Category Archives: gay theology
Dr. James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries, an apologetics ministry based in Phoenix, is part of a growing cadre of Christian leaders responding to the threat of the gay christian movement. Fueled by the rise of new false teachers like Matthew Vines, more and more Christian leaders are taking on the apostate movement head on and with determination. In a newly released video White, dismantles many of the shallow gay christian theological arguments.
Watch Part 2 here.
During his illegal trial by the Sanhedrin Council, false witnesses were brought in to lie on Jesus. The Pharisees had no evidence to support what he was accused of, so false witnesses were needed to make the case against him stick. Well, it seems like some things never change because people are still lying on Jesus. The latest is gay singer Elton John who ignorantly claimed, sans evidence, that Jesus would have supported homosexual marriage.
The comments were widely reported by the world press.
Sir Elton John has said he believes that Jesus would be a supporter of gay marriage. The “Daniel” singer, who hopes to marry filmmaker David Furnish next year, said he thinks that the Christian figure would have supported the union of gay members of the clergy.
Speaking to Sky News on the same weekend as the London Pride parade, Sir Elton said: “If Jesus Christ was alive today, I cannot see him, as the Christian person that he was and the great person that he was, saying this could not happen.
“He was all about love and compassion and forgiveness and trying to bring people together. And that is what the Church should be about.”
But the chart-topping artist said that the Church deserved credit for the progress that has been made in recent years. He heaped particular praise onto the Archbishop of Canterbury and Pope Francis, whom he described as a “wonderful” man who had stripped back church teaching to reveal its fundamental message of love.
Of course Elton John has no theology degree, has not attended any seminary, does not cite any supporting scripture, is not a member of any Christian church, and doesn’t even profess to be a follower of Christ, but he blindly repeats debunked gay christian ideology. That defies all types of basic logic. So lets just with a few points, prove that Elton John lied on Jesus.
1. Jesus strongly and clearly affirmed the Old Testament position that the only legitimate relationship recognized by God was a biological male and a biological female in a covenant marriage relationship. He stated this to the exclusion of all other relationship pairings whether consensual or not. Mt 19
2. Jesus was God come in the flesh. He said that he came to earth specifically to do the will of God. He had no other agenda except to fulfill God’s will. John 10:30, 6:38
3. Jesus absolutely showed sinners love, compassion and forgiveness but thats only part of the story of Jesus. To paint Jesus as such is one dimensional heresay. Jesus said and did things the gay community considers hateful. (a) He said he did not come to bring peace but division Luke 12:51 (b) said that the world (unredeemed people like Elton John) hated him and would hate anyone who followed him. John 15:18 (c) said if you didnt accept everything he said, you were not his disciple Luke 9 (d) he physically beat people in the temple defiling it with greed John 2:15 (e) called false religious leaders snakes, fools, hypocrites and blind guides.
If the church was truly like Jesus, then it would not accept homosexual sin, but rather tell them that although the church does not condemn them, go and sin no more.
Finally, Jesus said nothing about homosexual weddings, never attended one, never had friends who attended one and never even insinuated that he would ever support homosexual marriages. So Elton John, please stop lying on Jesus.
Former Exodus International President and Author Joe Dallas responding to new Matthew Vines book of overcooked gay theology:
“The messages he had received referred to articles or news items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify.” (George Orwell, 1984)
“When plain truth condemns what we love, our choices are few. We can abandon what we love in obedience to the truth, we can rebel openly against the truth, or we can attempt to re-write the truth to appease our conscience and silence our critics. When we choose Option 3 we join Winston, the main character in Orwell’s classic 1984 quoted above, as he alters (or rectifies) the inconvenient, unwanted facts. Matthew Vines essentially does the same in his new book God and the Gay Christian, by taking scriptures plainly saying one thing and re-interpreting them to mean another.”
All the evidence proves the case over and over. Every single time a denomination, church or religious group has allowed the existence of a “gay christian” entity within its spheres of influence division, rebellions, chaos and war ensues. It should be a stark warning to those organizations and church leaders observing the current hostile takeover of those carrying this spiritual virus to protect themselves, but it continues. Too bad we don’t have the spiritual equivalent of the Centers for Disease Control to warn churches of the high risk of accepting gay theology, but I digress. The only good thing that has come out of it is that the mainline denominations who are turning are also in the process losing much more than they gain. See here, here and here. For the sake of a few homosexual religion-mongers, the churches are losing millions of members, influential congregations, prolific speakers and leaders.
The latest announcement comes from well known pastor and author Kevin DeYoung who writes that his church University Reformed Church had voted almost unanimously to leave its parent organization over its acceptance of homosexuality among other equally serious issues.
On April 27, 2014, University Reformed Church (URC) voted 282-9 in favor of leaving the Reformed Church in America (RCA) and affiliating with the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).
The following Wednesday, the consistory of URC voted unanimously (14-0) to file a petition with the Classis of South Grand Rapids that we might leave the RCA with all our real and personal property and join the Presbytery of the Great Lakes in the PCA.
For the past three years, our church has wrestled with our place in the Reformed Church in America. We have prayed, studied, strategized, spoke, listened, prayed, asked questions, explored options, tried to discern what is in the best interest of the Kingdom, and prayed some more. We did not come to this decision lightly.
And this decision on our part does not mean that we have already left the RCA. Now that our petition has been filed, we will enter into a formal process with the classis—a series of meetings and reports which will take place over the next 6-8 months, as spelled out in detail by our Book of Church Order. We anticipate a final vote on our petition sometime in the first part of 2015.
This painful revelation comes on the heels of another announcement in April. The mortally wounded United Methodist church is facing an imminent major division over the bull headed desires of its leadership to sell the denomination out to a few religious homosexual activists. The same brutal struggles follow until there is no choice left but to leave these people to wallow in the mud they have created.
That decision didnt come after a long period where Methodist leaders despite, strong words on paper, didn’t follow their OWN laws when it came to homosexuality. The results were quite predictable. Amy Frykholm writes in the Christian Century:
A similar legislative move transpired in 1984. This time, the General Conference was considering qualifications for ordained ministry. A proposal from the floor led to the adoption of this statement: “The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. Therefore self-avowed, practicing homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in the United Methodist Church.”
These two changes ushered in an era of “don’t ask, don’t tell” for United Methodist clergy. Many gay and lesbian clergy were, in fact, ordained over the next 20 years. As long as they were not vocal about their sexual orientation and no problems emerged in congregations, many bishops and district superintendents chose to ignore the language in the Book of Discipline. According to Scott Campbell, a pastor in Cambridge, Massachusetts, “The preferred style of bishops and district superintendents was: if you don’t embarrass me publicly, I won’t embarrass you.”
Activism on the issue did not cease. Some clergy announced their sexual orientation or performed same-sex ceremonies, and some were dismissed from ministry. In 1996, 1,300 United Methodist clergy signed a letter urging the General Conference to grant full acceptance to gays and lesbians. “We believe it is time to break the silence and state where we are on this issue that is hurting and silencing countless faithful Christians. We will continue our responsibility to order and discipline of the church but urge our United Methodist churches to open the doors in gracious hospitality to all our brothers and sisters in the faith.”
Unless church leaders hold fast to scripture‘s admonition to put out individuals who continue to undermine the unity of our faith, they might as well expect the same. Their churches and organizations will be torn asunder by those who come in the name of “love and acceptance.”
Although a featherweight could have taken down the childish lore of Matthew Vines’ theology du jour, it was interesting to watch the fight which was quickly over in round one.
Read or download the free e-book entitled God and the Gay Christian: a Evangelical response to Matthew Vines. The book was edited by Dr. Albert Mohler.
Also check out other articles that have laid waste to the notion of gay christianity, Matthew Vines’ accursed theological candy and how it will never change or alter the truth. Matthew Vines is a shooting star destined to utterly fail just like all before him who have challenged God’s eternal word. Whether by hook or crook, or outright threat, they have all failed miserably with much evidence to prove it. That’s why I lose no sleep over this latest heretic in training. We all know that after every pretender has been vanquished Truth will stand without equal.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8,9
A good write up in Barbwire about so called “queer theology”. But be warned its like having to watch rotting animal carcasess. Its filthy, disgusting and unbelieveably called Christian. Perhaps queer is an appropriate label for it considering its so far outside the norm of Christian theology, its just like the sexual activity that spawned it.
Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. 1 Timothy 4:1
Gay theology paints everything, every interpretation of the bible’s passages (the ones they are interested in) with an infected sexual brush. A sample from the article:
According to “gay pastor” Timothy R. Koch, in his article “Cruising as Methodology: Homoeroticism and the Scriptures,” the description of Elijah in 2 Kings 1:8, wearing goat skins and a leather belt, means that he was “channeling goat gods” as the scriptural prototype of the homosexual “leather” subculture. Koch also makes many other such disturbing “discoveries.” For instance, 2 Kings 10:12–17 contains an account of Israel’s King Jehu and Jehonadab taking an innocent ride in a chariot, but to Koch’s warped mind, the text is pregnant with sexual innuendo as he envisions this episode as a “clear” reference to a homosexual pleasure trip. And in Judges 3:12–26, when Ehud plunged an 18-inch knife into Israel’s Moabite oppressor, Eglon, Koch takes great interpretive liberties to distort this passage into a scene of sexual penetration by a phallus.
In the same Queer Commentary, Lori Rowlett’s article “Violent Femmes and S/M [Sadomasochism]: Queering Samson and Delilah” makes the preposterous claim that, “Delilah is a the femme dominatrix teasing and tormenting Samson, who has all the characteristics of a ‘butch bottom’” [a lesbian sexually receptive partner].
Robert E. Goss, a former Jesuit priest, abandoned his Catholic ministry to pursue a homosexual relationship. His books include Jesus Acted Up: A Gay and Lesbian Manifesto and Queering Christ: Beyond Jesus Acted Up. Goss is a recognized theological “leader” in the Metropolitan Community Church, the primary “gay Christian” denomination. Goss even achieved a false air of respectability when he won the 2000 Templeton Course Prize in Religion and Science. According to Rev. Edward Ingebretsen, Director of American Studies at Georgetown University, Goss is a “preeminent” voice who fulfills a “prophetic role” for the Christian “resistance.” And what does this foremost homosexual “prophet” have to say? Goss writes: “Jesus evolved from a friend in childhood, to lover, and to the Queer Christ calling me out of the closet into the streets as an activist priest…I trace my first unspoken words of physical attraction to the crucified Jesus, wanting to strip off his loincloth and gaze at his genitals … I lusted after the figure of Christ, imagining him as the bearded hunk depicted by Michelangelo.” Moreover, this offensive “prophet” of perversion also deviously interprets the Roman centurion’s spearing of Christ as an erotic image of “a penetrated male, a bottom [the passive sexual partner in a male homosexual act].”
How anyone in their right mind could remotely claim any of this is associated with Christ or even common sense is beyond bizarre. But whole Christian denominations have been subverted and permanently disfigured by beliefs like this. That’s why Gay Christian Movement Watch will continue to fight with the sharpest of swords this lie from the deepest pits of hell. Over the last seven years we have dutifully documented and refuted this vicious heretical strain. See our past stories and articles here.