy and lying are of no particular significance either.
More on Candace Chellew and her false whosoever doctrines.
