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		<title>NO more moralistic theraputic deism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Juanita Bynum can keep her sheets. But please mam, for God&#8217;s sakes stop the madness.
Unfortunately,  there&#8217;s scant evidence to suggest she will. So here we go again with &#8220;No More Sheets&#8221;.  And look who&#8217;s joining her to tell us all that all we  need is a good dose of celebrating ourselves.
Jonathan Nelson who recently appeared with inclusion heretic Carlton Pearson
Dorinda Clark Cole of the How Sweet the Sound controversy.
Darrell Hines. Cant help but be disappointed in this after the &#8220;holiness is right&#8221; speech on TBN. Et tu Bishop?
Is it ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jbm-nmores.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5031" title="jbm-nmores" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jbm-nmores-319x478-custom.jpg" alt="jbm-nmores" width="319" height="478" /></a> Juanita Bynum can keep her sheets. But please mam, for God&#8217;s sakes stop the madness.</p>
<p>Unfortunately,  there&#8217;s scant evidence to suggest she will. So here we go again with &#8220;No More Sheets&#8221;.  And look who&#8217;s joining her to tell us all that all we  need is a good dose of celebrating ourselves.</p>
<p>Jonathan Nelson who <a href="http://www.pr.com/press-release/248549" target="_blank">recently appeared </a>with inclusion heretic Carlton Pearson</p>
<p>Dorinda Clark Cole of the<a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/5017/gay-choir-wins-how-sweet-the-sound-gospel-competition" target="_blank"> How Sweet the Sound</a> controversy.</p>
<p>Darrell Hines. Cant help but be disappointed in this after the &#8220;holiness is right&#8221; <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4843/wanted-a-radical-return-to-holiness" target="_blank">speech on TBN</a>. <em>Et tu</em> Bishop?</p>
<p>Is it the money? Do these people not care about what Juanita Bynum is <a href="http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/jbvid.html" target="_blank"><strong>doing</strong> </a>and <strong><a href="http://bethelburnett.blogspot.com/2010/07/we-are-crying-for-you-juanita-iiwhat.html" target="_blank">saying</a></strong>? Are they in agreement with her lunacy? Are they in such a deep vacuum of seclusion they have not seen and heard?</p>
<p>Do they just need to keep their faces out in the public with these appearances to help sell CDs and products? All of the featured faces except Woods has a new CD product on the market. Is this just one big CD sellfest disguised as a conference about dealing with sexual issues or whatever it is Miss Bynum is hawking now? Notice there&#8217;s no scripture references on the flyer. That&#8217;s so the tag is open to whatever interpretation you think it means. A scripture would add restrictions.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;preferred seating&#8221; thing still is just so very weird for a church gathering.</p>
<p><em>My brethren, you must not make distinctions between one man and another while  you are striving to maintain faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, who is our glory</em>. James 2:1</p>
<p>This conference is aping the new american religion with its  &#8221; its all about you&#8221; message.  Its a trending favorite of all the preachers turned life coach gurus. I was at a seminar last weekend and heard a term I&#8217;d never heard before describe the state of American Christianity. Its called <strong>Moralistic Therapeutic Deism</strong> and is <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/article/20050418/moralistic-therapeutic-deism-the-new-american-religion/index.html" target="_blank">defined by researchers</a> thusly:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. &#8220;A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over human life on earth.&#8221; 2. &#8220;God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as taught in the Bible and by most world religions.&#8221; 3. &#8220;The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about oneself.&#8221; 4. &#8220;God does not need to be particularly involved in one&#8217;s life except when God is needed to resolve a problem.&#8221; 5. &#8220;Good people go to heaven when they die.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Infused with a new world ethics of diversity and inclusion, people conclude that no one is in a position to judge anyone else. Thus, we are all left to determine what is morally right for ourselves. Add to that the idea that religion&#8217;s goal should be to make a person happy. Any talk of suffering, responsibility, self denial, sexual morality or sin is rejected because such things inhibit  one&#8217;s &#8220;personal happiness&#8221;.  The new cosmopolitan belief that God can only become involved in our lives when we want him to seals this false construct becoming so prevalent in the church today.  God  becomes God only by default. He is viewed almost like Santa Claus, rewarding good people when they die with heaven. Hell (if it exists) is for those who don&#8217;t want others to be  good, loving and happy by telling them they cannot live in whatever way makes them happy.</p>
<p>Listen closely and you will hear these ideologies rehearsed over and over in popular Christian/gospel music, sermons by popular Christian speakers, in books by popular Christian writers and in conferences by popular conference conveners like Juanita Bynum.</p>
<p>Thats why blogs like GCM Watch is hated by the lovers of moralistic theraputic deism.</p>
<p>It also explains why people can call themselves Christians and at the same time promote concepts and ideologies contradictory to biblical orthodoxy (right belief) and orthopraxy (right conduct). And why so many of the conferences and &#8220;sermons&#8221; we hear today are me-centered. God wants you happy, God saw the best in you, live your best life now, be a better you, &#8220;love yourself&#8221;, &#8220;do you&#8221;, <em>ad naseum</em>.</p>
<p><span> </span>Watch Jaunita Bynum talk more religious goobley-gock where she says Prince, DMX and Michael Jackson had a &#8220;prophetic anointing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>In brief: More WH devotees come out in St Louis</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The St. Louis American posted an article interview with two area clergy which offered more evidence that the late Walter Hawkins was a closet inclusionist. One of the two men in the story, we have covered before. Bishop Wyatt Greenlee (left), an assistant of Yvette Flunder said Hawkins and Flunder helped him start his gay inclusion church Greater New Higher Heights (now a UCC). Read more about Greenlee here and here.
“I started ministry in 1988 and it was through his wisdom and counsel that helped me set it up properly,” ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/greenlee.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-5013" title="greenlee" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/greenlee-130x130-custom.jpg" alt="greenlee" width="130" height="130" /></a>The St. Louis <em>American</em> <a href="http://www.stlamerican.com/articles/2010/07/15/religion/local_religion/religion01.txt" target="_blank">posted an article interview</a> with two area clergy which offered more evidence that the late Walter Hawkins was a closet inclusionist. One of the two men in the story, we have covered before. Bishop Wyatt Greenlee (left), an assistant of Yvette Flunder said Hawkins and Flunder helped him start his gay inclusion church Greater New Higher Heights (now a UCC). Read more about Greenlee <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/139/fellowship-bishops-credentials-purchased-from-fraudulent-university" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/2234/bishop-larry-trotter-in-revival-at-gay-church" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>“I started ministry in 1988 and it was through his wisdom and counsel that helped me set it up properly,” said Greenlee, founder of New Higher Heights Church. He and Bishop Flunder took me under their wing and allowed me to network with the right people – he was my pastor and a man of incredible wisdom and council.”</p>
<p>New Higher Heights operated under Hawkins Love Center Church Umbrella and he was instrumental in the process of their first church recording in 1993 – serving as producer of the project.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=77132317&amp;blogId=373106105" target="_blank">Other pastors </a>under Walter Hawkins umbrella ministry.</p>
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		<title>Faithful Lutherans, Anglicans pushback against gay christian activism</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of heartening stories to report. Small in comparison to the tidal wave of gay christian activism in churches but nonetheless encouraging.
First, in Auburn, IN one Lutheran church has overwhelming decided they will no longer be subjected to the gay affirming aggression leaders in their denomination have embraced.
A Lutheran church in Auburn this week joined a growing number of congregations in voting to leave the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America over its recently broadened stance allowing homosexual ministers.
Members of St. Mark’s Lutheran Church, 211 E. Ninth St., voted 161-25 ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of heartening stories to report. Small in comparison to the tidal wave of gay christian activism in churches but nonetheless encouraging.</p>
<p>First, in Auburn, IN one Lutheran church has overwhelming decided they will no longer be subjected to the gay affirming aggression leaders in their denomination have embraced.</p>
<blockquote><p>A Lutheran church in Auburn this week joined a growing number of congregations in voting to leave the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America over its recently broadened stance allowing homosexual ministers.</p>
<p>Members of St. Mark’s Lutheran Church, 211 E. Ninth St., voted 161-25 Sunday to withdraw from the ELCA, the Rev. Stephen Kummernuss, church pastor, said Friday.</p>
<p>A second vote must be taken in 90 days to confirm the action, he said.</p>
<p>“In August 2009, the ELCA changed its policy to allow same-gender persons in a committed relationship to be ordained, and we don’t agree with that,” Kummernuss said, adding the congregation is not against gays.</p>
<p>“No, absolutely not,” he said. “We believe that God made male and female for relationship with one another and not otherwise. We accept (homosexual) people but are not going to accept the act as part of God’s creation, and … not (among people) in ministry.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The <a href="http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100710/LOCAL/307109976/1002/LOCAL" target="_blank">Journal-Gazette story</a> also said the denomination previously allowed gays and lesbians in the clergy if they remained celibate. The policy change does not force any particular congregation to accept a non-celibate homosexual pastor.</p>
<p>But the move sparked an outcry in many ELCA churches, and many members of St. Mark’s felt it went too far, Kummernuss said.  Some [members] began not attending church in protest, and giving dropped 50 percent, he said.</p>
<p>Nothing speaks louder to these apostate leaders than decreased money and members. If more churches would take action, they would no be so bold in installing homosexual leaders in authority. Part of the problem it seems is that many unsuspecting members are deceived with promises of more &#8220;dialogue&#8221; when in their inner circles they already have determined they will go against the Word of God.</p>
<p>Thankfully, for bible-adhering Lutherans there are options. Leaders have formed <a href="http://www.lutherancore.org/aboutus.shtml">CORE</a>, a &#8220;coalition of pastors, lay people, congregations and reforming groups. We seek to preserve within the Lutheran churches in North America the authority of the Word of God according to the Lutheran confessions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile in the UK, a gay cleric was denied a key leadership position for the second time. The<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/08/gay-clergyman-jeffrey-john-bishop" target="_blank"> UK Guardian reported</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A gay but celibate clergyman has been blocked from becoming a bishop for the second time, following a row over his inclusion on the shortlist for the choice to run the Anglican diocese of Southwark.</p>
<p>Jeffrey John, the Dean of St Albans, was under consideration for the post and would have replaced the Right Rev Tom Butler, who retired earlier this year. In 2003 Dr John had been forced to stand down from his appointment as suffragan bishop of Reading.</p>
<p>When news of his second candidacy was leaked, the prospect of the first openly gay bishop in the Church of England immediately angered conservative evangelicals, who threatened to seek alternative leadership overseas and warned of a schism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course per biblical standards, John shouldn&#8217;t be in <em>any</em> position of leadership in the first place, but the politics of religion have gotten him to where he is not biblical integrity.  Its interesting how  John is being marketed as a &#8220;gay but celibate clergyman&#8221;.  But further in the story says he is in a &#8220;civil partnership&#8221; but then again reasserts he is &#8220;celibate&#8221;. Sure, he is.  These agenda driven clerics will tell any lie they can to get into position.  So much for &#8220;honesty and integrity&#8221; they claim is the hallmark of being openly gay.</p>
<p>John <a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=37491" target="_blank">reinvents</a> the atonement  into a English tea party and in the end God and man decides to be friends. [source]. Where have we heard that type of <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4940/how-gay-christians-really-view-jesus" target="_blank">lunatic religious heresy</a> before?</p>
<p>The liberals in the church&#8217;s left wing are predictably outraged, because they want to seat these sexual apostates in power. We all know what they will do once in power. Look no further than the vindictive  <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/4697/gay-bishop-urges-exploration-of-other-sexualities" target="_blank">Vickie Gene Robinson</a> and its clear that keeping people like John out of power in the church is a fight worth engaging in.</p>
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		<title>Has the  church &#8220;downlow&#8221; craze died out?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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A couple of years ago, church leaders &#8212;especially African American ones&#8212; were all up in arms about &#8220;the downlow&#8221;. A great deal of it seemed to be a knee jerk reaction to JL King&#8217;s inglorious book about the subject. Several Pastors hurriedly wrote books denouncing it.  Sermons on the downlow (npi) started popping up on Sunday mornings, but a lot of it was church laff-a-palooza.  Now, it seems to have passed and all has returned to normal.  But has anything really changed and has the downlow went underground ...]]></description>
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<p>A couple of years ago, church leaders &#8212;especially African American ones&#8212; were all up in arms about &#8220;the downlow&#8221;. A great deal of it seemed to be a knee jerk reaction to JL King&#8217;s inglorious book about the subject. Several Pastors hurriedly wrote books denouncing it. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8r_6cFCRSw" target="_blank"> Sermons on the downlow</a> (npi) started popping up on Sunday mornings, but a lot of it was church laff-a-palooza.  Now, it seems to have passed and all has returned to normal.  But has anything really changed and has the downlow went underground in the church? Hardly. But now I question why there was so much hype in the beginning? Was it just a opportunity to sell books and make some money? Certainly, with all the secret (or not so secret) homosexual immorality going on in the church, one would think a plethora of ministries would have been birthed in the wake of these revelations. But don&#8217;t trouble yourself looking too hard.  Ministry to men and women struggling with homosexuality &#8212;secretly and openly&#8212; is just as barren in predominately African American churches as it was before the downlow craze.</p>
<p><strong>Pastor Michael Stevens</strong> of University City COGIC in Charlotte wrote a book called Straight Up: The Church&#8217;s Official Response to the Epidemic of Downlow Living [<a href="http://www.christianbook.com/straight-churchs-official-response-epidemic-downlow/michael-stevens/9781599790138/pd/790130">source</a>]. Of his book, Stevens says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Tired of the homosexual agenda trying to &#8220;soothe our conscience and level of tolerance,&#8221; Stevens fires back with a hard-hitting, in-depth look at the emotional, spiritual, and psychological damage this &#8220;nurtured&#8221; disease is having on the very core of the black family&#8212;the male seed. He adamantly pushes forward on this controversial subject because &#8220;we must deal with a disease that is invisible with no symptoms of potential threat or current characteristics of existence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stevens also points out that &#8220;for every deception and myth, there is hope and healing.&#8221; He offers a four-step process that begins with acceptance, followed by repentance, avoidance, and confidence. The detailed plan, he is sure, will help men walk out of the double lifestyle into a new life full of straight living.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not singling out Stevens only using him as an example.  He does say a lot in the video which is debatable. For instance, he veers off  onto feminine men in the church but honestly downlow men arent considered overtly feminine. That would thwart the whole idea of being hidden and secretive and certainly &#8220;heterosexual&#8221;. But I digress.</p>
<p>Another book called &#8220;Deliverance From The Down Low: Deliverance For Men Who Sleep With Men But Profess to be Straight&#8221; by Pastor Gary Williams came out about the same time. Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rpXJsl9BP0">another sermon</a> on the subject. Despite the pastor&#8217;s self admonishing &#8220;preach boy&#8221;, its fairly shallow.</p>
<p>So does the church have an answer? <strong>The</strong> answer? Yes and no. The church needs to acknowledge first that it is part of the problem as well as part of the answer. Stevens says it takes mentoring, modeling and molding to reduce spiritual recidivism among homosexuals who leave that lifestyle. I agree with Pastor Stevens, discipleship (Matt 28:19) is our command. It includes teaching, training and modeling right living in brotherly relationships. But if the problem is as severe as he says it is, why isnt the answer as prominent as the problem? Maybe I&#8217;m missing something, but I didn&#8217;t see anything addressing the problem at Pastor Steven&#8217;s church. The men&#8217;s ministry is well&#8230;typical. <a href="http://www.theuniversitycitychurch.com/men.php" target="_blank">See it here</a>.</p>
<p>The real solution to the downlow isnt a book (which downlow men most likely didnt read), or a fiery sermon about how downlowism is ruining the black community and church (alone, its not). The real solution is out in the open, long term ministry. The other solution for those who think secret sin (that&#8217;s all the downlow is) should be tolerated and accepted, is a good old fashioned house cleaning.</p>
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		<title>Kirk Cameron: how to build church with false converts</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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Satire at its best. Gotta love Kirk Cameron for bringing that truth with humor.
Too many of today&#8217;s pastors are being pressured (by the god of false success) to build churches with false converts. Such churches look great on the outside and appeal to &#8220;lights, action and camera&#8221; folks but there must be concern that souls are truly converted to Christ, not just become church members.
The Lawman Chronicles blog lists 10 marks of a false convert (feel free to add on):
1. You believe that you are inherently a good person, thus ...]]></description>
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<p>Satire at its best. Gotta love Kirk Cameron for bringing that truth with humor.</p>
<p>Too many of today&#8217;s pastors are being pressured (by the god of false success) to build churches with false converts. Such churches look great on the outside and appeal to &#8220;lights, action and camera&#8221; folks but there must be concern that souls are truly converted to Christ, not just become church members.</p>
<p><a href="http://thelawmanchronicles.blogspot.com/2009/02/ten-marks-of-false-convert.html">The Lawman Chronicles</a> blog lists 10 marks of a false convert (feel free to add on):</p>
<p>1. You believe that you are inherently a good person, thus denying the doctrine of Original Sin.</p>
<p>2. You commit idolatry of the mind and blaspheme the very character of God by denying essential doctrines such as judgment, hell, regeneration, and justification by faith alone; and you replace the truth with lies such as sinless perfection and open theism.</p>
<p>3. You think that only the red-lettered words in your Bible are the words of Jesus and, therefore, the rest of the Bible can be interpreted and applied to your liking.</p>
<p>4. You believe that a person can be a Christian while wantonly engaging in habitual sin; such as homosexuality, fornication, adultery in mind or body, the support in any way whatsoever of the murder of the unborn, or any other sin.</p>
<p>5. You believe that because a person has prayed a prayer and asked Jesus into their heart, then they are saved.</p>
<p>6. You believe a person can be a Christian, even if they bear no fruit after making a profession of faith in Christ. You treat the grace of God as a license to sin. You like the word “backslider.”</p>
<p>7. You struggle with the thought of missing a meal; but going days, weeks, even months without reading your Bible doesn’t faze you.</p>
<p>8. You pray when you want something from God; but beyond that you have very little time for conversation with Him.</p>
<p>9. You believe that Darwinian, macro-evolution is a scientific fact and compatible with belief in the God of the Bible.</p>
<p>10. You see evangelism as a gift other people have; and you have no real concern about the fact that 150,000 people die every day, with the vast majority of them bound for hell. You soothe your conscience by convincing yourself that “friendship evangelism,” as it is most commonly practiced among American Christians, is actually in the Bible. You think that if you “let your little light shine,” you don’t have to verbally proclaim the gospel</p>
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		<title>How gay christians really view Jesus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Another must see and hear to believe it video courtesy of  homosexual christian clerics.
Have you been under the impression that gay christians love, revere,  worship, honor, serve, obey and follow the Jesus of the Bible? If you  have, you couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong.  In fact I would say that the &#8220;Jesus&#8221;  they speak of is but an idol of their own imagination, crafted by the  dark recesses of their minds. The Christ, who came expressly to die and  deliver us from the penalty and ...]]></description>
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<p>Another must see and hear to believe it video courtesy of  homosexual christian clerics.</p>
<p>Have you been under the impression that gay christians love, revere,  worship, honor, serve, obey and follow the Jesus of the Bible? If you  have, you couldn&#8217;t have been more wrong.  In fact I would say that the &#8220;Jesus&#8221;  they speak of is but an idol of their own imagination, crafted by the  dark recesses of their minds. The Christ, who came expressly to die and  deliver us from the penalty and curse of sin is mocked and demeaned by those who call themselves by his name.</p>
<p>After watching this video (a little over 10 minutes) of a gaggle of  clergy from the <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/92/mcc-allows-member-churches-to-opt-out-of-belief-in-jesus" target="_blank">Metropolitan Community Church</a> (a homosexual  christian denomination), it reminded me of Bill Clinton&#8217;s 1998 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0" target="_blank">defense  statement</a> when he said &#8220;It depends on what the meaning of is, is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Listen to these gay christian &#8220;theologians&#8221; discuss what believing in  Jesus means to them. Or rather what believing in Jesus doesn&#8217;t mean to  them.</p>
<p>The panel sets the stage by defining their brand of religion as more  akin to Jesus because everything is always in flux. There are no  absolutes and there are no imaginative boundaries for followers of  Christ. In their logic, man is smart enough &#8212;and has a high self  worth&#8212; without the bible to determine what is right and good for us.</p>
<p>I pulled out a few of the more stunning statements for your review.  Keep in mind these are people who are demanding to be accepted as equals  (brothers and sisters in Christ).</p>
<p>The <strong>Rev. Durrell Watkins</strong> (the church&#8217;s senior pastor) refers to Jesus as some type of  voodoo doll he has purchased.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I as a progressive Christian have set my heart on Jesus  so yes I believe in Jesus&#8230;and that means that Jesus for me is a symbol  and a figure that I am constantly working with, exploring, playing with  and so how that impacts me, how that influences my life is going to  change over time. But because I have set my heart on Jesus Ive made  Jesus a primary symbol to work with&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A symbol to play with? Professing themselves wise, they have become  fools.</p>
<p><strong>Rev. Nikki Bailey</strong> sees Jesus dying for the sins of humanity is  something akin to a humorous fairy tale.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I would say that belief in Jesus would be belief in all the  questions and all of the seeking and all of the possibility that Jesus  represents. I would agree with Durrell not necessarily believing about  Jesus all of the things or I was taught in the tradition I was raised  in, not necessarily that Jesus died for my sins., which is fine if  that&#8217;s where you are&#8230; (all laugh) But for me it would be believing  that all the things that Jesus represented through his life and all of  the questions that arrive from that and all of the commitments that I  need to make to justice and peace and loving my neighbor is a part of  what that belief is.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I was wrong. From there it gets  progressively worse. The gay christian ministers go on to reject the  significance of the death of Christ because they possess a &#8220;high  anthropology&#8221;. Thus, they have no need for Jesus to save them although,  as the man says, they do have high regard for Jesus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before and it bears repeating. The theology of the homosexual christian movement is diametrically opposed to literally every fundamental teaching of our faith.  This is the very nature of satan who wraps himself in an angelic facade and presents himself as one who is focused on love and peace.</p>
<p>More on MCC ministers and their perverted view of Jesus:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/2580/mcc" target="_blank">Thieves, robbers and perverts in the MCC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/183/mcc-clerics-demonize-jesus">MCC clerics demonize Jesus</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/58/mcc-minister-imagines-jesus-in-love" target="_blank">MCC minister imagines Jesus in love</a></li>
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		<title>BCNN challenges megas to repudiate SOTUS &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Black Christian News is on it.
Via ExTimes,  we learn that the site has issued a challenge to the nation&#8217;s prominent mega pastors to openly repudiate the Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie issued on Fathers Day.
Here&#8217;s what the savior of the US (SOTUS) said:
&#8220;Nurturing families come in many forms, and  children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two  fathers, a step  father, a grandfather, or caring guardian.&#8221;

In response, BCNN has placed a call to action on their website urging Christians to tell Obama he&#8217;s ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.blackchristiannews.com/news/" target="_blank">Black Christian News</a> is on it.</p>
<p>Via <a href="http://exministries.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/big-money-bishops-remain-silent-while-obama-pushes-the-envelope/" target="_blank">ExTimes</a>,  we learn that the site has issued a challenge to the nation&#8217;s prominent mega pastors to openly repudiate the Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;two fathers&#8221; lie issued on Fathers Day.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what the savior of the US (SOTUS) said:<br />
&#8220;Nurturing families come in many forms, and  children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two  fathers, a step  father, a grandfather, or caring guardian.&#8221;<br />
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In response, BCNN has placed a call to action on their website urging Christians to tell Obama he&#8217;s dead wrong on this.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Black Christian News has called for the nation’s “Megachurch Pastors  and Prophets of God to Publicly Rebuke this unwise President,” according  to its website. Explicitly the statement calls for T. D. Jakes, Eddie Long, Charles Black, Charles Stanley, Pat Robertson, Tony Evans, Al Sharpton, Kirbyjon Caldwell, Jesse Jackson, David Jeremiah, Frederick Haynes III, and others to stand up against what it sees as the progress of a homosexual agenda.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But will they do it? So far, not a peep.</p>
<p>Many Christians fail to realize (or want to realize) that Obama is the political equivalent of <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/67/does-the-inclusion-doctrine-include-all" target="_blank">Carlton Pearson</a>. His ideology is a political inclusion philosophy which (even as a self proclaimed Christian) drives him to devalue Christ as equal to other religious figures. The Word of God is used only as a social justice prop when convenient.</p>
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		<title>Memphis pastor criticized for denying lesbian leadership role</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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The Memphis Commercial Appeal is reporting on a local controversy against Bellevue Baptist Church Pastor Steve Gaines who refused to allow a lesbian to lead the church&#8217;s softball team. In the two minute video, Gaines explains to the congregation his decision but has refused to get into public debate about the situation.
First story in the CA
Second story in the CA
What do you think, was the pastor right or wrong to deny the lesbian a leadership role? He seemed to frame it in that context while saying that anyone is welcome ...]]></description>
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<p>The Memphis <em>Commercial Appeal</em> is reporting on a local controversy against <a href="http://www.bellevue.org/" target="_blank">Bellevue Baptist Church</a> Pastor Steve Gaines who refused to allow a lesbian to lead the church&#8217;s softball team. In the two minute video, Gaines explains to the congregation his decision but has refused to get into public debate about the situation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/jun/16/bellevue-says-youre-out-gay-coach-claims/" target="_blank">First story in the CA</a><br />
<a href="http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/jun/23/ousting-gay-coach-necessary-bellevue-pastor-says/">Second story in the CA</a></p>
<p>What do you think, was the pastor right or wrong to deny the lesbian a leadership role? He seemed to frame it in that context while saying that anyone is welcome to attend the church, but not in positions where their influence is seen as being approved of by the church.</p>
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		<title>Anglicans impose sanctions against gay affirming Episcopal church</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is good news. In response to the Episcopal church&#8217;s ordination of its second homosexual bishop, Anglican leadership has basically pulled the plug on the denomination&#8217;s influence to debate doctrine and interact with other Christians on certain high level church committees.
According to Religion News Service, the church&#8217;s high priestess Katharine Jefferts Schori is highly upset.
The high-level dispute between the head of the Anglican Communion and  Episcopal Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori  continues, as Jefferts Schori  accused Archbishop of Canterbury of getting Anglican polity wrong and  jumping ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news. In response to the Episcopal church&#8217;s ordination of its second homosexual bishop, Anglican leadership has basically pulled the plug on the denomination&#8217;s influence to debate doctrine and interact with other Christians on certain high level church committees.</p>
<p>According to Religion News Service, the church&#8217;s high priestess Katharine Jefferts Schori is highly upset.</p>
<blockquote><p>The high-level dispute between the head of the<strong> </strong>Anglican Communion and  Episcopal Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori  continues, as <a href="http://www.episcopalchurch.org/79425_122744_ENG_HTM.htm">Jefferts Schori  accused Archbishop of Canterbury of getting </a>Anglican polity wrong and  jumping the gun by imposing sanctions on her church. Conservative  activists in England say its &#8220;discourteous&#8221; of an Anglican cathedral <a href="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12697">to  invite Jefferts Schori to preach</a>, given the tension in the AC.</p></blockquote>
<p>A<a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2010/06/episcopalians-booted-from-angl.php" target="_blank"> Beliefnet story </a>indicated that the head of the Anglican Communion considered the second consecration an act of seditious disobedience.</p>
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<div style="border: medium none; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; overflow: hidden; text-decoration: none;">Archbishop  of Canterbury Rowan Williams, the spiritual leader of the communion, proposed  the removals last month after Episcopalians in Los Angeles consecrated an open  lesbian as an assistant bishop. Bishop Mary Douglas Glasspool is the second  openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church, after Bishop V. Gene Robinson of New  Hampshire, who was consecrated in 2003.After Robinson&#8217;s consecration,  all 44 member churches in the Anglican Communion were asked to abide by three  moratoria: no more gay bishops, no official blessings for same-sex unions, no  interfering in each other&#8217;s provinces.</p>
<p>While most Episcopalians support  ordaining gays and lesbians as bishops, many Anglicans in the 77-million-member  communion view homosexuality as a sin, and have angrily confronted the Episcopal  Church. Williams had warned Episcopalians that consecrating Glasspool would have  &#8220;consequences&#8221; for their role in the communion.</p>
<p>Kearon said he wrote to  Episcopalians on the affected committees last Thursday to inform them of the  changes. The one Episcopalian on the &#8220;faith and order&#8221; committee, the Rev.  Katherine Grieb of Virginia, can serve as a consultant, but not a member, Kearon  said.</p></div>
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<p>The homosexual religious movement has done nothing good for the unity of the church. Quite the contrary, it has seeded and fostered division and disobedience to God and his word time and time again. Its good to know some church leaders are growing a backbone and responding with influence killing sanctions. And that&#8217;s best course of action with people who are hell bent on spreading sexual immorality and false teachings. Restrict, restrain and if possible kill their influence.</p>
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		<title>Wanted: A radical return to holiness</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The June 7th episode of TBN featured a rare moment of sound biblical teaching from Milwaukee based Bishop Darrell Hines in an interview with Mark Chironna. Not rare for Hines, rare for TBN.
Thankfully, this was devoid of the gratuitous set ups that are usually the custom of stale TBN interviews. Chironna gave Hines liberty to express what was &#8220;burning in his heart&#8221; at that time. And what followed was 99.9% lean meat. It was clear that Hines was speaking truth because there were no perfunctory &#8220;clap right here&#8221; moments for ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/BDH_3PIECE_72.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4847" title="BDH_3PIECE_72" src="http://www.gcmwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/BDH_3PIECE_72-160x247-custom.jpg" alt="BDH_3PIECE_72" width="160" height="247" /></a>The June 7th episode of TBN featured a rare moment of sound biblical teaching from Milwaukee based <a href="http://www.dhminfo.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Bishop Darrell Hines</strong></a> in an<a href="http://www.tbn.org/video_portal/" target="_blank"> interview </a>with Mark Chironna. Not rare for Hines, rare for TBN.</p>
<p>Thankfully, this was devoid of the gratuitous set ups that are usually the custom of stale TBN interviews. Chironna gave Hines liberty to express what was &#8220;burning in his heart&#8221; at that time. And what followed was 99.9% lean meat. It was clear that Hines was speaking truth because there were no perfunctory &#8220;clap right here&#8221; moments for the audience. Either the audience wasn&#8217;t accustomed to such strong meat or they were so enraptured they didn&#8217;t do the usual studio audience happy shout and dance at the &#8220;blessing and miracle&#8221; speeches.</p>
<p>Hines spoke clearly about the message and meaning of holiness. In his exposition he explained that holiness is an identity and our personal responsibility to reflect holiness. His very direct message: <strong>the church has an identity crisis</strong>.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, Hines said the catalyst prompting his search for the true biblical definition of holiness was seeing the much talked about &#8212;albeit shameful&#8212; Tonex <a href="http://www.gcmwatch.com/3380/sad-day-for-tonex" target="_blank">interview</a> by Lexi.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I was watching television, this interview that was being done by this one Christian singer, gospel singer&#8230; and I won&#8217;t call his name,  he had been to our church and had really blessed us but these were some years after, he was on television confessing to being a born again, homosexual believer in God, continue to pastor his church,  God loves him and he loves God and we just have to accept him like that . And something happened to me Mark.  I felt a real&#8230;sadness. There&#8217;s a whole generation of young people being influenced now by this music, but the lifestyle doesnt represent the music nor does the music and the lifestyle go together.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That began an awesome exposition of holiness and the inherency of identity.</p>
<p>Bishop Hines understood and articulated what it at the root of the gross indecency (and the passive acceptance of it) of behavior: the church does not value holiness. I would even say the church has lost the true meaning and application of holiness. Thus, the problem with people like Tonex and the gay christian movement&#8217;s ideology he now champions, is an clear result of the church&#8217;s moving away from holiness.</p>
<p>Hines addressed a common fallacy used by some as a cloak to justify sin as well as the off track gospel music industry which is by and large is operating under the influence of religious homosexuals.</p>
<p>One of the more striking points he made is that love is God&#8217;s ability while holiness is his identity.</p>
<p>Hines said that he is encouraging pastors everywhere to return to preaching holiness. He&#8217;s probably seen enough of the tricks, gimmicks and hollow messages used to fill seats with false converts.</p>
<p>This is good, sound teaching that&#8217;s well worth your 15 minutes to watch, hear and heed. Yes, we really need a radical return to holiness.</p>
<p>Watch the <a href="http://www.tbn.org/video_portal/" target="_blank">full  June 7 broadcast</a> with Bishop Darrell Hines. The interview begins at 1:05.</p>
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