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Nine fallen ‘exgay’ leaders seek spotlight with therapy ban alliance

This week  Time Magazine published an awfully lazy, undocumented, unsubstantiated,  patently biased article about nine former “exgay leaders” who are all now working for the gay establishment. The article is full of the type of generalized, cut and paste conjecture that liberals have become known for when addressing sexuality issues. Writer Maya Rhodan really ought to petition Time to scrub this article from their site and restore the sacred white space to its original purity, but I doubt that will happen. As a black woman Rhodan should know how deep racism and discrimination can run in this country and its sad that she would write this and neglect to do even basic homework. But I guess a paycheck is more important that truth, huh sistah?  At any rate, this really isn’t about the shoddy article, but about the people mentioned in it and their unchallenged claims.

Its said of the fallen nine that they all now vociferously oppose so called “conversion therapy” or whatever dubious name gay activists and their religious left allies have dubbed it.

The nine are all white men and women. Yvette Schneider, Brad Allen, Darlene Bogle, Michael Bussee, Catherine fallen nineChapman, Jeremy Marks, Bill Prickett, Tim Rymel, and John Smid.  Most have connections to the former Exodus organization which fell ingloriously into oblivion last year. Some have been “apologizing” mainly because gay activists force them to do so if they want to have positive blogs written about them.  They’ve now formed some type of reality show alliance to help ban therapy for sexual identity issues in all 50 states.

Thankfully, I was never  part of this inner workings of Exodus. Particularly after Alan Chambers rose to “power”, Exodus trended 99.8% white and he kept it that way so I didnt personally know any of these people. Its rather funny that none of them are apologizing for Exodus’ racist exclusion of blacks in leadership.  I have, over the course of the years seen them be seduced by the lie, fall, wallow and then relish themselves in it.  Its a predictable outcome. Believing a lie always ends the same for every person who embraces it.  These nine are no exception and certainly not worthy of any celebration because of their failures. They are to be sincerely pitied.

Some have really went to excesses not only just emerging from their Exodus/exgay experience with bitterness but to live an embittered life which seems to drive them to do and say whatever it takes to satisfy their new gay rights comrades.  Isn’t that just trading one enslaving brokenness for another?

  • Michael Bussee claims he was a “founder” of Exodus but the recorded facts prove he was little more than a volunteer who assisted in contacting people to come to the first meeting. But his bitterness and the insatiable desire for the homosexual movement to stamp out any “exgay” embers, made him an attractive manipulation tool. And his own failure to RESOLVE his sexual dysfunctions and discipline himself like EVERY believer is commanded to do in 1 Thessalonians 4:1-7 says that perhaps he only had a bystander type of religious experience which could not sustain him when temptations challenged him. I also wonder when Bussee will ever apologize for his racism while in Exodus?
  • The same can be said of John Smid. For years he followed company policy even though he knew (according to him) he was contributing to a lie but for some reason he held on and dutifully promised people they could be “straight”. It was only a matter of time before the insistent homosexuals beat down his door, dismantled his weak defenses, exploited his fragile self worth and convinced him that such beliefs are altogether impossible. Their solution? Trade your professional exgay shill status and for a professional gay shill status.  The rest is sad history.

I was familiar perhaps moreso with Yvette Cantu before she married. Though we never met, I noticed her more for some unexplained reason.  She always seemed to be confident, articulate and stable.  Her book Never Not Broken chronicles a family incident that led her down a bizarre path and into the dark world of soothsayers, mystic guides and mythological beliefs. How ironic that the blind guides she sought out to help her in her family tragedy led her into shipwreck.

Yvette Cantu Schneider descends into the abyss of her own psyche after her young daughter’s leukemia diagnosis. Desperate for relief from ceaseless panic, she sees a psychotherapist who introduces her to guided imagery meditation to heal trauma. Over the course of her daughter’s 28-month treatment, Cantu Schneider encounters in meditation, animals, goddesses and other guides who show her that it is the wounded feminine within her that pushed her to find meaning and acceptance in a rigid religious structure and to become a spokesperson for controversial socio-political causes. As Cantu Schneider struggles to heal from difficult events from her childhood, the abuses and hypocrisies of religious leaders, and the effects of her own denial of the feminine divine, she discovers her true self. In the end, she finds that life’s healing power is that we are all never not broken.”

That’s just plain creepy. The irony of it all begs an explanation. Schneider gets therapy to sort out her issues with the tragic illness of her child, but wants to deny another parent the right to seek out therapy for their child to sort out issues with sexual identity.

NO CREDIBILITY

These fallen ex-leaders lost credibility because they couldnt maintain their own personal discipline as Christians. Thats the real story. Now they want to gays to grant them redemption by slicing at the hopes of other people who want help to live in peace. Their failures are just that. Their failures. It would be much more respectable to just admit you failed and then talk about your own failures without trying to slime others who haven’t failed.

Anne Paulk who heads the Restored Hope Network wrote:  “The nine individuals who came together to try to eliminate teens’ opportunity to find counseling for unwanted same-sex attractions, yet did not go through good professional Christian counseling are writing responses on our page. We have heard from 3 of them: Darlene Bogle, Tim Rymel and now John Smid. I knew Darlene at the end of her experience of leaving homosexuality and noticed an impending return back in California many years ago. Tim is a sweet guy who left homosexuality at the same ministry as I in California under the leadership of John Smid. Tim led worship for a number of events with the ministry. He married, had children and then returned to the gay life and a homosexual relationship. The history with John Smid is much more extensive. He married my roommate and was married a bit longer than I, divorcing his lovely wife last year for another man.  He also ran a ministry that was actually brought up on lawsuits related to harm. So perhaps he should not have been running interventions and family therapy when he himself was not clinically trained. Could he be desiring to ban whatever he was misusing?”

None of the nine ever substantiate their claims with any specific information.  None ever speak of an authentic personal experience with Jesus. Its as if they appeared out of nowhere and signed some exgay right to work contract. None of them ever cite where they actually engaged in the type of counseling they are seeking to restrict.   Eventually all of them will die and have to face God on the other side of death. We will see if God will accept their apologies as legitimate.

 

 

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EXlesbian Janet Boynes to address Hispanic Pastors Convention in San Diego

From the Christian Post, a sound and seasoned interview with Janet Boynes prior to her addressing an upcoming Una Voz Hispanic Pastors Convention in San Diego.

CP: What is your message to Hispanic pastors about LGBT issues at the NHCLC conference?

Boynes: My message to Hispanic Pastors is to have compassion without compromise. We are to be compassionate towards someone who is living a homosexual lifestyle. It’s important to love them where they’re at without caving into their beliefs and philosophies. The Bible says, “God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance,” Romans 2:4 (RSV). We are to teach those that struggle with same-sex attraction the word of God and also exercise grace and become knowledgeable about the issue because homosexuality is the elephant in the room we can no longer ignore.

janet-boynesCP: How can churches embrace LGBT individuals who are seeking a genuine change without having them feel ostracized within the congregation?

Boynes: I would say the first thing is to teach churches that we all fall short. Their sin (homosexuality) might be more visible but we all struggle with one thing or another. It is our responsibility as the body of Christ to surround them with support because when they have cut out those connected with the homosexual lifestyle from their life, they are left with a tremendous void. We need to be constant reminders of God’s unconditional love, and be willing to put in the time to help those who are walking out of this lifestyle, be available to them and hold them accountable so they can grow to be mature in their walk with God.

CP: How should pastors address the topic of homosexuality within church?

Boynes: Pastors should consult with the experts working in this area, in other words, get informed. It would be wise to prepare your congregations on how to work with those who are struggling in your church. Be transparent and compassionate about this issue from the pulpit, but don’t sway from what the Bible says. We don’t want people to change from gay to heterosexual, but to become whole. If someone who is living a homosexual life is sitting in church under the power of the word his or her life will not remain the same.

CP: What is your take on individuals who consider themselves Christian yet lead a homosexual lifestyle such as openly gay clergy members?

Boynes: There are many “voices” today in our culture. The media, movies, political and educational systems, and even some churches try to influence our beliefs and attitudes regarding homosexuality with views that are not based on a sound Biblical understanding. Even well intentioned people such as family and friends can give advice lacking Bible truth. Without a foundation based on scripture, we become “tossed to and from by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by the craftiness in deceitful scheming” (Ephesians 4:14). This has never been as evident as it is in answering the question, “can a Christian also be gay?”

Can there be a gay Christian? Yes, a true born-again believer can struggle with homosexuality. Yes, true born-again believers can fall into momentary rebellion in a homosexual relationship the same way one can fall into momentary rebellion in a heterosexual relationship. But repentance, an evidence of the Holy Spirit, will be ever present with a true believer for the Holy Spirit’s role is to convict and purify believers, and complete His good work.

However, to honestly believe oneself to be gay and to be living in or presumptuously practicing a homosexual lifestyle, the answer is no, a true born again believer cannot be a gay Christian. To claim to be a gay Christian as opposed to one who struggles, would be equivalent to someone claiming to be a Christian Muslim or a Christian Satanist, it’s oxymoronic. Two conflicting identities cannot cohabit as one agreeable identity; that is schizophrenia. It is God’s will that His born-again children be pure from sexual sin, and anyone who rejects this truth rejects God.

CP: What do you say to someone who doubts that change can occur in a person living as a gay individual?

Boynes: I would say look at my life, I have walked in freedom for sixteen years. I, along with many others, have experienced the redemptive power of Jesus. We are no longer slaves to sin, we are free to live in the fullness of all that He has for us. I’m not claiming that it is an easy process, however it is worth it. Grace empowers us to serve God acceptably; it empowers us to purify ourselves from what we could not purify ourselves from in our own ability. When we set our eyes on Jesus everything else falls short in light of all that He offers us. I am no longer searching for my identity because everything I need is found in Him, and everything I am is because of Him!

False prophet Carlton Pearson defensive about being called gay

False prophet du jour Carlton Pearson used to be pentecostalism’s golden boy. Then, he found a wooden nickel and began a crusade to prove that wooden nickels have more value than gold. He’s never been the same since. Strangely, in a March 26th facebook post, Pearson defends his heterosexuality. Strange because he gives no reason as to why he has to defend it. But his defensiveness does bring to scrutiny an oft used accusation against people who preach against homosexuality. Over and over homosexuals (especially the religious type) assert that those who oppose homosexuality are secretly homosexual themselves. They are “repressed closet cases” they say. But what of those who obsessively advocate for homosexuality? Wouldn’t the logic apply to them as well? It did in this case. Apparently, its been put to the test and Carlton Pearson is upset and on the defensive.

His words follow, verbatim:

pearsonI am not gay, but wouldn’t apologize nor be ashamed if I were. I love my wife dearly and have been married to her for over 20 years. We have scores of married and single gay friends we love and respect. You don’t have to be gay to love gay people and even hang out some with them. You don’t have to be a divorcee to love, support and respect them. Neither do you have to be Muslim or Jewish to have friends from those religious disciplines. As Inclusionists, we teach that we don’t have to go along to get along and that we can mind many of the same things without necessarily having the same mind about everything. Inclusionists believe Peace is possible, both individually and globally.
Jesus was accused of eating with “sinners” (Mark 2:15) and protecting prostitutes and adulteresses from the stones of the religious right of his day, called Pharisees. The word Pharisee translates “separatist” or “separated” in both Hebrew and Greek. I am an Inclusionist and proudly so.
Many of my self-righteous detractors accuse me of being gay because I am so outspokenly supportive of gays. Next to the Jewish community, the same gender loving (SGL) community were the first to reach out to me after hearing my Gospel of Inclusion. Do these same people, suspicious of my sexuality, also say I am atheist, a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Scientologist because I hang with, love and accept them all and others, including those hypocritical so- called Christians who hate themselves and everyone else?
I’m not preaching false doctrine, just exposing it while dealing with some 2000 years of entrenched and mostly erroneous indoctrination. I love Christ and so- called “Christian values” but those taught more by Christ than most Christians.
It both amazes and amuses me that so many Christians simply cannot believe that someone loves unconditionally in the way they like to proclaim Jesus taught and did. Most so-called “people of faith” actually have more fear than faith or more faith in their fears than in God. Or perhaps when I say God as it relates to fundamentalists, it is commensurate to fear of God or faith in their fear of his wrath, in effect is their worst fear. Their God, in order to keep them from sinning, something they presumably would prefer and habitually do, threatens to send them to an eternal customized torture chamber. I once feared that god and his hell too, but I no longer do and I don’t even believe in that manmade and presumably bible supported god or his hell. Even the heaven I believe in is not the one in the Christian bible. That one is too gaudy for my taste. I never liked the streets of gold thing. Reminds me too much of my old TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Stage). BTW, my dear 84 year old mother keeps one of the 3 TVs in her bedroom tuned to TBN 24/7 Lol! . I actually prefer sands and beaches to walls of Jasper and topaz as the book of Revelation describes and prescribes. And why would heaven need walls anyway? Moreover, as I close, most gays I know are much more like Christ than many of the Christians I know. And most of my same gender loving (SGL) friends, both male and female, seem to be better (not bitter) and more responsible and loving Christians than most common fundamentalists. Same is true of many of the non-Christian SGL people. I could say the same thing about several of my atheist, Jewish and Muslim friends as well. Again, this is not a criticism, but an observation and an important one that must not be ignored. Being in church or a church no more makes you Christlike than being in a garage makes you an automobile. What say ye?

This is nothing more that perverse and self serving apologetics. Pearson has so deeply invested himself in his inclusion delusion, he may never recover from it. We can only hope he will, but the father of lies has a hook in his mouth and God may just allow it to remain in place. Still, Pearson has a following. That’s not necessarily a good thing, because Jim Jones had a following as well. If one does not escape the clutches of a false teacher it will lead to death: most certainly spiritual and sometimes naturally.

Atlanta minister Mark Moore writes that Pearson’s inclusion delusion will force the church to abandon its foundational anchors.

“To view inclusion as a viable Christian doctrine, we would have to throw away the Old Testament and its big mean God who had the nerve to punish people. We would need to censor the radical Jesus of the Gospels on that whole “must be born again” thing and silence Paul and his admonition to “come out from among them.” We would certainly have to walk through revelations with a white out paint brush and cover up all of that lake of fire and judgment stuff. In short, we would have to completely disregard the word of God in order to make inclusion make sense. Jesus is not simply a way, He is the only way. Yet and still, it seems that more and more people are living lives and promoting lifestyles that suggest Bishop Pearson was right in his assertion that the church is moving closer to his position.”

For more on Pearson and his journey into ignominy see our past reports here, here and here.

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