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After several weeks or so of typical liberal blog fawning and posting cheery, christian next door type videos from so called “NALT Christians”, Wayne Besen’s core commenting constituency is still extremely hostile to the whole gay affirming Christian thing. The lovefest is not a two way street.
The “Truth Won Out” collaborators are finding out that trying to sell sugar sweet gay affirming religion to its atheist meanies is a steep climb. The videos are being met with cold silence or virulent anti-religion, antiChristian bigotry. This is sure to create a conundrum for its two co-birthers, particularly since neither are Christians, nor have they ever been. Its like a Martha’s Vineyard native trying to lead a survival course in inner city Chicago. TWO’s leader Wayne Besen is Jewish and has only scant precursory knowledge about Christianity. Consequently, Besen seems to be allowing head religious heckler-jeckler Evan Hurst to be the PR man, but he’s fighting an uphill battle as well.
On a serious note, it goes to show you just how apostate factions of Christianity have become. Not to be alarmed as we have been forewarned.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2 Tim 4:3-4)
Some sample responses:
CHAZ: It becomes increasingly nauseating and tiring having to put up with and all to [sic] often argue and defend in that same pseudo authenticity the fake imaginary gods and so called principals of the religious whom have ironically shown themselves very adept to change when it suites[sic] them and their existence.”
CHRIS: Sounds a bit like Sally Fields: “You like me. You REALLY like me.” I am not interested whether Christians like me or not. Some of these people are still propping up bigoted churches with their donations every week, all the while saying that they do not agree with what their leaders say about LGBT issues. By giving ONE penny to these groups, you are tacitly supporting the bigotry. To all Christians: If you do not like me, then fine. If you do like me, that’s fine too. But whether you do or not, it will not affect my life in any way. Just keep your [expletive] out of my back yard. Sorry to be the wet blanket on this, Wayne. I admire your other work immensely and hold you in high regard.
Hurst seems to be flying solo in the cockpit, But how long before the steam runs out and Besen discards this project du jour for his next “big thing”?
Maybe TWO should crank up a NALT for muslims, buddhists and atheists. That ought to produce some really interesting smiley faced vids.
Still in the casting and production mode, a new stage play called “The Other Side” is hoping to wake up a much needed discussion about sexuality, sexual abuse and identity according to Connecticut based director/producer/actor Colin Ivan Osborn.
In LA on business, Osborn took some time to talk exclusively with GCM Watch about the play.
GCM WATCH: Colin, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about your stage play the Other Side. So let me ask a few obvious questions. What’s the significance of the title of the play?
COLIN OSBORN: Initially the play was going to be called The Other Side of the Pulpit. But I shortened it to just The Other Side for a couple of reasons. One, I wanted it to draw a wider audience. I didn’t want it to be specifically a church play. Its not necessarily a church play, but it does have some religious references in it. I used that title coming from a lot of some experiences I’ve seen cause I have a lot of minister friends who have expereinced life and have gone through situations. Some of the stuff is fictional but there are some truths in what we talk about.
GCMW: If the church isnt your intended audience, who is it that you are aiming your message at?
CO: Everybody. Everybody who has been broken. Everybody who has experienced hurt and pain. Everybody who is not able to deal with and overcome things by the past. Those who have been dogmatized by the church and people who have been abused sexually. I want to talk to everybody. Some of that comes from my background workwise cause I work in the criminal justice field as well.
GCMW: No doubt, there are a lot of broken people in the church as well who could stand to benefit from seeing your play. If thats the case, what would you like for them to walk away with?
CO: I want the church people to walk away feeling safe to talk about what they’ve really gone through. From experience church people have been taught thats its not okay to talk about whats really going on. Put on your game face, your poker face. By you putting on the poker face youre exemplifying God…but in actuality you’re still broken. That’s kinda like the lead character in the play [Pastor Jeremiah Bryant]. He convinced himself to put on a poker face but everything that he’s been trying to suppress is coming back and controlling his life.
GCMW: You said you’re not aiming this at the church audience, but your lead character is a pastor. How do you reconcile that?
CO: I want the church to come outside the church so this is for everybody. A lot of the topics in this play ironically are conversations Ive had with church people. They say I wish the church would talk about this. I’m a rebellious type of guy, so lets do it. I dont want there to be any segregation when it comes to that. Everybody is dealing with something. so everybody needs to talk about it.
GCMW: Lets talk about Pastor Jeremiah Bryant. I’ve watched the trailer and there’s some striking imagery in the trailer particularly at the end where another man’s hands embrace him while he is looking in the mirror. So is it fair to say homosexuality is one of the issues youre dealing with in the play?
GCMW: And what’s your approach on the subject?
CO: Its not the typical conversations people have. Its not dogmatic. I’m definitely not talking about it to say that its right or wrong. I think that [pauses and sighs]… Im trying to use that situation to force people to ask another question. I’m not saying its right. I’m not saying its wrong. I have my own beliefs about things. But what I do want to do is to talk about the stuff people dont talk about which is why I wrote it in that manner. What’s funny is a lot of people have seen the trailer. And when they see that part they say hmmm I need to find out whats going on. I want to use that to pull and be suspenseful.
GCMW: You being the playwright, are your personal beliefs entwined in this play? I know you said youre not trying to say whether its right or wrong but if youre trying to move people to resolution, is it wise to leave it as an open-ended situation?
CO: I think so. I think by leaving it open-ended its going to force people to talk. Are some of my beliefs in there? There are some of my beliefs in it but I wrote the play based off of people’s stories. Like I said I wanted to talk about the topics that no one really wants to talk about it. Especially in our community.
GCMW: So this is a “black” play because all of the characters are African American, right?
CO: All the characters are African American but they also all come from different backgrounds. Their fan bases are very diverse. There’s a universal message and I’m just using the “black experience” to bring that message out to everybody. Its not stereotypical and not traditional.
GCMW: Do you think that anyone will be offended at any of the subject matter in the play?
CO: I kinda hope they are offended. I hope they are offended. If people get offended its because they have an issue with themselves internally. If they get offended, good. Now, talk about it. So to some extent I hope they do get offended because at the end of the day something is going on with you. Im not saying that negatively but yeah it means that Im doing something right.
GCMW: Talk to me about the production of the play. Is this going to have elaborate stage props…?
CO: This is my first major production so Im not trying to come out with big stage props but it will be as professional as possible. With the caliber of actors that I have, that alone will help to up the whole production.
GCMW: Im gonna give you a chance to drop some hints to well known folks. [he laughs] So, if you could assemble a dream cast of actors to work with, who would it be?
CO: Honestly, I would love to work with Morgan Freeman and Felicia Rashad. The older ones have so much wisdom and they have so much knowledge and skill. Im kinda an old soul so thats where Im at. I love the older actors.
GCMW: And I’m going to help you out with Alfre Woodard!
CO: Oh God, YES! I love her! Oh my God, yes! And Viola Davis!
GCMW: What producer inspires your work?
CO: I do appreciate what Tyler Perry is doing. I appreciate him more because of the struggle he’s had and to see how he’s overcome his life obstacles. That’s appealing to me. If I had the opportunity to sit down and talk with him all I’d want is to say is let me sit down with you for 15 minutes and just tell me how you overcame. To me, thats more valuable than asking for a part.
GCMW: Colin, how long did it take you from the conception, the idea to actually beginning work? People say “I have a dream” but the dream never becomes a reality. So how did you get your dream to this point?
CO: [laughs] Three and a half years. I finally woke up sometime last year. Im 33 years old now, so when I was 32 I finally said I think I can do something with this. So its been about a three and a half year process.
GCMW: Great! Thanks again for taking time out of your busy schedule to shed some light about the play.
CO: Thanks, I appreciate the opportunity.
Osborn says his website with tour dates will be updated. A “mini movie” about The Other Side is slated to be released September 2013.
Related: The Other Side on Facebook
In an effort to prove they are not as rich as the “religious right” says they are, white homosexuals are touting a new study which conveniently discovers “poor black gays” in the south as irrefutable proof there’s a money gap between them and the rest of civilized society.
White homosexuals (including the white gay slaveowners) never got interested in blacks except for sexual purposes. We’ll call it the mandigo effect. But now, viola! the poor black gays “in the south”, are of course NOW a part of the big gay rainbow family.
Barbara Raab, Senior Producer, NBC News who wrote the article about the survey lays the blame for the rich gay “myth” on MISrepresentations on television shows.
When gays and lesbians are featured in popular culture, what do we see? White, wealthy women who host talk shows or affluent men doting on their kids — like Mitchell and Cameron from “Modern Family.” So it’s no wonder that the conventional wisdom is that gay people in America have tons of money and fewer economic struggles than the rest of the population.
You mean the same tv shows gays proudly refer to as accurate representations of themselves? By the way, most of the TV characters ARE white gays living real good economic lives. Raab is silent on the glaring fact that per the demands of GLAAD, white gays are OVERrepresented on TV. So if the nickolodeon homosexuality we see on tv is really not the REAL gays, then what is? Well, thankfully we now have a study to show us that the REAL gays are the suffering field hands down in tha south. The gays whom time has forgot. The ones who only get called to the front porch when their HRC massahs need them to prove a point on some ludicrous concoction of educated lies.
It reminds me of people who use their relatives children to beef up their exemption on tax returns. To all the poor black gays in the south, you can now get back to picking cotton. And take off them sunday overalls. The dog and pony show is over.
This is an epic failure.
Charlette Tall is a married attorney and mother living in Pennsylvania who’s written a new book entitled Diary of an exgay girl [website], a memoir chronicling her perspective on internal family conflicts, homosexuality and unhealthy relationships. In this exclusive interview with GCM Watch, Tall shares an unconventional definition of being “gay” and how purposeful living reflects the image of God.
Gay Christian Movement Watch: Your book is written in diary style. I’ve not seen many, if any, stories of this genre written like this. Why did you decide to go with the diary format?
Charlette Tall: I used a diary format so that readers can understand how my sisters and I, from early childhood, were geared up to disregard men and not to expect a healthy well-balanced marriage relationship. We were on track to be gay in the broader meaning of the word so that the foundation to lesbianism was laid out for all of us. I think I needed to do it like a diary so that my sisters could understand how their behavior at college really confused me, and that their behavior later in life confirmed that I hadn’t imagined what I saw in college.
GCMW: Tell me about your thought processes leading up to you finally beginning to write. Was it an internal struggle? Self doubts?
CT: The book flowed all at once in about a 10 day time period. It was all I worked on from the time I woke up until I went to bed for 10 days straight, My husband was patient with me because I explained to him that I felt like I was in labor and had to get it out – quick! In that 10 day period I gave rough drafts to my sisters, my mom, my husband, and my two good friends whose opinions I really trust. They helped me to tweak it so that the reader can understand my transformation and that I wasn’t just observing my sisters’ affairs. I also used their questions to do the question-answer segment at the end of the book for Freedom from gay/disorderly thinking.
GCMW: Its interesting to note the “breadwinner” turnover at home between your parents. That’s happening more and more today. What’s the significance and effect on family dynamics?
CT: I think the breadwinner turnover in my family was more problematic than what I see nowadays where the women are the breadwinners from the very start. To have the roles reversed between my parents without having a corresponding downsizing of the family’s lifestyle was almost catastrophic for us, because my dad had a very poor communication style and he lived off of an unmet hope that he would soon resume his old career track as a pharmacist. This fueled his depression and also fueled my sisters’ disdain for him.
GCMW: So now things are different?
CT: Nowadays I think the role reversal from the traditional breadwinner model does not have to be catastrophic IF the parties have a very strong communication line. I don’t think there is an inherent wrong in the wife earning more, but I do think it’s inherently wrong to think that the decision making or the authority flows from the ‘money-source’.
GCMW: In 1987, you backslide. Do you think its hard for young Christians in college to stay focused on serving Christ?
CT: I do think it is hard, but not impossible, for college students to stay focused on serving Christ. First of all, there are so many freedoms: your parents/guardians are nowhere around while your peer group tries to set the tone for what is acceptable college behavior. Second of all, I think it can be difficult to find solid bible studies or mentoring relationships for young Christians who could benefit from a guide during this turbulent time period.
I personally faced a choice of the sinner’s traditional college lifestyle vs. an emotional religiosity that was trying to portray itself as Christianity. It was very disturbing for me, because both of my sisters began long term sexual relationships with their ‘prayer partners’ or ‘spiritual mentors’. I think this is where my book can be helpful in shining a light on people’s strong desire to ‘hide’ this underground homosexual life when, in fact, it needs to named for the wrong that it is.
GCMW: In the book, you assign a broad definition to gay as being “sexist, deceptive, manipulative, rebellious, and selfish.” Does that include sexual activity?
CT: I used the definition in a broader sense to help the reader understand that I was just as gay as both of my sisters, even though I had not had gay sex. We all had gay mindsets, so it is an unnecessary distinction as to how we expressed our sexuality; my sister’s gay mindset was fueled even stronger by their disappointment in our dad and then their universal expectation that all men will disappoint. The sexual act is what I call the ‘last door’ of a gay/disorderly mindset. But to answer your question; Yes, being gay does include the sexual act as well; although you can be celibate, and still be gay.
GCMW: You admit that you have never engaged in same sex behavior, so for those who have, how can they “relate” to you and vice versa?
CT: I can relate to someone who has had gay sex from the perspective that we both have to renew our minds to the woman (or man) that God has designed us to be and the commitment to allow God to heal our emotions for healthy interactions with the opposite sex. One of my favorite scriptures is one that my dad used to quote: Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity…..For there the Lord commands the blessing; Even life forevermore. [Psalms 133;vs 1 and 3b] I think this passage of scripture summarizes the strength that God designed for the body of Christ to draw from in healthy interactions with the opposite sex. Gay sex is an expression of total disregard for the opposite sex.
GCMW: In your opinion, can homosexuality be prevented? If so, how?
CT: Yes, I believe there are preventative measures against homosexuality.
I believe that the enemy tries to bind us with the yoke of bondage with different tactics. In reading Donnie McClurkin’s testimony [Eternal Victim, Eternal Victor] he explains that the door to his former gay sex lifestyle was opened for him (by force) through sexual molestation by a male relative. So, one preventative measure is protecting the sexuality of our children through appropriate oversight.
GCMW: I read Donnie’s book. Good reference. Is there more insight you can share?
CT: Well, another preventative measure is nurturing strong self-esteem in our children. I remember that my oldest sister came home from school one day complaining that the boys had teased her about her crooked teeth. My dad’s response was ‘you tell them not to worry about it, because your daddy’s going to get you braces and get your teeth fixed’. Well, that response did nothing for my sister’s self esteem. I think she wanted to hear my dad say that he thought she was beautiful. By the way, he never said that to any of us. A poor self-esteem makes our children vulnerable to the wrong types of people who are willing to show them a world where they finally fit and truly belong. The feeling of being the outsider or feeling rejected, before you even have a shot, makes children vulnerable to all types of seductive forces. A healthy self-esteem is like taking a vaccination shot against the temptations our children will face when they are older. The more confident they are about who they are and their destiny in Christ, the harder it is to be pulled by temptation.
GCMW: Talking about sex and families is a very difficult terrain for most black families. What’s the best way to approach it?
CT: From my perspective, it is absolutely necessary to discuss it in order to prevent this bondage from attaching to the next generation. It is an urgent passion for me to get this out and, hopefully, others will find my passion contagious to shed light on their own families past . Silence gives the darkness the authority to grow and spread.
For me, I’m in the early stages of parenting. My oldest is 10 and the youngest is 2. So the focus right now is strong self-esteem; appropriate oversight; educating the boys not to go with strangers or allow any inappropriate touching. As they get older, I think the focus is on who they are as young men in Christ. That their sexuality is a gift from God that should only be expressed in the context of marriage with their wife. That they have to step aside from all seductive forces. That they have been bought with a price and they are not their own. People have to acknowledge that we are stewards on this earth. Your sexual organs don’t belong to you. You are a steward of the sexuality that God gave to you which the Bible tells you how and when to use it.
GCMW: And what does that sexual stewardship look like?
CT: Heterosexually, after marriage.
GCMW: What advice can you give for married women who are experiencing same sex attractions but keep it hidden from their husbands?
CT: I think transparency with our husbands helps us to maintain our freedom. For instance, I tell my husband that I’m vulnerable to rebellion so I can’t be around those who would foster it. So he helped me to make the decision to switch from a black muslim hairdresser to a Christian one. In regards to a private attraction, I think preventative measures need to be reinforced like reading Myles Munroe On Relationships which helped me a lot to see God’s design for me as a woman. Before I advised, I’d want to know if this were a carryover from opening the door to gay sex. If so, does the husband know that fact? Because being transparent about our past lives absolutely helps us reinforce our relationships with our husbands and gives them the aided tools to help us maintain our freedom.
GCMW: Thanks for this very thought provoking book. Finally, let me ask what you hope readers remember most from your book?
CT: You’re welcome! I think most important is how we have to walk in forgiveness to prevent negative echoes from the hurts that have been committed against us. Even more importantly, believers have to be very diligent in the commitment to renew our minds to God’s word. The enemy tries to use our weaknesses against us in order for us to falsely believe that we are destined for an alternative lifestyle. We are made in God’s image for His purpose.
Contact Charlette Tall cpughtall [at] gmail.com
In the beginning He made them male and female. Mark 10:6
Due to a deadly outbreak of spiritual immunodeficiency virus (SIV), GCM Watch is issuing an urgent second spiritual healthy advisory to believers everywhere. The source of the virus has been tracked to Bishop George Bloomer and his guest “Dr.” (sorry, no confirmation on the title) Cindy Trimm.
The Spiritual Immunodeficiency Virus is a highly infectious spiritual disease which can severely cripple an individual’s ability to know truth and defend themselves against false teachings. Those who are infected can infect others and are at high risk for spiritual death. SIV is an equal opportunity killer and this information is provided so that you can take precautionary measures to protect yourself.
False prophets love religious homosexual ideology aka the “gospel of inclusion”. It allows them to introduce morphing, false concepts incrementally while pretending to uphold biblical sexual morality.
That’s whats in full display in this video of Bloomer and Trimm who spit out such incredible lies, heresies and garden variety ignorance, its stunning.
Bloomer’s opening salvo is to paint himself as a victim of attempted murder. He references his first attempt to deal biblically with homosexuality via a Jet magazine article. It was a colossal failure as was his other attempts notably face to face with inclusion heretic Carlton Pearson. But despite the narcissistic drama of his claim, its necessary if he is to seduce you to his perspective via sympathetic manipulation. Its a sure sign that there will be no truth following.
The more salient points of deception in the discussion:
- Deceptive semantics about the kingdom of God: “We have to figure out what the Kingdom is all about. Kingdom is about empowerment.”
- Attempts to make the Kingdom of heaven and the Kingdom of God two different domains.
- Bloomer claiming that homosexuals have an “anointing to take us [the church] to a place in worship that no others can take us”.
- Bloomer says he isn’t going to make the Bible say something it doesn’t say, but remains silent when Trimm commits interpretive atrocities
- Contradiction: Bloomer says he couldn’t find in the bible the answer to the question “will homosexuals go to heaven”, so he left it up to them (whoever that is) to define. If he couldn’t find it as a noted religious authority (per Jet) then how could Jet’s unchurched readership find it, let alone answer it?
Is it really that hard?
Bloomer pains himself over the question will homosexuals go to heaven. The answer is simple: no practicing sinner will inherit the kingdom of God. None. Not a heterosexual, not a homosexual. None. He even said that in the Jet story.
“If we believe anything about what the good book says about heaven, it’s a happy place that NONE of us really deserves. No matter how you classify yourself, you had better depend on God’s mercy instead of your inherent goodness.” Is homosexuality an unforgivable sin? No. The only unforgivable transgression is to smugly refuse to bow down before your Creator. That arrogance certainly isn’t limited to any particular sexual orientation, nor to any particular kind of sin.”
So, why is it so hard now to answer it biblically?
The real problem is Bloomer’s own latent heresy and trending inclusion. He’s infected with SIV and showing the symptoms.