Category Archives: gay clerics
That’s the question Dr. Michael Brown is asking in his latest commentary on BarbedWire. The MIA phenom among religious gay activists is something GCMW has noticed as well.
If you believe you are on the side of truth, you need not be insecure.
Then why are “gay Christian” activists and theologians so unwilling to debate the issues publicly? Why do they consistently refuse public dialogue, especially when those who want to dialogue with them are committed to doing so with civility and grace?
Bear in mind that they are writing books, preaching messages, using social media, and holding conferences, all with the goal of actively challenging the views of conservative followers of Jesus, seeking to overturn the Word and 2,000 years of consistent Church tradition. Yet at the same time, when openly invited to debate their controversial new viewpoints, they grow silent. Why?”
We’ve seen them pop up and down almost like jack in the boxes as if they are afraid their shallow logic and superficial religious platitudes cannot stand the white hot scrutiny of the truth. In fact, one of the tainted fathers of the gay christian movement, pointedly told them “don’t discuss the bible”. Mel White told attendees at a Soulforce conference to opt out of discussions about the bible with “Conservative Christians”. Writes Karen Keen:
“After debriefing the “chalk-talk” experience, we are sent off to our first workshop. I decide to attend, “What the Bible Says and Doesn’t Say About Homosexuality” presented by Rev. Nancy Wilson and Rev. Dr. Mel White. Mel White is a passionate and articulate man who makes it clear from the beginning of the workshop that he has absolutely no desire whatsoever to discuss the biblical passages on homosexuality. Over the years he has suffered a barrage of debates on the issue and he is thoroughly burnt out. He refuses to engage in the discussion any longer. Instead, he passes out a booklet he has written on the subject and tells us to read it. Then, he encourages us to refrain from discussing the Bible with conservative Christians because fundamentalists have no interest in sincere dialogue. Mel also encourages us not to engage in the debate for another reason. By having the conversation, we expose ourselves over and over again to the “lie” that homosexuality is wrong, and when heard repeatedly, “deep down inside you will wonder if they are right.”
We’ve pointed out numerous times how the cookie cutter style comments of gay christians are devoid of scripture. While we believe that extra-biblical resources are welcome compliments to scriptural enlightenment, the line of acceptance is drawn when any resource conflicts with clear foundational teachings of the Bible. With that being said, and despite our critics charge of “bible worship”, even the average Christian accepts that the Bible is our blueprint, our “magna carta”. Therefore, Christians fully assimilate its language, concepts and principles into our vocabulary and more importantly how we live. But we don’t find this bond with God’s Word when it comes to the gay christian movement. But don’t be surprised, this is no mere coincidence.
Karen Keen who attended the event noted the bizarre interpretations gay christian leaders made about the scriptures. At the same event Nancy Elder, chief of the Metropolitan Community Church said the magi or three wise men were homosexuals and that its okay to use one’s “imagination” when reading and interpreting the Bible.
After pressuring him for a reason for an agreement to debate, Matthew Vines, the gay christian movement’s false teacher du jour, finally told Dr. James White why he was putting debates with opposing Christians on the skids:
“I am happy to do dialogues, debates, etc., with anyone when I feel that the event is likely to be constructive, respectful, and relationship-building. I did a ‘debate’ with Michael Brown this summer that was largely a waste of time, because Brown is not interested in listening to and learning from LGBT people, only pontificating about them.”
Its important to note Matthew Vines has been crisscrossing the country proclaiming his readiness to challenge the church’s teachings. But when the challenge confronts him, we find out he doesn’t like it when people won’t “learn from him”.
Channel 8 WISHTV carried this interesting story involving a gay church in Indianapolis.
A church congregation that was expecting to share space with another was forced to worship outside on Sunday. Now, the pastor is threatening to take legal action. The pastor of Powerhouse Church of Indianapolis gave 24-Hour News 8 a copy of the contract he had with The House of God Church to use its facility. He said when they showed up for their first service this morning, they weren’t allowed inside. A church isn’t just defined by its four walls. It’s defined by the people who worship there. And standing under the sun along Schofield Avenue, members of Powerhouse Church of Indianapolis proudly put that on display.
Who wrote this “news story”, one of the church members? Since when does a real reporter editorialize in a news story about whether the church is a true representative of a biblical congregation or not? But we digress on the media’s incestuous desires for all things gay. The House of God made no comment as to the reason why it denied access to the incognito gay church.
“This was to be our first service here. We had signed a temporary lease for three months to worship here while we were in transition to our next space,” said the church leader Keith McQueen. “We gave them money, we had signatures and when we showed up, we were denied access not only to the church, but even onto the property.”
Some are calling the situation a publicity stunt to attract more members. Given the slant of the report, it sounds like they found someone willing to whip up the emotive frenzy in the church’s favor.
Pastors beware, homosexual churches have went full scale incognito! Before you allow any church to rent your facility, you should inquire as to their beliefs on homosexuality. Ask pointed, direct questions about the church’s doctrine, the lifestyle of the pastor or leader and who they are connected to. In addition do some basic online research to see who these people are BEFORE you agree to let sex heretics use your facility to “worship” a god different than the one you know to be true. In addition, update your bylaws and policies NOW to reflect what activities are allowed on your property.
This deception is something GCM Watch pointed out before here. Gay churches are disguising their true identities for one reason: to gain access that in most cases they could never have. In order to accomplish that four deceptive tactics are used.
1. They no longer own the term “gay” in connection with their churches. Now, the term of choice is “inclusive”, “inclusion” or “LGBTQI”. They dont want to be known as a gay church for same reason they dropped identifying with the term homosexual. Once inclusion becomes a liability, they will drop it as well and find another deceptive term to hide behind.
2. They have names that ape pentecostal churches i.e. Powerhouse
3. They ape church titles, forms of dress, etc. Wearing long robes, clergy collars, calling themselves bishops, apostles, etc.
4. Speaking “churchanese” which fools unsuspecting churches, especially those who need the extra money.
Whether the House of God church could legally do what they did is for the law to decide.
WGAA 1340 AM reported late yesterday that Bishop David Huskins was found dead in his home.
Polk County Police say they found Bishop David Huskins inside his home in the Meadow Lakes community late Monday afternoon. He was pronounced dead on the scene. According to Polk County Police Chief Kenny Dodd, detectives believe there was no foul play involved in the tragic incident.
Huskins sent out and email to followers July 10th saying that health concerns could remove him from ministry.
“It has been almost twenty years ago since I had open heart surgery to repair a hole in my heart that had become critical. That started a series of mostly ignored warnings to take care of my heart health. Then in November, I had a mild heart attack (if there is such a thing) and that put me on a path to great introspection of all the areas of my life I had not properly dealt with. I realized I had been in some active church leadership office or role all but the first twelve years of my entire life and even in those first twelve years I taught Sunday School for two years in the little country Baptist church near my home. While I am grateful for all the Lord has allowed me to do I knew sometimes I had let ministry be a substitute for God. I felt Him dealing with me to let go of areas and delegate and release and spend more time with Him and with people not just always in a pulpit. I had started that process much earlier with seeking to place others in charge of the church and! daily duties but still had not relinquished the active roles.
Then over the past few weeks I experienced Congestive Heart Failure twice which forced the cancellation of our annual conference and now I have been told medically I am at the point of complete exhaustion while still dealing with Chronic Congestive Heart Failure. After three nights in I C U and another two night regular hospital stay along with several follow up heart procedures and this past week a Transient Ischemic Attack (minor stroke) and the adaptations of all the medicines (which in some cases have been a nightmare on their own) and the on-going recovery process and having been admitted to bed rest, I am now forced to make some significant and important changes immediately. Even though I have been feeling it and talking about it for a couple of years. The next 90 days minimal will be intensive times of physical therapy and monitoring both heart and neck arteries and avoiding the threat of another heart attack or stroke. Medically over twenty percent of people who ! experience a TIA have a full stroke within ninety days. TIAs are viewed as a warning unless used as a precaution. I am submitting to the precaution.
As most of you know I wrote over a year ago about the need for many of us to take a break, get counsel, seek a sabbatical or otherwise make changes. We even held a January Conference around that concept. I put a plan in place for a sabbatical or even a succession plan. We discussed many of these subjects but I then returned quickly to the rigors of ministry. Now it is medically required and physically necessary for me to adapt. Much of the battle and recovery is dealing with all the side effects and issues of the medicines I am on as well as the physical long term recovery. The truth is however the need for a real sabbatical is long over due. The effects of this mini-stroke and the medicines along with the energy lost from the congestive heart failures keep me very confused, often times unable to articulate my thoughts clearly and then also all the physical limits and battles. I am thankful that they say all that is temporary and will be over in time.”
While serving as head of the International Communion of Charismatic Churches, Huskins became ensnared in the controversy surrounding homosexual former Bishop Jim Swilley. Huskins sent GCMW an email and placed a public statement repuidiating Swilley, but soon after removed the public statement and denied he’d ever sent an email to us. GCM Watch reported on Bishop Huskins here and here.
Recognize any of these false house prophets associated with the United Progressive Pentecostal Church? The homosexual-oriented pentecostalish organization is headed by chief false teacher OC Allen. The UPPC teaches that homosexuality is acceptable to God and that the bible is not opposed to same gender sexual relationships.
Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
But there are also false prophets among the people, even as there are false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1
Its sad when a so-called pastor stands up on Sunday morning and brags about going to clubs and cussing people out and the audience cheers him on. But such is the upside down world of the gay church. We’re finding out that the unsaved homosexual church hypocrites are doing a good job aping the unsaved heterosexual hypocrites in the church.
Darnell Gooch, who started a homosexual church in Memphis a couple of years ago, tries to justify profanity and frequenting lust clubs to make a bizarre analogy about satan “playa hatin” on the anointing. With a roll of the neck and some hip wiggling, Gooch rants “Yeah I did it! I’m still anointed. I went out last night, but yeah Im still anointed. I cussed somebody out yesterday, but Im still anointed. ”
Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming. In these you too once walked, when you were living in them. But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. Col 3:5-8
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, Titus 2:11
A good write up in Barbwire about so called “queer theology”. But be warned its like having to watch rotting animal carcasess. Its filthy, disgusting and unbelieveably called Christian. Perhaps queer is an appropriate label for it considering its so far outside the norm of Christian theology, its just like the sexual activity that spawned it.
Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. 1 Timothy 4:1
Gay theology paints everything, every interpretation of the bible’s passages (the ones they are interested in) with an infected sexual brush. A sample from the article:
According to “gay pastor” Timothy R. Koch, in his article “Cruising as Methodology: Homoeroticism and the Scriptures,” the description of Elijah in 2 Kings 1:8, wearing goat skins and a leather belt, means that he was “channeling goat gods” as the scriptural prototype of the homosexual “leather” subculture. Koch also makes many other such disturbing “discoveries.” For instance, 2 Kings 10:12–17 contains an account of Israel’s King Jehu and Jehonadab taking an innocent ride in a chariot, but to Koch’s warped mind, the text is pregnant with sexual innuendo as he envisions this episode as a “clear” reference to a homosexual pleasure trip. And in Judges 3:12–26, when Ehud plunged an 18-inch knife into Israel’s Moabite oppressor, Eglon, Koch takes great interpretive liberties to distort this passage into a scene of sexual penetration by a phallus.
In the same Queer Commentary, Lori Rowlett’s article “Violent Femmes and S/M [Sadomasochism]: Queering Samson and Delilah” makes the preposterous claim that, “Delilah is a the femme dominatrix teasing and tormenting Samson, who has all the characteristics of a ‘butch bottom’” [a lesbian sexually receptive partner].
Robert E. Goss, a former Jesuit priest, abandoned his Catholic ministry to pursue a homosexual relationship. His books include Jesus Acted Up: A Gay and Lesbian Manifesto and Queering Christ: Beyond Jesus Acted Up. Goss is a recognized theological “leader” in the Metropolitan Community Church, the primary “gay Christian” denomination. Goss even achieved a false air of respectability when he won the 2000 Templeton Course Prize in Religion and Science. According to Rev. Edward Ingebretsen, Director of American Studies at Georgetown University, Goss is a “preeminent” voice who fulfills a “prophetic role” for the Christian “resistance.” And what does this foremost homosexual “prophet” have to say? Goss writes: “Jesus evolved from a friend in childhood, to lover, and to the Queer Christ calling me out of the closet into the streets as an activist priest…I trace my first unspoken words of physical attraction to the crucified Jesus, wanting to strip off his loincloth and gaze at his genitals … I lusted after the figure of Christ, imagining him as the bearded hunk depicted by Michelangelo.” Moreover, this offensive “prophet” of perversion also deviously interprets the Roman centurion’s spearing of Christ as an erotic image of “a penetrated male, a bottom [the passive sexual partner in a male homosexual act].”
How anyone in their right mind could remotely claim any of this is associated with Christ or even common sense is beyond bizarre. But whole Christian denominations have been subverted and permanently disfigured by beliefs like this. That’s why Gay Christian Movement Watch will continue to fight with the sharpest of swords this lie from the deepest pits of hell. Over the last seven years we have dutifully documented and refuted this vicious heretical strain. See our past stories and articles here.