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		<title>NO more moralistic theraputic deism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Juanita Bynum can keep her sheets. But please mam, for God&#8217;s sakes stop the madness.
Unfortunately,  there&#8217;s scant evidence to suggest she will. So here we go again with &#8220;No More Sheets&#8221;.  And look who&#8217;s joining her to tell us all that all we  need is a good dose of celebrating ourselves.
Jonathan Nelson who recently appeared with inclusion heretic Carlton Pearson
Dorinda Clark Cole of the How Sweet the Sound controversy.
Darrell Hines. Cant help but be disappointed in this after the &#8220;holiness is right&#8221; speech on TBN. Et tu Bishop?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jbm-nmores.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5031" title="jbm-nmores" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jbm-nmores-319x478-custom.jpg" alt="jbm-nmores" width="319" height="478" /></a> Juanita Bynum can keep her sheets. But please mam, for God&#8217;s sakes stop the madness.</p>
<p>Unfortunately,  there&#8217;s scant evidence to suggest she will. So here we go again with &#8220;No More Sheets&#8221;.  And look who&#8217;s joining her to tell us all that all we  need is a good dose of celebrating ourselves.</p>
<p>Jonathan Nelson who <a href="http://www.pr.com/press-release/248549" target="_blank">recently appeared </a>with inclusion heretic Carlton Pearson</p>
<p>Dorinda Clark Cole of the<a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/5017/gay-choir-wins-how-sweet-the-sound-gospel-competition" target="_blank"> How Sweet the Sound</a> controversy.</p>
<p>Darrell Hines. Cant help but be disappointed in this after the &#8220;holiness is right&#8221; <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness" target="_blank">speech on TBN</a>. <em>Et tu</em> Bishop?</p>
<p>Is it the money? Do these people not care about what Juanita Bynum is <a href="http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/jbvid.html" target="_blank"><strong>doing</strong> </a>and <strong><a href="http://bethelburnett.blogspot.com/2010/07/we-are-crying-for-you-juanita-iiwhat.html" target="_blank">saying</a></strong>? Are they in agreement with her lunacy? Are they in such a deep vacuum of seclusion they have not seen and heard?</p>
<p>Do they just need to keep their faces out in the public with these appearances to help sell CDs and products? All of the featured faces except Woods has a new CD product on the market. Is this just one big CD sellfest disguised as a conference about dealing with sexual issues or whatever it is Miss Bynum is hawking now? Notice there&#8217;s no scripture references on the flyer. That&#8217;s so the tag is open to whatever interpretation you think it means. A scripture would add restrictions.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;preferred seating&#8221; thing still is just so very weird for a church gathering.</p>
<p><em>My brethren, you must not make distinctions between one man and another while  you are striving to maintain faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our glory</em>. James 2:1</p>
<p>This conference is aping the new american religion with its  &#8221; its all about you&#8221; message.  Its a trending favorite of all the preachers turned life coach gurus. I was at a seminar last weekend and heard a term I&#8217;d never heard before describe the state of American Christianity. Its called <strong>Moralistic Therapeutic Deism</strong> and is <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/article/20050418/moralistic-therapeutic-deism-the-new-american-religion/index.html" target="_blank">defined by researchers</a> thusly:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. &#8220;A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over human life on earth.&#8221; 2. &#8220;God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as taught in the Bible and by most world religions.&#8221; 3. &#8220;The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about oneself.&#8221; 4. &#8220;God does not need to be particularly involved in one&#8217;s life except when God is needed to resolve a problem.&#8221; 5. &#8220;Good people go to heaven when they die.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Infused with a new world ethics of diversity and inclusion, people conclude that no one is in a position to judge anyone else. Thus, we are all left to determine what is morally right for ourselves. Add to that the idea that religion&#8217;s goal should be to make a person happy. Any talk of suffering, responsibility, self denial, sexual morality or sin is rejected because such things inhibit  one&#8217;s &#8220;personal happiness&#8221;.  The new cosmopolitan belief that God can only become involved in our lives when we want him to seals this false construct becoming so prevalent in the church today.  God  becomes God only by default. He is viewed almost like Santa Claus, rewarding good people when they die with heaven. Hell (if it exists) is for those who don&#8217;t want others to be  good, loving and happy by telling them they cannot live in whatever way makes them happy.</p>
<p>Listen closely and you will hear these ideologies rehearsed over and over in popular Christian/gospel music, sermons by popular Christian speakers, in books by popular Christian writers and in conferences by popular conference conveners like Juanita Bynum.</p>
<p>Thats why blogs like GCM Watch is hated by the lovers of moralistic theraputic deism.</p>
<p>It also explains why people can call themselves Christians and at the same time promote concepts and ideologies contradictory to biblical orthodoxy (right belief) and orthopraxy (right conduct). And why so many of the conferences and &#8220;sermons&#8221; we hear today are me-centered. God wants you happy, God saw the best in you, live your best life now, be a better you, &#8220;love yourself&#8221;, &#8220;do you&#8221;, <em>ad naseum</em>.</p>
<p><span> </span>Watch Jaunita Bynum talk more religious goobley-gock where she says Prince, DMX and Michael Jackson had a &#8220;prophetic anointing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Gay choir wins How Sweet the Sound gospel competition</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think a headline like that would stop other churches from selling themselves out competing in this contest? Probably not. That&#8217;s why the homosexual choirs are back again sangin&#8217; gospel music. Its more proof that singing gospel music requires zero holiness. In fact, you don&#8217;t even have to believe the bible is true.
So they&#8217;re back. And sweeter than ever.
Gay choirs are back in the running for Verizon&#8217;s capitalistic cash cow How Sweet the Sound. How you ask?
Because HSTS is owned by a secular, pluralistic company whose bottom line is ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think a head<a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/howsweetthesound.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-5019" title="howsweetthesound" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/howsweetthesound-268x215-custom.jpg" alt="howsweetthesound" width="268" height="215" /></a>line like that would stop other churches from <strike>selling themselves out</strike> competing in this contest? Probably not. That&#8217;s why the homosexual choirs are back again<em> sangin&#8217;</em> gospel music. Its more proof that singing gospel music requires zero holiness. In fact, you don&#8217;t even have to believe the bible is true.</p>
<p>So they&#8217;re back. And sweeter than ever.</p>
<p>Gay choirs are back in the running for Verizon&#8217;s capitalistic cash cow <a href="http://www2.howsweetthesound.com/" target="_blank"><strong>How Sweet the Sound</strong>.</a> How you ask?</p>
<p>Because HSTS is owned by a secular, pluralistic company whose bottom line is money, there can be no restrictions on who can participate. It can be the Black Temple Church of Satan Mass Choir or Black Temple Church of God in Christ  Mass Choir. To Verizon Wireless, they’re all the same. <a href="http://www2.howsweetthesound.com/general/official_rules" target="_blank">Qualifications per Verizon</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Choir must have a meaningful and consistent relationship with a church, temple, mosque or other similar religious organization (the “Religious Organization”). The<em> Religious</em> Organization must be a tax-exempt organization as described under sections 501(c)(3) and 170(c)(2) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended from time to time, and must have a tax-exempt ID number; (our italics).</p></blockquote>
<p>Please also understand that a great majority of gospel music isn&#8217;t what it labels itself to be. Its like a jar labeled as jelly but inside its glue. However they need the name to deceive the shallow-minded. Its money driven.</p>
<p>Last year we reported to you that HSTS judge <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/3429/dorinda-clark-cole-approves-gay-choir-as-contest-finalist" target="_blank">Dorinda Clark Cole </a>advanced a St Louis based homosexual choir from the Metropolitan Community Church denomination to the competition&#8217;s semifinals.</p>
<p>This year, the same choir is <a href="http://www2.howsweetthesound.com/voting/st_louis#metropolitan_community_church" target="_blank">back again</a>.  With all the <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/183/mcc-clerics-demonize-jesus" target="_blank">blasphemous</a> <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4940/how-gay-christians-really-view-jesus" target="_blank">vomit</a> spewed out by this denomination <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/58/mcc-minister-imagines-jesus-in-love" target="_blank">time</a> and<a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/18/would-jesus-sanction-sin-dot-com" target="_self"> time again</a>, you would think that somebody with a slither of integrity would protest their inclusion. But not so. The lust for money and fame has attracted greedy, ignorant churches lined up once again to &#8220;praise the Lord&#8221;. And if its any consolation, we can&#8217;t single out any denomination. Churches from a smorgasboard of denominations have got on the grind to win the cash prizes and fame for their pastor.</p>
<p><strong>No Light</strong></p>
<p>There is absolutely no way light and darkness can co-exist physically or naturally. They are polar opposites of each other with nothing in common. The same can be said spiritually.</p>
<blockquote><p>I  have come into the world as a light, so that no one  who believes in me should stay in darkness.  John 12:46</p>
<p>And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:5</p></blockquote>
<p>So what does Marvin Sapp, Hezekiah Walker, Dorinda Clark Cole, CeCe Winans and other celebrity gospel music industry workers <strong>not</strong> understand about that undeniable truth? To be blunt, satan&#8217;s kingdom is characterized by darkness and God&#8217;s kingdom is characterized by light. So Marv, Hez, DCC and CeCe are you saying its okay for the two to mix to sing gospel music? How can the blind sing of a glorious light they have never seen? How is it possible to praise a God whose sexual standards you reject? How can you approve and participate in such things knowing the judgment of God against them?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for an answer.</p>
<p>Joining the MCC choir is the &#8220;85% gay&#8221;  <a href="http://www2.howsweetthesound.com/voting/atlanta#anointed_voices" target="_blank">Tabernacle Baptist Church</a> and the metaphysical, &#8220;new thought&#8221;, gay affirming church <a href="http://www2.howsweetthesound.com/voting/atlanta#voices_of_hillside" target="_blank">Hillside Chapel of Truth </a>both in Atlanta.</p>
<p>You can see a list of all the churches involved here. Oh, how ironically sweet it is.</p>
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		<title>Blog News and Views, Volume I: deception, therapy and the UPPC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of the more noteworthy entries from GCM Watch blog partners this Friday deserve a read.
The Dunamis Word blog takes a look at the doctrine of the homosexual denomination United Progressive Pentecostal Church based in Atlanta. In his post &#8220;When progress takes you to hell&#8220;, Pastor Burnett writes

Obviously even gay folk can pimp  congregations. In this organization, the chief apostate has the ability  to change what he wants to change within this church at any time. Here  is the statement that affirms such directly from their web ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the more noteworthy entries from GCM Watch blog partners this Friday deserve a read.</p>
<p>The Dunamis Word blog takes a look at the doctrine of the homosexual denomination United Progressive Pentecostal Church based in Atlanta. In his post &#8220;<a href="http://bethelburnett.blogspot.com/2010/07/when-progress-takes-you-to-hell.html" target="_blank">When progress takes you to hell</a>&#8220;, Pastor Burnett writes</p>
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<div style="text-align: justify;">Obviously even gay folk can pimp  congregations. In this organization, the chief apostate has the ability  to change what he wants to change within this church at any time. Here  is the statement that affirms such directly from their web site listed  below:</div>
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><em>&#8220;While the  leaders and founding members of UPPC are adamant about connecting the  Body of Christ in progressively minded fellowship, without the rigors  and mandates of a reformation, there remain some uniting principles that  guard our fellowship from<strong> heresy and hypocrisy</strong>.  These  tenants from our Basis of Union, and are non-negotiable throughout our  Covenant Connections. Should our Basis of Union come into question for  amendment, it can only be changed as a result of an Apostolic Conclave  or by the sovereign will of the Founder and Chief Apostle, Oliver Clyde  Allen III.&#8221;</em></div>
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<blockquote><p>Did you read the words heresy and hypocrisy???  You mean to tell me that they don&#8217;t believe that encouraging same  gender unity is a heresy? They don&#8217;t believe that tucking a bible  under their arm after being in an illegal and illicit and biblically  condemned relationship is hypocrisy?</p></blockquote>
<p>The UPPC apes pentecostalism, biblical titles and tithes, but somehow finds it &#8220;heretical&#8221; go against its swiss cheese &#8220;Basis of Union&#8221; which includes having sex with people of the same gender. <a href="http://bethelburnett.blogspot.com/2010/07/when-progress-takes-you-to-hell.html" target="_blank">Read the whole story</a></p>
<p>One of my favorite blogs Journal of a Battling Christian reviews one of the debilitating philosphies  of our age and how it affects organizations like Exodus International who promote reparative therapy.  His post &#8220;<a href="http://battlingchristian.blogspot.com/2010/07/century-of-self-freud-and-reparative.html" target="_blank">The Century of The Self, Freud and Reparative Therapy</a>&#8221; shows how self-centered ideology can come to no good when dealing with homosexuality.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve sort of gone back and forth in my mind in  regards to Exodus International. On the one hand I am in support of  their desire to minister to Christians who have unwanted same sex  attractions and to help people come out of the “Gay lifestyle” (for the  lack of a better term).</p>
<p>On the other hand I  am in total disagreement with their support and avocation of Reparative  Therapy, Freudian psychology and so forth. For an alternative viewpoint  on the issue and for a more Biblical approach to counseling I highly  recommend reading Richard Ganz’ book <em>Psychobabble</em> and Jay Adams’ book  <em>Competent  to Counsel</em>.</p>
<p>I consider myself  therefore to be a “sympathetic critic” of groups such as Exodus  International and Focus on the Family. I do not critique them in order  to discourage them in their efforts, rather as a theologian and  Christian I want to seek to encourage them to rethink some of their  ideas, methods and practices so that they might become more thoroughly  Biblical in their approach.</p></blockquote>
<p>I too am an opponent of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy" target="_blank">reparative (or conversion) therapy.</a> For Exodus to continue partnering with this unbiblical approach is damaging to their cause and is creating a chorus of voices who see overcoming homosexuality as something they can pay to get done on a therapist&#8217;s couch. When it fails (which it will) they are angry, bitter and vocal. <a href="http://battlingchristian.blogspot.com/2010/07/century-of-self-freud-and-reparative.html" target="_blank">Read the whole story</a></p>
<p>Speaking of deception, Sola Dei Gloria writes a good peice on <a href="http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/what-causes-deception/" target="_blank">what causes deception</a>. No doubt about it, deception is running rampant not just in the world (ponzi schemes, etc) but in the church as well. Its everywhere and some people want to keep our attention on unimportant things while the spiritual crooks keep up their attacks on the vunerable and ignorant. But are those deceived really innocent?</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #000000;">&#8220;What causes deception? We like to  believe that people lying to those they deceive cause deception.  However, if we think critically about that (yes, I know that  post-modernists have lost that ability, but humor me) deception is not  the direct result of the lie, but is only takes effect when the one  being deceived desires something from the deceiver such as a  relationship or something else that is offered. The deceived believe the  lie in order to receive something else that they want.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Sure there are deceivers, deceiving spirits, wolves, false teachers,  and the likes prowling the church in search of victims, but <strong>you dont have to be one</strong>. Here&#8217;s some <a href="http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/deceptionprevention.html" target="_blank"> excellent teaching</a> on how to protect yourself from deception.<br />
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		<title>Thinking biblically about homosexuality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s only one way Christians should think, talk and believe about homosexuality and that&#8217;s biblically. The Word of God should be our primary guide and source document in dealing with this issue. When we devalue or diminish God&#8217;s word in any way, confusion is inevitable. Telling the truth about homosexuality from a biblical perspective is a great act of love.
That&#8217;s why I believe Pastor John MacArthur does a superb job teaching biblically about homosexuality. Its a great example of truth in love. With statistics and scripture, he unmasks the horror ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jmacarthur.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4986" title="jmacarthur" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jmacarthur-150x150.jpg" alt="jmacarthur" width="150" height="150" /></a>There&#8217;s only one way Christians should think, talk and believe about homosexuality and that&#8217;s biblically. The Word of God should be our primary guide and source document in dealing with this issue. When we devalue or diminish God&#8217;s word in any way, confusion is inevitable. Telling the truth about homosexuality from a biblical perspective is a great act of love.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I believe<strong> Pastor John MacArthur</strong> does a superb job teaching biblically about homosexuality. Its a great example of truth in love. With statistics and scripture, he unmasks the horror of this sin so that we are not deceived and then tells us God&#8217;s plan for freedom. Oh to God that every pastor would just take some prime time when the congregations gather and without bells and whistles, hoot calls and organ riffs just&#8230;teach the people to think biblically about homosexuality. MacArthur acknowledges that it is not an easy subject to address and he&#8217;s right. But with so much death, suffering, deception and perversion, why would any real preacher of the gospel allow such deep darkness to go unchallenged?</p>
<p>Here is the <a href="http://www.gty.org/Resources/VideoPlayer/V8280-322" target="_blank">video</a> to watch. Here is the<a href="http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/80-322" target="_blank"> text</a> of the teaching.</p>
<p>MacArthur touches on many facets of the homosexual condition we have covered in detail here. There&#8217;s an underlying support system that fuels the false idea that homosexuality is normal,  including false teaching, bad logic, social reengineering, political revisionism,  the gay christian affirming movement and those with AIDS who have been deceived.</p>
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<blockquote><p>I want  you to look at 1 Corinthians chapter 6, and all I want to do is just  give you a biblical picture so that you’ll know how God views this kind  of behavior. And let me say at the very beginning, and I will show you  this, but I want to say it because I want you to understand it.  Homosexual sin is nothing more or nothing less than a perverse sexual  act, or acts&#8230;it is no more than that, it is no less than that. It is a  perverse abnormal sexual behavior. I’m reluctant even to call someone a  homosexual because that seems to identify them with some kind of staple  character that draws them into that behavior. It is no more or no less  than a perverse act or acts.</p>
<p>In 1 Corinthians chapter 6, go down to verse 9, the Apostle Paul  writes these words, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not  inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor  idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor  thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers  shall inherit the Kingdom of God. And such were some of you, but you  were washed, but you were sanctified but you were justified in the name  of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”</p>
<p>Here is the good news that answers our question&#8230;what does God think  of homosexuals? It is God’s desire that they be saved, that they be  justified, that they be sanctified, that they be washed. And that  homosexuality and that homosexual behavior be only part of their past so  that it can be said of them, “Such were some of you.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Of the &#8220;affirming&#8221; Christian movement:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of  the supreme tragedies in our day is reclassification of  homosexuality as  a non-sin, as a normal behavior, as an acceptable  behavior, even as a  noble behavior because that’s the way you’re made,  instead of defining  it the way the Bible defines it as a perversion  from which you need to  be rescued. Wrong diagnosis obviates the cure.  And the evangelical  church must stick with a biblical definition of sin  and confront the  sinner with every sin, whether conventionally popular  or not. And there  is a massive movement to appease the guilt of  homosexual behavior, and  it is a fierce guilt that needs relentless  appeasement. There is a  massive movement to somehow free these people  from their behavior that  is a result of unchecked lust and to make them  feel okay about what they  do. There is an effort to redefine it as an  acceptable alternate life  style, sexual orientation, genetic  difference, or personal preference.</p></blockquote>
<p>Listen closely and understand that the church of Jesus Christ <strong>must</strong> think and act biblically when it comes to homosexuality. Nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>h/t: Robert</p>
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		<title>Has the  church &#8220;downlow&#8221; craze died out?</title>
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A couple of years ago, church leaders &#8212;especially African American ones&#8212; were all up in arms about &#8220;the downlow&#8221;. A great deal of it seemed to be a knee jerk reaction to JL King&#8217;s inglorious book about the subject. Several Pastors hurriedly wrote books denouncing it.  Sermons on the downlow (npi) started popping up on Sunday mornings, but a lot of it was church laff-a-palooza.  Now, it seems to have passed and all has returned to normal.  But has anything really changed and has the downlow went underground ...]]></description>
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<p>A couple of years ago, church leaders &#8212;especially African American ones&#8212; were all up in arms about &#8220;the downlow&#8221;. A great deal of it seemed to be a knee jerk reaction to JL King&#8217;s inglorious book about the subject. Several Pastors hurriedly wrote books denouncing it. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8r_6cFCRSw" target="_blank"> Sermons on the downlow</a> (npi) started popping up on Sunday mornings, but a lot of it was church laff-a-palooza.  Now, it seems to have passed and all has returned to normal.  But has anything really changed and has the downlow went underground in the church? Hardly. But now I question why there was so much hype in the beginning? Was it just a opportunity to sell books and make some money? Certainly, with all the secret (or not so secret) homosexual immorality going on in the church, one would think a plethora of ministries would have been birthed in the wake of these revelations. But don&#8217;t trouble yourself looking too hard.  Ministry to men and women struggling with homosexuality &#8212;secretly and openly&#8212; is just as barren in predominately African American churches as it was before the downlow craze.</p>
<p><strong>Pastor Michael Stevens</strong> of University City COGIC in Charlotte wrote a book called Straight Up: The Church&#8217;s Official Response to the Epidemic of Downlow Living [<a href="http://www.christianbook.com/straight-churchs-official-response-epidemic-downlow/michael-stevens/9781599790138/pd/790130">source</a>]. Of his book, Stevens says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Tired of the homosexual agenda trying to &#8220;soothe our conscience and level of tolerance,&#8221; Stevens fires back with a hard-hitting, in-depth look at the emotional, spiritual, and psychological damage this &#8220;nurtured&#8221; disease is having on the very core of the black family&#8212;the male seed. He adamantly pushes forward on this controversial subject because &#8220;we must deal with a disease that is invisible with no symptoms of potential threat or current characteristics of existence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stevens also points out that &#8220;for every deception and myth, there is hope and healing.&#8221; He offers a four-step process that begins with acceptance, followed by repentance, avoidance, and confidence. The detailed plan, he is sure, will help men walk out of the double lifestyle into a new life full of straight living.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not singling out Stevens only using him as an example.  He does say a lot in the video which is debatable. For instance, he veers off  onto feminine men in the church but honestly downlow men arent considered overtly feminine. That would thwart the whole idea of being hidden and secretive and certainly &#8220;heterosexual&#8221;. But I digress.</p>
<p>Another book called &#8220;Deliverance From The Down Low: Deliverance For Men Who Sleep With Men But Profess to be Straight&#8221; by Pastor Gary Williams came out about the same time. Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rpXJsl9BP0">another sermon</a> on the subject. Despite the pastor&#8217;s self admonishing &#8220;preach boy&#8221;, its fairly shallow.</p>
<p>So does the church have an answer? <strong>The</strong> answer? Yes and no. The church needs to acknowledge first that it is part of the problem as well as part of the answer. Stevens says it takes mentoring, modeling and molding to reduce spiritual recidivism among homosexuals who leave that lifestyle. I agree with Pastor Stevens, discipleship (Matt 28:19) is our command. It includes teaching, training and modeling right living in brotherly relationships. But if the problem is as severe as he says it is, why isnt the answer as prominent as the problem? Maybe I&#8217;m missing something, but I didn&#8217;t see anything addressing the problem at Pastor Steven&#8217;s church. The men&#8217;s ministry is well&#8230;typical. <a href="http://www.theuniversitycitychurch.com/men.php" target="_blank">See it here</a>.</p>
<p>The real solution to the downlow isnt a book (which downlow men most likely didnt read), or a fiery sermon about how downlowism is ruining the black community and church (alone, its not). The real solution is out in the open, long term ministry. The other solution for those who think secret sin (that&#8217;s all the downlow is) should be tolerated and accepted, is a good old fashioned house cleaning.</p>
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		<title>How gay christians really view Jesus</title>
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Another must see and hear to believe it video courtesy of  homosexual christian clerics.
Have you been under the impression that gay christians love, revere,  worship, honor, serve, obey and follow the Jesus of the Bible? If you  have, you couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong.  In fact I would say that the &#8220;Jesus&#8221;  they speak of is but an idol of their own imagination, crafted by the  dark recesses of their minds. The Christ, who came expressly to die and  deliver us from the penalty and ...]]></description>
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<p>Another must see and hear to believe it video courtesy of  homosexual christian clerics.</p>
<p>Have you been under the impression that gay christians love, revere,  worship, honor, serve, obey and follow the Jesus of the Bible? If you  have, you couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong.  In fact I would say that the &#8220;Jesus&#8221;  they speak of is but an idol of their own imagination, crafted by the  dark recesses of their minds. The Christ, who came expressly to die and  deliver us from the penalty and curse of sin is mocked and demeaned by those who call themselves by his name.</p>
<p>After watching this video (a little over 10 minutes) of a gaggle of  clergy from the <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/92/mcc-allows-member-churches-to-opt-out-of-belief-in-jesus" target="_blank">Metropolitan Community Church</a> (a homosexual  christian denomination), it reminded me of Bill Clinton&#8217;s 1998 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0" target="_blank">defense  statement</a> when he said &#8220;It depends on what the meaning of is, is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Listen to these gay christian &#8220;theologians&#8221; discuss what believing in  Jesus means to them. Or rather what believing in Jesus doesn&#8217;t mean to  them.</p>
<p>The panel sets the stage by defining their brand of religion as more  akin to Jesus because everything is always in flux. There are no  absolutes and there are no imaginative boundaries for followers of  Christ. In their logic, man is smart enough &#8212;and has a high self  worth&#8212; without the bible to determine what is right and good for us.</p>
<p>I pulled out a few of the more stunning statements for your review.  Keep in mind these are people who are demanding to be accepted as equals  (brothers and sisters in Christ).</p>
<p>The <strong>Rev. Durrell Watkins</strong> (the church&#8217;s senior pastor) refers to Jesus as some type of  voodoo doll he has purchased.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I as a progressive Christian have set my heart on Jesus  so yes I believe in Jesus&#8230;and that means that Jesus for me is a symbol  and a figure that I am constantly working with, exploring, playing with  and so how that impacts me, how that influences my life is going to  change over time. But because I have set my heart on Jesus Ive made  Jesus a primary symbol to work with&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A symbol to play with? Professing themselves wise, they have become  fools.</p>
<p><strong>Rev. Nikki Bailey</strong> sees Jesus dying for the sins of humanity is  something akin to a humorous fairy tale.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I would say that belief in Jesus would be belief in all the  questions and all of the seeking and all of the possibility that Jesus  represents. I would agree with Durrell not necessarily believing about  Jesus all of the things or I was taught in the tradition I was raised  in, not necessarily that Jesus died for my sins., which is fine if  that&#8217;s where you are&#8230; (all laugh) But for me it would be believing  that all the things that Jesus represented through his life and all of  the questions that arrive from that and all of the commitments that I  need to make to justice and peace and loving my neighbor is a part of  what that belief is.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I was wrong. From there it gets  progressively worse. The gay christian ministers go on to reject the  significance of the death of Christ because they possess a &#8220;high  anthropology&#8221;. Thus, they have no need for Jesus to save them although,  as the man says, they do have high regard for Jesus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before and it bears repeating. The theology of the homosexual christian movement is diametrically opposed to literally every fundamental teaching of our faith.  This is the very nature of satan who wraps himself in an angelic facade and presents himself as one who is focused on love and peace.</p>
<p>More on MCC ministers and their perverted view of Jesus:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/2580/mcc" target="_blank">Thieves, robbers and perverts in the MCC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/183/mcc-clerics-demonize-jesus">MCC clerics demonize Jesus</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/58/mcc-minister-imagines-jesus-in-love" target="_blank">MCC minister imagines Jesus in love</a></li>
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		<title>BCNN challenges megas to repudiate SOTUS &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Black Christian News is on it.
Via ExTimes,  we learn that the site has issued a challenge to the nation&#8217;s prominent mega pastors to openly repudiate the Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie issued on Fathers Day.
Here&#8217;s what the savior of the US (SOTUS) said:
&#8220;Nurturing families come in many forms, and  children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two  fathers, a step  father, a grandfather, or caring guardian.&#8221;

In response, BCNN has placed a call to action on their website urging Christians to tell Obama he&#8217;s ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.blackchristiannews.com/news/" target="_blank">Black Christian News</a> is on it.</p>
<p>Via <a href="http://exministries.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/big-money-bishops-remain-silent-while-obama-pushes-the-envelope/" target="_blank">ExTimes</a>,  we learn that the site has issued a challenge to the nation&#8217;s prominent mega pastors to openly repudiate the Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie issued on Fathers Day.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the savior of the US (SOTUS) said:<br />
&#8220;Nurturing families come in many forms, and  children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two  fathers, a step  father, a grandfather, or caring guardian.&#8221;<br />
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In response, BCNN has placed a call to action on their website urging Christians to tell Obama he&#8217;s dead wrong on this.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Black Christian News has called for the nation’s “Megachurch Pastors  and Prophets of God to Publicly Rebuke this unwise President,” according  to its website. Explicitly the statement calls for T. D. Jakes, Eddie Long, Charles Black, Charles Stanley, Pat Robertson, Tony Evans, Al Sharpton, Kirbyjon Caldwell, Jesse Jackson, David Jeremiah, Frederick Haynes III, and others to stand up against what it sees as the progress of a homosexual agenda.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But will they do it? So far, not a peep.</p>
<p>Many Christians fail to realize (or want to realize) that Obama is the political equivalent of <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/67/does-the-inclusion-doctrine-include-all" target="_blank">Carlton Pearson</a>. His ideology is a political inclusion philosophy which (even as a self proclaimed Christian) drives him to devalue Christ as equal to other religious figures. The Word of God is used only as a social justice prop when convenient.</p>
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		<title>Official denominational positions on homosexuality</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A listing of the official positions on homosexuality from some Christian (name identified) denominations.
David Kyle Foster wrote in his revealing  1998 article The Summer of our Discontent&#8221; that the intent of gay activists has always been to subvert biblical teaching in order to have access to positions of influence within the church.
&#8220;Gay activism has carried over into the churches. For years homosexual  activists in many of the nation’s largest denominations have been insinuating  themselves into doctrinal discussions and decision-making processes in order to  overturn the idea that ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A listing of the official positions on homosexuality from some Christian (name identified) denominations.</p>
<p>David Kyle Foster wrote in his revealing  1998 article <a href="http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=11-06-048-r" target="_blank">The Summer of our Discontent</a>&#8221; that the intent of gay activists has always been to subvert biblical teaching in order to have access to positions of influence within the church.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Gay activism has carried over into the churches. For years homosexual  activists in many of the nation’s largest denominations have been insinuating  themselves into doctrinal discussions and decision-making processes in order to  overturn the idea that homosexual behavior is sinful. Gay activists have worked  hard to redefine morality, values, love, the family, and the meaning of the  biblical text itself.</p>
<p>When a denomination has failed to give them a voice, gay activists have  raised up their own organizations (e.g., Reconciling Congregations, Dignity,  Integrity, Affirmation, etc.), and have succeeded in portraying themselves as an  “oppressed minority” or “deprived victim underclass” in order to win  concessions. Often employed as a tactic of obfuscation, such posturing  unfortunately has turned the debate away from the real issues of brokenness and  morality. But how successful have they been in effecting a redefinition of  biblical morality?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Take a look what has happened since then. In this listing, the MCC, and the Family are included as wholly apostate Christian bodies. The majority of the links are to Religious Tolerance.org, a website which claims to list both the positive and negative aspects of religion.</p>
<p>You may be surprised at what some denominations believe about homosexuality and how close or far away they are from biblical truth.</p>
<p>Additionally, while the <strong>National Council of Churches</strong> has no specific statement affirming homosexuality, its leadership has affirmed the practice. Look <a href="http://www.ncccusa.org/members/" target="_blank">here</a> for a list of NCC members which include several African American denominations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_ang.htm">Anglican Church of  Canada</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_angl.htm" target="_blank">Anglican Communion</a>,  worldwide</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_aba.htm" target="_blank"><span>American Baptist  Association</span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_abc.htm" target="_blank">American Baptist Churches in  the USA</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_aog.htm" target="_blank">Assemblies of God</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_crc.htm" target="_blank">Christian Reformed Church in  North America</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_coc.htm" target="_blank">The Church of Christ</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_disc.htm" target="_blank">Christian Church</a> (Disciples of Christ)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_coe.htm" target="_blank"><span>Church of England </span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cogic.com/marriage-proclamation.html" target="_blank">Church of God in Christ</a> (scroll down)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_sco.htm" target="_blank">Church of Scotland</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_cbf.htm" target="_blank">Cooperative Baptist  Fellowship </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_copt.htm" target="_blank">Coptic Orthodox Church</a> (centered in Egypt)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_epis.htm" target="_blank"><span>Episcopal Church,  USA </span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_eccdc.htm" target="_blank">Evangelical Christian Church  (Christian Disciples) </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_elca.htm" target="_blank">Evangelical Lutheran Church  in America</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/homelcic.htm" target="_blank">Evangelical Lutheran Church  of Canada</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_dane.htm" target="_blank">Evangelical Lutheran Church  in Denmark</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/homthefam.htm" target="_blank">The Family</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hommeth.htm" target="_blank">Methodist Church in  Britain</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_met.htm" target="_blank">Metropolitan Community  Church</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_men.htm" target="_blank">Mennonites</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pru.htm" target="_blank"><span>Presbyterian Church  (USA)</span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pcia.htm" target="_blank"><span>Presbyterian Church  in America </span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_prc.htm" target="_blank">Presbyterian Church in  Canada</a></p>
<p><a href="hom_rca.htm">Reformed Church in America</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_rcn.htm" target="_self">Reformed Churches in the  Netherlands (RCN)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_sbc.htm" target="_blank"><span>Southern Baptist  Convention</span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_ucca.htm" target="_blank">United Church of Christ</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_ucc.htm" target="_blank">United Church of Canada</a></p>
<p><a href="hom_umc.htm">United Methodist Church</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_upci.htm" target="_blank">United Pentecostal Church  International</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_wcc.htm" target="_blank">World Council of Churches</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_wcg.htm" target="_blank">Worldwide Church of God</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.foursquare.org/" target="_blank">International Church of the Foursquare Gospel</a> (1993 Resolution)</p>
<blockquote><p>The Biblical record shows that sexual union was established exclusively  within the context of male-female relationship and formalized in the ordinance  of marriage. In the New Testament, the oneness of male and female in marriage  pictures the relationship between Christ and His Church. . . . The Scriptures  identify the practice of homosexuality as a sin that, if persisted in, brings  grave consequences in this life and excludes one from the Kingdom of God.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.efca.org/" target="_blank">The Evangelical Free Church of America</a> (1993 Resolution)</p>
<blockquote><p>“Homosexuality,” which was adopted by the General Conference in 1978. The  resolution is clear that neither ministers nor congregants who are involved in  the practice of homosexuality will be allowed in the fellowship and that no one  may “urge or concede that the state should give special protection or approval  to this practice or promote it as a matter of personal taste, free choice or  ‘sexual orientation’.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Addendum</strong>: Predominately African American and Latino churches rarely have &#8220;official positions&#8221; on homosexuality <em>per se</em>. Most have some sort of non-official condemnation of gay marriage, but no official resolutions on homosexuality itself. Generally, various leaders make statements almost in passing about the issue but nothing voted or confirmed upon by the organizations episcopal/governing electorates.</p>
<p>A 2007 <a href="http://pewforum.org/A-Religious-Portrait-of-African-Americans.aspx" target="_blank">Pew Forum</a> surveying African Americans Christians as a whole found that slightly less than half are opposed to homosexuality as a social issue.  But  as a biblical issue 73% in evangelical denominations were opposed to it. The survey did not segregate denominational groups.</p>
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		<title>2010 Trending: Unchurched Christians?</title>
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I found the results of this Barna survey very, very interesting. As if we don&#8217;t have enough cojoining labels already, here&#8217;s another one to deal with. From Ministry Today:

Nearly two-thirds of all unchurched  adults—people who have not attended a church activity in the last six  months—identified themselves as “Christians,” according to a recent  study by the Barna Group.
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">I found the results of this Barna survey very, very interesting. As if we don&#8217;t have enough cojoining labels already, here&#8217;s another one to deal with. From <a href="http://ministrytodaymag.com/index.php/ministry-news/65/18878" target="_blank">Ministry Today</a>:</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Nearly two-thirds of all unchurched  adults—people who have not attended a church activity in the last six  months—identified themselves as “Christians,” according to a recent  study by the Barna Group.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">The survey revealed that 28 percent of  the population—some 65 million adults—have not participated in any  church activities or services in the past six months. As many churches  try to attract this group to worship on Sunday, the study showed that  the makeup of unchurched Americans may be surprising.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">For example, 18 percent of unchurched  Americans say they are born again, that they have “made a personal  commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today”  and that they will go to heaven only because they have accepted Him as  their Savior. Two-thirds (68 percent) say God is the all-knowing,  all-powerful creator of the universe. However, slightly more than  one-third (35 percent) agree that the Bible is totally accurate in all  its principles, and only 15 percent say their religious faith is very  important in their life.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Demographically, among the unchurched,  women outnumber men, baby boomers and older generations outnumber  younger generations, and conservatives outnumber liberals.</p>
<p>Why does such a large group of people who  believe in God avoid church? The Barna Group claims that a previous  study may shed some light on the question. The study showed that 37  percent of non-churchgoing Americans avoid churches because of negative  past experiences in churches or with church people.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first question I have is can a person be an &#8220;unchurched&#8221; Christian? Its not clear who defined unchurched as &#8220;no church attendance in a continuous six month period&#8221;. But maybe redefinition is part of the problem. I&#8217;d always thought unchurched meant a person didnt &#8220;grow up&#8221; in the church and/or were never confessing believers in Christ. This six month deal is a bit shallow if you ask me, but nevertheless it is the basis of the survey&#8217;s results.</p>
<p>We had an eye opening <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/2977/is-church-where-it-should-be" target="_blank">discussion </a>that touched on this last year if you want to refresh, but let&#8217;s nail it down. You can hit on all or some of the questions if you like.  (1)Is church attendance mandatory for the maintenance of one&#8217;s salvation? (2) Is church attendance a prerequisite for salvation? (3) Do you think most church pastors are teaching mandatory church attendance because it is biblical or because they need the revenue of church attendees or both? (4) Is church attendance (to a designated building) the same as &#8220;assembling&#8221; indentified in Hebrews 10:25?</p>
<p>Other Barna survey stories at GCM Watch:<br />
<a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/3007/54-of-christian-blacks-in-barna-survey-believe-jesus-sinned">54% of &#8220;Christian&#8221; blacks in Barna survey believed Jesus sinned</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/2678/christian-pollster-barna-surveys-gay-christians" target="_blank">Christian pollster Barna surveys gay christians</a></p>
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		<title>COGIC bishop puts gay Tonex in the driver&#8217;s seat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Relax COGIC Memphis members, its one of the other COGIC denominations. Bishop Eric Figueroa, a clergy member of the Church of God in Christ, International allowed homosexual minister Anthony Williams aka Tonex to &#8220;preach&#8221; at his church. Since self identifying as a homosexual, Williams has become a fixture in the gay church movement. We don&#8217;t know the occasion, why or who was instrumental in causing this blasphemy to happen, but the facts are it did. It appears Tonex disguised himself with old church father robes and gave the church as ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax COGIC Memphis members, its one of the <em>other</em> COGIC denominations. <a href="http://www.bctinc.org/bio/Eric%20Figeuroa.htm" target="_blank">Bishop Eric Figueroa</a>, a clergy member of the Church of God in Christ, International allowed homosexual minister Anthony Williams aka Tonex to &#8220;preach&#8221; at his church. Since self identifying as a homosexual, Williams has become a fixture in the gay church movement. We don&#8217;t know the occasion, why or who was instrumental in causing this blasphemy to happen, but the facts are it did. It appears Tonex disguised himself with old church father robes and gave the church as real show.</p>
<p>BET gospel writer <strong>Torrence Glenn </strong>who attended the event, <a href="http://blogs.bet.com/ontv/thegospelaccordingto/2010/05/recap-tonex-preaches-in-brooklyn/" target="_blank">gushed at the opportunity</a> to praise Williams in his recap writeup:</p>
<blockquote><p>So to hear that a more traditional and pentecostal church such as New Life,  pastored by <em><strong>Bishop Eric Figueroa</strong></em> was inviting him to  their church was a shock to me. Being the Tonex fan that I am, I decided that  although it was short notice, I had to go! (Yeah, I don’t stop supporting people  just because it’s not popular to. Not my style.) Once I arrived at the church on  Monday night, I tweeted that I was there and MORE than a few people asked me to  recap it, so here goes. (I originally intended just to go for myself, not  necessarily to cover but I realized that more people than me were interested in  seeing/hearing what Tonex had to say.)</p>
<p>After the offering was taken and a guest choir sang a song, it was time for  Tonex (or Minister Anthony Williams as he prefers to be called as a minister) to  preach. He was dressed in a full liturgical preacher’s attire. He had on a navy  blue robe with a light blue panel. VERY traditional. Before beginning to preach  he sang a piece of Karen Clark-Sheard’s worship song, “God Is Here.” And when I  say he sang it, he SANG IT!</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s about it and as expected from people who devalue sound doctrine, the message (whatever it was) is sidelined in favor of performance techniques. to With all the <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/3380/sad-day-for-tonex" target="_blank">false teachings</a> Anthony Williams has spewed out in the past, Glenn ignored that to obsess over something else.  The musicians weren&#8217;t falling over themselves to back up Tonex on the organ, etc.  Read it for yourself:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This may be my personal observation/opinion but it seemed the musicians on duty  weren’t very willing to help or follow as the sermon came to it’s climax. I  understand that some preachers don’t like accompaniment when they preach and  many  musicians will wait until the preacher instructs them to play for him/her  instead of just flowing with it. Better safe then sorry I guess is their thought  process. But this was a totally different thing. There were moments where  Anthony had to tell them the chords to play and they hesitantly played the chord  and then just stopped. (Imagine if someone told you to pick up a piece of paper  and you did and just put it down instead of doing something with it.) It was as  if they needed to be told every little thing to do. It was odd because they were  seasoned musicians who “know church.” But I may be wrong, this is just my  opinion, but it felt like they had to be forced to participate in the closing  praise experience that followed Anthony’s message. So to all my musicians, if  you feel some kind of way about who’s preaching, get off the instruments!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar with what Glenn is having a problem with, let me explain. In the black church, particularly pentecostal ones, when the preacher shifts into a certain sing-song cadence of speaking (heading towards the &#8220;climax&#8221; of his or her message), the musicians are expected to jump in and match them in intensity. Here&#8217;s an example <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOdxo7FSyTk" target="_blank">here</a> (listen to the music). One would think that with a self professed homosexual preaching, one would not be caught up about what musicians were or were not doing. But such is the shallowness of today&#8217;s church goer. The musicians may have not initially wanted to participate in another man&#8217;s sins, but they too probably got caught up in the pentecostal histrionics of Tonex.</p>
<p><em>Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men&#8217;s  sins: keep thyself pure.</em> 1 Tim 5:22</p>
<p><strong>Who&#8217;s Bishop Figueroa?</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try to sort out all the connecting names so that no one is slighted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bishopfig.JPG"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4831" title="bishopfig" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bishopfig-182x259-custom.JPG" alt="bishopfig" width="182" height="259" /></a>Glenn admits all this is somewhat surprising since Figueroa&#8217;s church is known as &#8220;traditional&#8221;. According to Glenn, Figueroa&#8217;s daughter who sings background on Sunday Best show, tweeted the news out like it was Bishop Mason returning from the dead. Traditional?</p>
<p>Another source told GCM Watch Figueroa is mainly known in the New York area.</p>
<p>&#8220;When I lived in NY years back I&#8217;d see his name and his church&#8217;s name a lot in the main Christian newspaper which I used to receive monthly, taking out large ads advertising their various events convocations, etc. He might not be that well known nationally, but in NY black church circles he seemed to command a lot of respect from various other well known churches, leaders, bishops, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Figueroa&#8217;s <a href="http://www.myspace.com/newlifetabernacle1476" target="_blank">Myspace site </a>says he was consecrated a bishop in the Church of God in Christ International in 1998 and currently serves as bishop of the New York &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221; of said denomination.  This is <strong>not</strong> the COGIC Intl headquartered in Jonesboro, AR.  This particular strand of COGIC breakaways has its headquarters in New York and primarily sprang out of the famed Institutional COGIC headed by the grandfather of <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4793/its-gay-holy-convocation-time-again-featuring-monique-walker" target="_blank">Monique Walker</a>. Its now headed by <a href="http://www.cathedralofpraisecogic.org/" target="_blank">Bishop JC White</a>, a former member of the Institutional Church.   White has not made any public statements about the appearance of an openly homosexual minister in one of his churches.</p>
<p>So what do we make of all this? The same as we have been saying many times before. We are in the midst of a great falling away where the so called church is becoming a habitation of demons, unclean spirits and every unclean work. But guess what? They all &#8220;love the Lord&#8221; and gonna &#8220;get their praise on&#8221; no matter who says what.</p>
<p>And I heard another voice from heaven saying, &#8216;Come out of her, my people, lest  you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have  reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities&#8217;&#8221; (Revelation 18:4,5).</p>
<p>h/t:Paul</p>
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