Category — polemics

Using black social inequality in America as a comparison to legitimize homosexual sin is a signal tenet in the agenda of religious gays. In all actuality, they can’t help but parrot the political agenda of their secular counterparts. The entire gay christian movement with its attendant off-shoot sects is little more than the gay political movement in heavy religious blackface. Don’t expect any revelation (although they claim “God is still speaking“) because they are fresh out and the truck wont be in for another millennia.  GCMW found the perfect example of what a recycled lie looks like from a gay christian site called “The Great Heresy”. Since it has Anthony Venn-Brown’s name stamped everywhere, we’ll assume he’s the author.

The Great Heresy’s recycled premise, in simplified form, is this:

Since the “church” was wrong about  the shape of the earth and wrong about black folk, then (brilliant minds began churning at this point) viola!, they are wrong about gays too!

Before we get started, let’s look at what heresy is. The reason you have to look at classical definitions when dealing with homosexual theology/ideology is because they redefine EVERYTHING their uncircumcised hearts latch onto. Everything.

So in simple terms, a heresy is willful deviation from the truth. To qualify truth as being the standard of what is being deviated from, you must include that God is not only the source of truth, but he is truth personified in Jesus Christ (reference John 18:38).

In his commentary called Once Heresy now Truth, Venn-Brown treads a familiar gay christian path of tangled logic, convoluted theory and self-serving conjecture. He states five points where in his estimation what was once considered heresy (using his surreptitious  redefinition) is now truth (using his surreptitious  redefinition).

1. Once Heresy now Truth —The world revolves around the sun. The churches [sic] previous position — The earth is the centre of the universe.

VB argues that four centuries ago, Catholic and Protestant  leaders rejected scientists like Galileo who said the world revolved around the sun.

An overarching problem with VB’s statements is his attempt to position “the church” as the source of truth, when its not. The church is comprised of people who admittedly do engage in error. And if “the church” were the source of truth, VB would have a valid argument. But the church is not the source of truth it is a conduit of truth. And while the conduit may indeed be in error at times, the source is never in error.

His first unspoken parallel is that the sun revolution around the earth is a moral/sexual issue. Its not. Its good that science has clarified that the world revolves around the sun, but even if it didnt it would not alter biblical truth that homosexuality is sin.

2. Once Heresy now Truth —White and black are equal The churches [sic] previous position —White is superior, black is inferior.

In this argues that the beliefs of white religious slave owners aka “the church”, were wrong  about the color of one’s skin making one inherently superior or inferior. And guess what? They were wrong.  Those slave owners used scripture not only for moral justification of their wickedness, but as a way to continue the cash flow off the backs of slaves.

The unspoken parallel is that skin color and sexual behavior are one in the same. They are not. Skin color is an immutable trait, while sexual behavior is fluid and changeable. In short, a person can choose to have sex with anyone they desire.  Actress Cynthia Nixon was whipped mercilessly by the contemporary keepers of the white  slave owner flame for stepping out of line on that issue.

Moreover there is no legitimate science to the oft repeated theory of being born gay. The fact that scientific evidence is even needed to prove the “born gay” point is ridiculous. Why do you even need scientific proof of such a thing.? One only need look at an African American to see the obvious sans “scientific evidence”.

3. Once Heresy now Truth — Two people who love each other should marry no matter what colour their skin. The churches [sic] previous position — God separated the races therefore they should never marry.

For his third ideological prooftext position, Venn-Brown hauls out the “two people loving each other” meme. Notice the sleight of hand here.  A man and a woman has magically become “two people”. He had to redefine to make his argument sound plausible.  And remember he is soliloquy-ing his was to his climax, so these layers of lies are intended to reprocess your thinking for the big “a-ha” moment.

VB writes” “The last states in the US to remove the law that banned interracial marriage were in the ‘bible belt’ (the area in which conservative Christian Evangelical Protestantism is a pervasive or dominant part of the culture)…Finally when two people of different races fell in love they were allowed to marry. The oppressed were set free.”

4. Once Heresy now Truth —Men and women are of equal value and worth. The churches [sic] previous position — men are superior, women are inferior.

Per Venn-Brwon: “Up until the middle of the 19th century, most Christians had a pretty clear understanding of the role of women. It was all there in the bible. To be a good Christian woman you had to dress and behave in a certain way, your chief roles being that of keeping house, raising children, and submitting to the will of your husband.”

If VB were being truth and not superimposing a half-truth over his theories, he would tell you that this was not a Christian imposed norm. It was a cultural norm. Pretty much every one —Christian, atheist and Jew– thought the same way. So this whole argument and its intended moral is trashed for lack of honesty.

Now, finally, we have arrived at the big bang moment. Get ready, here it comes….

5. Once Heresy now Truth — same sex orientation, for a percentage of the population, is a normal expression of sexuality and occurs in all of creation. The churches previous but changing position— the Bible says homosexuality is a sin.

For his finale, Venn-Brown vomits out the most outrageous lie he can cough up. “The statement ‘the Bible says homosexuality is a sin’ is actually a false statement. It’s impossible for homosexuality to be a sin. We know from science today that homosexuality is a sexual orientation like heterosexuality and therefore it’s amoral.”

To further drive home his anticlimactic lie, he says that only “six passages out of 31,240 verses” are associated with homosexuality. So then, are we to believe that numbers confer validity?  Out of the millions of false gods, deities and idols there is only 1 true God.  Is then God irrelevant because he is one? I think not.

The truth is there there exists no legitimate scientific evidence proving that homosexuality is genetic. Galileo had an honest desire that was beneficial far beyond himself. The homosexuals who conducted the highly inconclusive gay gene tests admitted the tests were largely self-serving.

By using the political gay movement’s unfounded talking points to disprove God’s truth about sexual expression, Venn-Brown has proven nothing but his own foolish desire to justify to own sin. And that’s a human trick that has been recycled since the garden of eden.

You dont know Eric Dillard. Just consider him representative of the thousands of deceived religious gays who continue laboring to prop up a lie that has no legs. Dillard once supported deliverance from homosexuality, even singing on a song written about overcoming homosexuality. But false converts never remain true to Christ’s teachings.

“Let’s put everyone back in slavery. 2. Women, no rights for you at all. Sit in the back of the church and be seen and not heard. 3. If anyone gets divorced, women take cover because you’re about to be stoned. And on top …of that, none of you will be getting remarried and have it smiled on in the congregation of saints as we watch you walk down the aisle in your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th tuxedo and white wedding dress.

When people refer to homosexuality as being a sin. We first need to know in “what” context it’s referring to and then what is the distinction of it. Because the way that the Bible (written by faulty men) states, even if you’re feminine you are not going to Heaven. That has nothing to do with being gay at all. The Amplified Bible goes further to call it out right homosexuality.So again, this is not about making homosexuality right. But if we’re going to be consistent. Let’s be consistent. How consistent are we really…..?

When confronted with the truth about their sins, religious homosexuals (just like their political counterparts) typically trot out a series of illogical arguments intended to somehow tie biblical teaching about homosexuality to other forms of human oppression.

The major flaw with this ideology is derived benefit. Derived benefit, in this case is something that is financially advantageous for those in power. The flawed logic used by the gay christian movement is severely juvenile in its scope. Its almost like a schoolyard “yo mama” perspective. Not only are Eric Dillard and his progay cohorts grossly misinformed about history and social movements, it appears they aid and abet the deception by claiming to be fighting against the very lie they now help to uphold.

Dillard’s premise that we must know what “context” sin is, is within itself a major sign that such a person is only seeking a derived benefit for themselves. In the eyes of God, sin has no “context”. Sin is any and everything, whether consensual or nonconsensual that defies God’s standards. It doesn’t matter who commits sin, whether its committed in thought or deed. If it falls short of God’s clearly stated standards of holiness and righteousness, it is sin. Only a foolish and disobedient mind would seek some sort of contextual exemption clause.

Now, let’s follow the money trail.

1 Timothy 6:10. For the love of money is the root of all evil.  Thus, money helps to supply what the evil hearts of men desire until it consumes all in its cyclic and systemic obsession.

1. Slaveowners derived a tangible financial benefit from misinterpreting scripture to keep blacks under the bondage of slavery. The perversion of religious teaching from the mouths of the slaveowners was simply a means to achieve an end. It was a calculated deception including forbidding the slaves to learn to read. Telling the slaves that God and/or the bible wanted the blacks to serve their white masters helped slaveowners to continue reaping the benefits of free labor estimated at billions of dollars.

“Slavery is fundamentally an economic phenomenon. Throughout history, slavery has existed where it has been economically worthwhile to those in power. The principal example in modern times is the U.S. South. Nearly 4 million slaves with a market value of close to $4 billion lived in the U.S. just before the Civil War. Masters enjoyed rates of return on slaves comparable to those on other assets; cotton consumers, insurance companies, and industrial enterprises benefited from slavery as well. Such valuable property required rules to protect it, and the institutional practices surrounding slavery display a sophistication that rivals modern-day law and business.”–The Economic History Association

2. Anti-suffrage males  fought against women’s rights primarily for financial gain. Sharing jobs with women meant that men would lose their dominant edge in the workplace, thus lose their financial power (and perks). Denying women the right to vote was simply a tool to keep them out of power while ensuring that money and jobs remained in the hands of men. Like the white slaveowners, the social oppression of women by men was all but assured to duplicate itself  in the church because the same men populated the church.

“The idea that the only “true” woman was a pious, submissive wife and mother concerned exclusively with home and family.” –History.com

Men derived a tangible financial benefit by misinterpreting scripture to keep women subservient and silent in the presence of men. Jesus himself restored the equality of women and at the same time maintained the order of God’s creation. And he did it with no conflicting variance. A man who finds a woman for a wife finds something good. And as a single woman, she is good before he marries her. But sharing power with women threatened the financial benefits men derived and thus twisting the scripture use but a natural progression to maintain the status quo. Like denying them the right to vote, keeping them silent and subservient in the church served the greater purpose.

3. The white jim crow racists of the 60s also financially benefited by misinterpreting scripture about the equality of African Americans. Using barriers of unjust laws and deceptive ideology, white racists kept in place the system that prevented African Americans from reaching positions of power and thus achieving equality with whites. Keeping blacks out of jobs that paid commensurate wages, kept black people out of power. Like the other deceptive and dehumanizing socio-religious pograms before the jim crow era, the power of money was the bottom line motivation. While segregationists could not en masse prevent blacks from gaining ground, in the south and pockets of other parts of the country, the tactics against them helped slow progress considerably.

Lying pay$ off

The clear common thread in all oppressive movements was financial gain which facilitated systemic power over another group.

But there exists no such financial benefit for people who correctly interpret scripture in reference to homosexual practices. No one who believes, teaches and upholds the sexual standards of the bible stands to benefit financially from doing so. In an ever increasing age of intolerant tolerance, such people and organizations actually are penalized for not falling in line with homosexual inclusion ideology.  Logically, for the church to be compared to the aforementioned oppressive movements, it would have to allow homosexual inclusion.

Therefore its the  religious progays who are financially benefiting from the misinterpretation of scripture just like slaveowners, anti-suffrage sexists and jim crow racists.

For example, the United Church of Christ was the first “major” US denomination to endorse homosexual marriage in 2005. That decision cost them over 200 local congregations. Faced with growing deficits, the UCC courted fringe gay religious groups. It benefited financially (and image-wise) from the influx of scores of fringe black pentecostalesque homosexual churches led by lesbian bishop Yvette Flunder. Now those churches (and other homosexual churches) bear the name UCC which gives them legitimacy. According to the Institute on Religion and Democracy, the UCC bled out over 1 million members in the last 40 years, with some 40,000 members running away from the sinking ship on its 50th anniversary year.

To counter this, homosexual (political and religious) activists have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into dead religious organizations, rewarding them for the benefit of lying about God’s standard for sexual expression. It was a major financial payoff in exchange for twisting scripture in favor of homosexual practices.

“Our gay dollars can turn the tide, sending a message that attacking us has grave consequences and the reprisals could very well cost a person a job or celebrity endorsements as we have seen with retracted statements and public apologies from Isaiah Washington and Tim Hardaway. Our gay dollars can also assert a proactive stance in which we frame the public religious discourse on our own terms. For example, “OutGiving is more than just a gathering of philanthropists – it’s a specific, focused, and streamlined roadmap to making your dollars do more … to increase capacity on the frontlines of the fight … where they can have the greatest impact,” Tim Gill, founder and chairman of the Gill Foundation, wrote in a open letter to this year’s conference participants. The time is now for us to assess our impact on American Christianity in this country, and to assert our muscle in today’s political landscape, especially against a party more set on winning votes at the ballot box than souls in the church.” –lesbian activist Rev. Irene Monroe

If  the progay clerics and organizations and had any intellectual honesty, they would inform their followers that they are part of a longstanding tradition of lying for financial gain. American slaveowners did it, the anti-suffragists did it, the jim crow racists did it and the pro homosexual apostate church is doing it.

In an era of nonstop religious entertainment and instant gratification, a new breed of Christian has been born. The name? Celebrity Christians. These court jesters come complete with “Christian” light acting skills, and just enough charisma and class to win over the weak and spiritually immature and in some cases even the strongest of bible readers. Their acceptance into the church and dominance of mainstream “Churchianity” only gives solid evidence to a greater problem. The complete absence of discernment among those who claim to follow Christ.

First, so that we’re all on the same page, let’s define discernment.

Discernment is defined as ” skill in understanding , grasping and comprehending ; the ability to recognize or identify as separate and distinct; perception , acumen , penetration , insight, discrimination. The capacity to distinguish and select the excellent , the appropriate or the true”.

Discernment uses the knowledge and practice of the truth in the Scriptures to develop an ability to objectively discern right from wrong (Psalm 119:66). Its imparted by the Holy Ghost first for the protection and benefit of the believer and secondly for the protection and benefit for the Body at large. Every believer should have basic discernment, while others are gifted (1 Cor 12) to distinguish between conflicting spiritual, moral and ethical situations which arise in the church. A good exhibition of discernment is King Solomon’s ruling with the two women and dead baby (1 Kings 3:16).

But discernment today has taken on a sort of taboo-like aura similar to it’s predecessor —and one of the most hated words found in the bible— “DOCTRINE”. Talk about discernment in a church today and watch the insults and hatred flow. You’ll quickly hear words like “legalist” and “Non-Loving”.

Followers of pop perversion

Let’s take for example Cleveland based pastor and trending hireling RA Vernon.

For his Easter Sunday message, Vernon titilated the itching ears of his sheeple with a message borrowed heavily from secular performer Cee-Lo’s song F U [video]. Vernon’s profanity overdraft is hardly original.

Either his pockets have been getting a little thin lately, or his mind really has been “given over” because any respectable pastor/shepherd with a solid handle of scripture would never disrespect the word of our risen Savior. Especially when we know the significance of the forgiveness that God has given us. The bible says:

“And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with Him (Christ), having forgiven us all out trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This He set aside, nailing it to the cross.” Colossians 2:13-14

Yet even after his gross mockery of God’s word, thousands of undiscerning sheeple still file into Vernon’s club.

Sin, the diabolical agent that fills the hearts of sinners and lures them into an eternity of punishment is seen as a joke now in most churches. When saints sin they call it making a “mistake” or having “issues”, rather than calling it what the word of God says:

“You shall defile also the covering of your carved images of silver, the ornament of your melted images of gold; thou shalt cast them away like an un­clean cloth.” Isaiah 30:22

Sin to God should be thrown away like an unclean cloth. The Hebrew equivalent word for unclean cloth is the same as what describes a bloody cloth from a woman’s menstrual period. God sees sin as a bloody stink filled menstrual period pad. Yet we still engage in it, and then have the audacity to think we still have access to God But like Paul said: GOD FORBID!

“For even if I made you grieve with my letter, I do not regret it-though I did regret it, for I see that that letter grieved you, though only for a while. As it is, I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were grieved into repenting. For you felt a godly grief, so that you suffered no loss through us.” 2 Corinthians 7:8-9

A preacher’s job is to preach the word of God so that people are:

1. Encouraged to learn the scriptures

2. Encouraged to continue steadfast in the faith

3. Grieved over their own sin which in turn produces repentance. Repentance refers to the desire to turn from sin and restore a fellowship with God.

And finally, take an active role bringing an end to the cult of celebrity in Christ’s church. He and he alone is worthy of worship and adoration.

Look around you and if you haven’t noticed, everybody is talking about love.  People adore it, idolize it, romanticize it, sing about it and write best selling books about it. But what about hate? Why is hate treated like the bubonic plague, like some alien concept no human being should ever be associated with? Why is love treated as the great uniter, while hate is seen as the great divider?  Perhaps the only time you publicly hear about hate is when the homosexual movement and its hypocritical allies are in serial screed mode screaming “thou shalt not hate” at the rest of the world.

In contrast, the contemporary church and in particular the image whores who psychobabble on Christian television every week would NEVER talk about hate because it would ruin their carefully manicured images of love and acceptance.

But what does the Bible teach about hate? Are we allowed or even expected  to hate certain things and certain people? Does God hate people? Is all hate a sin? You’d be surprised to find out that hate has gotten a bad rap by bible haters.

Have you noticed that while those who continuously call for “NO H8″ and put silver tape around their mouths then take model shots don’t have a problem showing their hate and disdain for truth and those who advocate for the truth about homosexuality? Remember the popular bumper sticker  —”Hate is not a family value”— that the political inclusionistas sported when the nation was debating a constitutional amendment against same sex marriage? It generally was put on a gay rainbow flag background so there was no mistaking who the so-called “hate” was being directed at. And the unspoken inference was that homosexual “love” was a family value  Proponents contended that people “hated” homosexuals because they feared what they didnt understand. If that logic is good for one side, shouldn’t it be applicable for the other? The reason homosexuals hate and fear the truth is because they don”t understand it.

Because people use the word hate in ways that seem only to benefit their presuppositions, it has spawned all types of language weapons such as: “hate crimes”, “hate speech” and the dreaded “homophobia”.

Desplendering hate

Truth is we live in a world system that misunderstands and misapplies hate primarily because they misunderstand God and his word. Jesus said,  “The world will hate you because they hated me” (Mt 10:22, Mark 13:13, Luke 21:17, John 15:18).  And isn’t it interesting that he used the word hate, not dislike. And isn’t it interesting that he said the world would never love us because we identify with and tell HIS truth?  The world eschews hate only when its to their benefit to do so.

Hate has various uses and definitions which must be applied appropriately if we are to have an honest conversation about it.

Its impossible to list all the shades, variations and nuances of hate.  Like legion, they are many. Some hate is morally neutral while some hate is morally sinful. For  example, I can say that I hate cole slaw (and I really do) and no one would blink an eye. But if I said I hate Barak Obama (and I don’t), some people would be ready to call the secret service. Some hate causes people to stay away from dangerous things while some hate causes people to commit dangerous acts.

Thus, not all hate is wrong. The variations of hate can fall into one of the following three main categories:

Im in 100% agreement with everything Sis Simone is saying in this video. Since she has done a great job talking about why we should name names, here’s my own succinct list of guidelines I use to determine whether or not I will name names. Not all conditions must be present on any given decision.

The conditions of naming names of false teachers:
1. When it is done or said publicly
2. When the person is in leadership or in a role of influence within the Christian church
3. When the person has a verifiable history of unbiblical teachings
4. When the person has a verifiable history of associating or affirming heresy from others
5. When the Holy Spirit says to do it
6. When the person demonstrates no attempt to consider their error of their teachings in light of scripture
7. When there is clear evidence of apostate/heretical teaching
8. When a credible source has already reported the information publicly

Dr. Michael Brown a messianic Jewish believer with the  Charlotte based Coalition of Conscience laid out the stark reality of why homosexual activists in the political realm and homosexual activists in the religious realm are having so many stunning “successes”. Little to no opposition of substance from the church. Brown admitted to attendees at the National Conference on Apologetics that six years ago, he paid little attention to homosexual activism and saw no need to personally confront it.

Story via the Christian Post:

Dr. Michael Brown believes Christians have already lost the battle when it comes to public opinion on homosexuality and gender identity issues.

Pro-gay books are being read in elementary school classrooms, teachers are being mandated to use gender neutral language, gay activists have been welcomed in the White House, and young evangelicals see no problem with same-sex marriage.

Yet the prevailing thought in churches is that “this stuff is happening elsewhere” or that Jesus is coming back soon and “we’re out of here any minute,” Brown, a Jewish believer in Jesus, lamented.

In response to the unceasing antics of the gay christian movement, we hear “Jesus is coming”  a lot on this blog and perhaps people who say it mean well. Yes, Jesus is coming soon, but he told us to “occupy until he comes” (Luke 19:13). That simply means that as representatives of the kingdom of God, we are to actively resist the forces of darkness until he arrives, removes us and then once and for all vanquishes all foes of the Kingdom of God. In short, its our own disobedience and disconnect  allowing the progression of what we wake out of our slumber to complain about. With all the brazen blasphemies Jim Swilley unleashed at his homosexual debutante coming out  party, one would think there would be an outcry from churches in Atlanta alone, but sadly few if any will stand up and publicly rebuke him.

I said this before but it bears repeating. Our mandate is not to eradicate sin, but to restrict, restrain and use our influence to subdue its influence. Its intentional, strategic warfare until our King returns to “handle thangs”. But as we can plainly see with homosexual aggression we are not doing that.  We’re giving it a pass. Some of that is attributed to the massive PR campaign by said activists to deceive people into thinking the GLBT agenda and words are those of oppressed victims.

Brown highlighted just a few examples of how homosexual political and social activism have already drastically changed things around us, and how Christians act as if it will have no effect on them. This is an external threat to the church.

“The definitions of male and female are being eroded but don’t sweat it because praise the Lord you had a lovely service last Sunday,” he said sarcastically. “Don’t let me disturb you with these trivialities.”

Brown wants to awaken the conscious of Christians and bring them to a “divine reality” about what’s happening in America.

There is a need to reach out to homosexual men and women with compassion, he said, but at the same time there is “a gay activist agenda that we must resist.”

The speaker and author listed a host of examples, particularly in the public school system, to demonstrate how much GLBT (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender) activism has advanced.

Currently, the Los Angeles Unified School District has a policy on “ensuring equity and nondiscrimination” for “transgender and gender nonconforming students.” The policy defines gender identity as “one’s understanding, interests, outlook, and feelings about whether one is female or male, or both, or neither, regardless of one’s biological sex.”

Likewise, through this blog,  we’ve dedicated ourselves to educating the church on an internal threat at the hands of the gay christian movement. Literally, every area of church life and administration has undergone drastic changes forced through by religious homosexuals. They are but a religious version of the political activists. They have one goal and one agenda. Dismantle and silence all opposition to homosexuality.

With this threat both external and internal already producing massive changes and deadly consequences, literally none of the major church conferences that go on from year to year even so much as acknowledge it. This gives a false reading that all is well. And what that produces is a lazy complacency in the church which never evokes the passion to fight and resist.

What becomes of a people who neglect their duty to fight and resist?

Matt 5:13″You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.

Our (thats you, me and we) failure to stand up and fight will render us useless and God will allow these same people to run roughshod over us.

Related: See why we need both apologetics and polemics to effectively fight against homosexual activism.