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Notable Quotes: Pastor JD Greear

jdgreearResponding to the level of vitriol by progay supporters against profreedom Christian preachers, the Pastor JD Greear of Summit Church in said at the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Summit “Preaching against homosexuality is about as popular as preaching against slavery in South Carolina in the 1800s.”

EXlesbian Janet Boynes to address Hispanic Pastors Convention in San Diego

From the Christian Post, a sound and seasoned interview with Janet Boynes prior to her addressing an upcoming Una Voz Hispanic Pastors Convention in San Diego.

CP: What is your message to Hispanic pastors about LGBT issues at the NHCLC conference?

Boynes: My message to Hispanic Pastors is to have compassion without compromise. We are to be compassionate towards someone who is living a homosexual lifestyle. It’s important to love them where they’re at without caving into their beliefs and philosophies. The Bible says, “God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance,” Romans 2:4 (RSV). We are to teach those that struggle with same-sex attraction the word of God and also exercise grace and become knowledgeable about the issue because homosexuality is the elephant in the room we can no longer ignore.

janet-boynesCP: How can churches embrace LGBT individuals who are seeking a genuine change without having them feel ostracized within the congregation?

Boynes: I would say the first thing is to teach churches that we all fall short. Their sin (homosexuality) might be more visible but we all struggle with one thing or another. It is our responsibility as the body of Christ to surround them with support because when they have cut out those connected with the homosexual lifestyle from their life, they are left with a tremendous void. We need to be constant reminders of God’s unconditional love, and be willing to put in the time to help those who are walking out of this lifestyle, be available to them and hold them accountable so they can grow to be mature in their walk with God.

CP: How should pastors address the topic of homosexuality within church?

Boynes: Pastors should consult with the experts working in this area, in other words, get informed. It would be wise to prepare your congregations on how to work with those who are struggling in your church. Be transparent and compassionate about this issue from the pulpit, but don’t sway from what the Bible says. We don’t want people to change from gay to heterosexual, but to become whole. If someone who is living a homosexual life is sitting in church under the power of the word his or her life will not remain the same.

CP: What is your take on individuals who consider themselves Christian yet lead a homosexual lifestyle such as openly gay clergy members?

Boynes: There are many “voices” today in our culture. The media, movies, political and educational systems, and even some churches try to influence our beliefs and attitudes regarding homosexuality with views that are not based on a sound Biblical understanding. Even well intentioned people such as family and friends can give advice lacking Bible truth. Without a foundation based on scripture, we become “tossed to and from by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by the craftiness in deceitful scheming” (Ephesians 4:14). This has never been as evident as it is in answering the question, “can a Christian also be gay?”

Can there be a gay Christian? Yes, a true born-again believer can struggle with homosexuality. Yes, true born-again believers can fall into momentary rebellion in a homosexual relationship the same way one can fall into momentary rebellion in a heterosexual relationship. But repentance, an evidence of the Holy Spirit, will be ever present with a true believer for the Holy Spirit’s role is to convict and purify believers, and complete His good work.

However, to honestly believe oneself to be gay and to be living in or presumptuously practicing a homosexual lifestyle, the answer is no, a true born again believer cannot be a gay Christian. To claim to be a gay Christian as opposed to one who struggles, would be equivalent to someone claiming to be a Christian Muslim or a Christian Satanist, it’s oxymoronic. Two conflicting identities cannot cohabit as one agreeable identity; that is schizophrenia. It is God’s will that His born-again children be pure from sexual sin, and anyone who rejects this truth rejects God.

CP: What do you say to someone who doubts that change can occur in a person living as a gay individual?

Boynes: I would say look at my life, I have walked in freedom for sixteen years. I, along with many others, have experienced the redemptive power of Jesus. We are no longer slaves to sin, we are free to live in the fullness of all that He has for us. I’m not claiming that it is an easy process, however it is worth it. Grace empowers us to serve God acceptably; it empowers us to purify ourselves from what we could not purify ourselves from in our own ability. When we set our eyes on Jesus everything else falls short in light of all that He offers us. I am no longer searching for my identity because everything I need is found in Him, and everything I am is because of Him!

The ‘Imago Dei’ campaign has another face

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A very good read and alternative perspective on Rev. Samuel Rodriguez’ Imago Dei campaign. The religious PR effort was launched to widespread fanfare, but all is not what it seems according to Dr. Robert Gagnon, a top Christian theologian. Rodriguez  said his intent was only to end the “rhetorical bullying” and facilitate “redemptive and reconciliatory” interactions — not to “condone any behavior” or “endorse anything that runs counter to a biblical worldview.”

Although he drops a new social buzzword, Rodriguez doesn’t provide any examples of “rhetorical bullying”. For instance is it “rhetorical bullying” to say publicly that homosexuality is a sin and homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God?” Or is he referring to the Westboro Baptist Church?

The ID campaign’s ideology also includes a fair measure of diaprax.  Diaprax is an emergent church concept which attempts to forge unity between believers and nonbelievers under a false banner.

Writing in the Christian Post, Gagnon acknowledges the campaign as “well meaning, but flawed”. In particular the ID tries to hard to diminish the severity of homosexuality by couching it as some benign social disparity like the homeless. The problem is that ID is more about —as a previous article stated— converting Christians on the issue of homosexuality than it is about converting homosexuals by the gospel of Christ.

The ID seems to be a religious version of the famous Rodney King line “Cant we all just get along?”

I appreciate the fact that this “campaign” apparently continues to view homosexual practice as sin (though in extremely muted tones) and that it wants to promote love for those who engage in it. However, its half-orbed message that “the image of God exists in all human beings: black and white; rich and poor; straight and gay; conservative and liberal; victim and perpetrator; citizen and undocumented; believer and unbeliever” is flawed.

It lumps together very different categories. There is nothing intrinsically immoral about ethnicity, social status, party affiliation, citizen status, or even the mere experience of sexual attractions to do what God forbids.

I have a suggestion: In order to make clearer the message that affirmation of one’s creation in the image of God does not lead to support for all behaviors, the organizers of the campaign should add something more explicit like: “serial pedophiles, rapists, murderers, and the people they victimize.

The framers of the document probably won’t be amending anything they wrote but in case they are interested in comprehensive critique, here it is:

(1) It appears to regard a strong expression of disapproval of homosexual practice as equally at fault with a strong expression of its approval.

(2) It fails to address the crucial point that homosexual activity, like egregious immorality generally, threatens to mar the image of God stamped on people, dishonoring and degrading what God created in his image by treating another’s gender as only half intact in relation to its own sex.

The theme of marring the image of God is clear enough from Genesis 1:27 where the proclamation of the Imago Dei is immediately followed by an implicit affirmation of a male-female requirement for sexual relations: “In the image of God he created [the human] / male and female he created them.” It is clear too from Romans 1:24-27 where Paul speaks of the “dishonoring” or “degrading” effect of males having sex with males and females with females, with Gen 1:27 echoed in the background.

(3) This “campaign” will do nothing to stifle the advance of coercive and abusive homosexualism in this country but may deceive many faithful Christians into silencing their own resistance to this advance as incompatible both with a positive proclamation of “a relationship with God … through Christ” and with “loving actions,” as mere “rhetorical bullying” and “polarizing rhetoric” toward the “marginalized” and the “oppressed.”

As Gagnon pointed out the false unity espoused by the ID is a sad reality of the contemporary church’s lust to hold hands with sinners in an attempt to make them comfortable and less resistant to the church’s “love is all we need” message. It is an epic failure. Offering sinners love and friendship while treating truth like a red-haired stepchild, is a grave disservice to their souls.

The Imago Dei hasn’t moved any mountains. Homosexuals and liberals have had a blase reaction to it. The only ones who seemed to be celebrating its release are Christians who desperately want the homosexual community to accept them. Like its predecessors, the Covenant of Civility , the Manhattan Declaration and the abominable Affirmation Declaration, the Imago Dei campaign will become another sad example of failed religion attempting to circumvent the Great Commission.

 

Pastor Dwight McKissic: When Saints live in Sodom

mckissicPastor Dwight McKissic’s new blog post  is an insightful look at the past and the present. Its a significant blueprint for the 21st century church that strives to remain true to the will of God as we navigate growing governmental acceptance of homosexuality and the specter of persecution that waits silently in the wings.

In it, the influential black Southern Baptist pastor of Cornerstone Church in Arlington, Texas asks “How Should Kingdom Citizens Relate to Gay and A New Gay-Friendly America?”

The righteous of our day have been seemingly transported back to the spirit and age that existed in ancient sodom where perversion and the disregard for life were the dominant vices that gripped the region’s residents. Most may not realize that Sodom was prosperous and influential by modern standards. It was one of the reasons Lot was attracted to the area. Besides its moral perversion, Ezekiel pointed out that one of the city’s  fatal flaws that it had ‘excess of food and prosperous” (ESV) but had no concern for those suffering. (16:49)

Saints of today are increasing confronted by the challenges of a new sodom. Homosexuality is seen as a virtue to be celebrated and affirmed. Those who refuse to dance to the music are marginalized, demonized and subjected to punitive actions by the state.  Clearly, things have changed wrote Pastor McKissic.

“The world that I was born into in 1956 did not officially and affirmatively recognize a “gay” person as a sociological category that merited celebration, congratulations, affirmation, special rights in addition to civil rights, minority status, entitlements, or any of the like. Heretofore, identity and recognition as a human being, American citizen, male or female, a member of a people group, religious affiliation, or your Daddy’s name, was sufficient. Within the past decade, the U.S. military, pulpits, POTUS, SCOTUS, Halls of Congress, popular votes in certain states, the public school systems, and the NFL, have all upheld policies and affirmed same-sex relationships and homosexuality. We are all having to accept the fact that in the New America, there is a new demographic called “Gay American,” that are recognized as a legitimate, official, respected people group by all major American Institutions—including many church leaders and some (mainly liberal) denominations. The social acceptance of homosexuality has occurred in America primarily within the past ten years—from the fall of Gov. McGreevey to the rise of Mr. Michael Sam.”

While some churches and religious individuals are selling out and endorsing homosexual behavior sight unseen, others are digging in and throwing more condemnation wood on the fire. Pastor McKissic writes that those two extremes do not reflect the truth of scripture.

So, how do Kingdom citizens relate to gay and a new gay-friendly America? What are saints to do now that we recognize that we live in Sodom? I’ll tell you what we must do. We must love the homosexual unconditionally, while we preach and practice grace, love, and truth uncompromisingly.

1. First, we must acknowledge that at least three Scriptures indicate, or suggest that homosexual relationships would be widely accepted and approved of before Christ returns.

2. Not only are saints to accept the fact that living in Sodom is an inevitable biblical reality or prophesy coming true, we must also be like the two witnesses in Revelation and speak the truth in love to all who ask about our faith, or our belief in the Judeo-Christian concept of marriage between one man and one woman.

3. Finally, the best offense is a good defense. Seattle just proved that in the Super Bowl. Therefore, the remnant faith community needs to strengthen the bonds of our marriages.

Part prophetic and part introspective correction, the solution is one that wise saints will embrace, share and practice in these coming days.  The only thing I would add to Pastor McKissic’s counsel is be prepared to exit Sodom quickly when our call comes.

Read the entire When Saints live in Sodom

 

 

 

 

Notable Quotes: Bishop Paul Morton

Atlanta based  recording artist, author and the founding and former presiding bishop of the Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship, Bishop Pau502455l Morton tweeting in response to instances of marriage perversion on the Grammy awards show.
“I woke up mad at the devil! The world has many influential people speaking for same sex marriage what they want but not a lot of influential preachers talking about what God wants. Preachers who claim to Represent God it’s time to come out of the closet. same sex marriage on family TV was over the top we should be blowing twitter up.”

Pastor David Slautterback expels unrepentant homosexual from congregation

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Discipline is something religious homosexuals aka gay christians reject without even so much as a thought. The god they subscribe to is too loving to hold them accountable for anything they do or say. This god’s love has zero accountability. Consequently, any scriptures that require discipline, accountability, judgment, discernment, holiness, sexual purity, self control, or personal responsibility are summarily rejected. This is because religious homosexuals have been seduced by the sexual orientation lie.  The sexual orientation lie says that homosexuality is a gift from God. You are made the way you are and nothing can change that. Furthermore, anything you do and say as a result of  your sexual orientation is exempt from any correction.

If a church can’t discipline its members according to the directives of the scriptures, it will open itself up to all forms of rebellion and apostasy.  A case in Pennsylvania is showing just how difficult it will be for pastors who allow unrepentant homosexuals to dictate the terms of acceptance in the fellowship of the saints.

Bobbie Pierce, 20, of Mount Wolf, said he is being denied membership and communion at Ambassador’s Bible Chapel in Newberry Township because he is gay. Pierce said he has attended the church for years, and he was baptized there.
Pastor David Slautterback said that he and other church elders removed Pierce from the church’s membership — and announced that fact to the congregation during the church service last Sunday — because Pierce has failed to have a change of mind concerning his sexuality.

Slautterback said Friday that he and the other elders want Pierce to repent for his sin and to return to fellowship at the church, where he is still welcome to attend as long as he does not cause division or speak contrary to scripture.

Pierce said he has attended the church for years, and he was baptized there.

Pastor David Slautterback said that he and other church elders removed Pierce from the church’s membership — and announced that fact to the congregation during the church service last Sunday — because Pierce has failed to have a change of mind concerning his sexuality.

Slautterback said Friday that he and the other elders want Pierce to repent for his sin and to return to fellowship at the church, where he is still welcome to attend as long as he does not cause division or speak contrary to scripture.

Slautterback said neither he nor other members of his church hate Pierce. “We placed Bobbie under church discipline out of love for Bobbie and regard for his soul,” Slautterback said.

You should be mourning, instead you are puffed up

Just like the situation in 1 Cor 5, the offender found others who supported him in his outrageous sexual sin. Pierce, instead of submitting to the pastor’s discipline as a voluntary member,  threw out suggestive accusations of suicide. That was backed up not by scripture but by “research” and attempts to paint the church as hateful.

Pierce posted on the York Daily Record’s Facebook page a letter he said he received from the church. He said he decided to talk about what was happening with him because he wants others to know they’re not alone.

“I’ve heard so many stories of someone who is homosexual who has a strict Christian family, who commits suicide,” Pierce said. He admitted that he has felt that way a few times, but his friends have helped him to feel better.

Pierce said he hasn’t chosen to be gay. He said he’s done research, looking up scripture and interpretations of scripture online. He believes he is a Christian, and said “homosexuality isn’t a sin, it isn’t a choice.”

Slautterback disagrees. He said he thinks that Pierce can and should change.

“I do not believe that a homosexual person has to be homosexual any more than I believe that a person who is inclined to steal steals,” Slautterback said.

Pierce said he plans to continue attending Ambassador’s Bible Chapel “to show that I’m going to rise above the hate, or at least I’m not afraid.

Via personal experience with Christ, the church is a place of  ongoing change and transformation.  While we are all still subject to sin, at the very least acknowledging our actions as sin help to keep us spiritually transformative. Sadly homosexuals want not only to remain unchanged, but want the church to throw away one it is most fundamental tenets.

Pastor Slautterback and his staff responded in a way that was fair, biblical and loving. Mr. Peirce’s soul is at stake and its an act of love to hold him accountable for his sins if he is to remain part of the family of faith.

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