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Matthew Vines Reformation Project trainee: male on male sex romps okay as long as they are “Christ honoring”

821c1c522ff0cdac6dc1efc25fee1707Interesting point raised by Stasis Online about how followers of Matthew Vines’  gay christian Reformation Project regurgitate silly religious context memes as justification for homosexuality. Basically, they contend that same sex relationships are okay as long as they are “loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring”. Please don’t laugh, they are serious. Cultural context is very important to the reformers.  This group of reformers all born in within the last 50 years or so have concluded that the preceding 2,000 years of church doctrines, leaders who personally walked with or were called by Christ (Paul, Peter, Jude, etc) and even social norms ALL got it wrong.  Even Peter, Paul, Jude and the apostolic fathers who shed their blood for the church actually lived in the culture they wrote about, the RPers say they got it wrong. As one wrote on a Charisma comment section: “One has only to do the work and learn for themselves to understand cultural context and original language to see the Bible was never speaking about loving, monogamous Christ honoring same sex relationships.”

The revelation of arrogance and ignorance of the arrogance encased in such words are stunning. But such are the enlightened beliefs of the reformers.

As Stasis pointed out there’s some serious intellectual thuggery going on with Matthew Vines and his Reformation Project. How can you assert cultural context is important to the textual revelation but ignore the implications of your own textual gymnastics? We decided to give the cultural context theory a whirl and see if its legitimacy is adaptable to the other sexual prohibitions located in close proximity to the homosexual prohibition.

The assertion is that homosexuality is exempted because in context a “loving, monogamous Christ-honoring” man on man sex romp is acceptable. The Reformation Project’s thesis reads like this:
Sex between two men or two women is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring. But does it work with the other perversions? Let’s see if they work.

Sex with your mother is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring.
Sex with animals is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring.
Sex with your blood brother or sister is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring.
Sex with your grandchildren is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring.
Sex with your neighbor’s wife is okay as long as its loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring.

All of these sexual relationships are banned along with homosexual relationships in the same passage and provides no distinctions between any of them. There are no astericks on the homosexual prohibition (vs22). If the context is really about loving, monogamous and Christ-honoring relationship why doesn’t it work with all the other prohibitions?

Can someone inform the Reformers that what they are trying to reform cant be reformed because the original author wont allow it?  Even scarier?:  Matthew Vines may be the new Charles Manson of the gay religious world. His followers seem ready to kill the truth on command for him.

 

Pastor David Slautterback expels unrepentant homosexual from congregation

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Discipline is something religious homosexuals aka gay christians reject without even so much as a thought. The god they subscribe to is too loving to hold them accountable for anything they do or say. This god’s love has zero accountability. Consequently, any scriptures that require discipline, accountability, judgment, discernment, holiness, sexual purity, self control, or personal responsibility are summarily rejected. This is because religious homosexuals have been seduced by the sexual orientation lie.  The sexual orientation lie says that homosexuality is a gift from God. You are made the way you are and nothing can change that. Furthermore, anything you do and say as a result of  your sexual orientation is exempt from any correction.

If a church can’t discipline its members according to the directives of the scriptures, it will open itself up to all forms of rebellion and apostasy.  A case in Pennsylvania is showing just how difficult it will be for pastors who allow unrepentant homosexuals to dictate the terms of acceptance in the fellowship of the saints.

Bobbie Pierce, 20, of Mount Wolf, said he is being denied membership and communion at Ambassador’s Bible Chapel in Newberry Township because he is gay. Pierce said he has attended the church for years, and he was baptized there.
Pastor David Slautterback said that he and other church elders removed Pierce from the church’s membership — and announced that fact to the congregation during the church service last Sunday — because Pierce has failed to have a change of mind concerning his sexuality.

Slautterback said Friday that he and the other elders want Pierce to repent for his sin and to return to fellowship at the church, where he is still welcome to attend as long as he does not cause division or speak contrary to scripture.

Pierce said he has attended the church for years, and he was baptized there.

Pastor David Slautterback said that he and other church elders removed Pierce from the church’s membership — and announced that fact to the congregation during the church service last Sunday — because Pierce has failed to have a change of mind concerning his sexuality.

Slautterback said Friday that he and the other elders want Pierce to repent for his sin and to return to fellowship at the church, where he is still welcome to attend as long as he does not cause division or speak contrary to scripture.

Slautterback said neither he nor other members of his church hate Pierce. “We placed Bobbie under church discipline out of love for Bobbie and regard for his soul,” Slautterback said.

You should be mourning, instead you are puffed up

Just like the situation in 1 Cor 5, the offender found others who supported him in his outrageous sexual sin. Pierce, instead of submitting to the pastor’s discipline as a voluntary member,  threw out suggestive accusations of suicide. That was backed up not by scripture but by “research” and attempts to paint the church as hateful.

Pierce posted on the York Daily Record’s Facebook page a letter he said he received from the church. He said he decided to talk about what was happening with him because he wants others to know they’re not alone.

“I’ve heard so many stories of someone who is homosexual who has a strict Christian family, who commits suicide,” Pierce said. He admitted that he has felt that way a few times, but his friends have helped him to feel better.

Pierce said he hasn’t chosen to be gay. He said he’s done research, looking up scripture and interpretations of scripture online. He believes he is a Christian, and said “homosexuality isn’t a sin, it isn’t a choice.”

Slautterback disagrees. He said he thinks that Pierce can and should change.

“I do not believe that a homosexual person has to be homosexual any more than I believe that a person who is inclined to steal steals,” Slautterback said.

Pierce said he plans to continue attending Ambassador’s Bible Chapel “to show that I’m going to rise above the hate, or at least I’m not afraid.

Via personal experience with Christ, the church is a place of  ongoing change and transformation.  While we are all still subject to sin, at the very least acknowledging our actions as sin help to keep us spiritually transformative. Sadly homosexuals want not only to remain unchanged, but want the church to throw away one it is most fundamental tenets.

Pastor Slautterback and his staff responded in a way that was fair, biblical and loving. Mr. Peirce’s soul is at stake and its an act of love to hold him accountable for his sins if he is to remain part of the family of faith.

First Person testimony: God challenged me about being “born gay”

Editors Note: LaKenya Clanton is a property manager currently living in Florida. She’s been following Christ since 2007. She’s speaking out about her freedom from lesbianism because she wants others to know that questions and doubts no longer dominate her life.  GCM Watch is exclusively  publishing excerpts of her testimony. For the full testimony see note at the end of this article.

Until now, I have never confessed my greatest secret to anyone. For more than 25 years, I, firmly kept hidden the one thing about me that could change the way my closest friends, children, immediate and church family viewed me. This secret, that I am finally free to share with the world, is that I was gay and believed for more than a quarter of a century that I was born that way.
You may wonder why I kept my lesbianism a secret for so many years. Especially since, homosexuality is so widely accepted today and laws are always being modified in support of the Gay community. Truth is, I could never find peace with being who I was, because as a child, I learned early on that homosexuality was wrong, and if I dared embrace it, my final destination would be hell.
It is now, twenty-five years later and I am, finally, able to tell my story. I can, honestly, say any such testimony shared prior to now, would’ve been incomplete. It is as a result of God’s love, mercy, grace, and Spirit that this journey of hurt, pain, shame, loneliness, confusion, depression, yet understanding, conviction and deliverance, that I am able to stand with the full-backing of the Holy Spirit, share my testimony, and possess the unwavering power needed to withstand the type of fire that comes as a result of such a testimony. I know that from this point forward, my life will be under a microscope. But I welcome it. God has given me a testimony. I no longer struggle with the sin of homosexuality! I no longer feel imprisoned in my body, and, now, know for certain that I was not born this way.

I was 11 years old the first time I kissed a girl. Although homosexuality was becoming more and more acceptable in society, I couldn’t let go of the little knowledge I had about God. And that was that this (homosexuality) was something that He did not approve of.
For a long while, the fear of going to hell, especially, for something I should be able to control, governed my actions. Well, that, and, twice as much, the shame I would feel if people knew the truth. So, as you could imagine, I made every effort to conceal my desires. For a while, I was able to refrain from physically acting on my emotions. But that only lasted for a short while. By the time I was 14, I would find myself overwhelmed with lustful desires and consistently watching lesbian pornography in an effort to satisfy my flesh.
The transition to this alternative lifestyle wasn’t instantaneous. With every boundary I pushed, lesbianism consistently crept in. Yes, watching the porn made the doors to this life visible. But the doors were first opened when I learned that my best friend had these same feelings and, in confidence, admitted to me that she was bisexual. I, now, had someone with whom I could relate. Her confession somehow gave my desires validation or justification. Still afraid to tell her my true nature, I just pretended to be curious and eventually allowed her to guide me beyond the doorway and even deeper into this seductive lifestyle.

Before I knew it, I was in a sexual relationship with a different woman. Every time we were together, it felt right. But, when apart, it was as if I had all my senses. I would question myself and God, wondering, “Is this real?” But it had to be! It felt too natural not to be – even more natural than being with a man.

Things soon began to accelerate quickly. I constantly found myself making excuses – justifying my behavior. My mind IMG_0406(1)went from “I will never be with a girl” to “Ok, I’m with a girl but only this once”. I tried to convince myself that “It’s just sex”. But deep inside, I feared that it was more. I really tried to tell myself that the emotions I was experiencing was just surface. I really believed, at the time, that “I would not be with another girl” “Nor, would I ever be in a real relationship with a woman”. But, that wasn’t true. I was would soon be with yet another woman and in a homosexual relationship”. I was going deeper and deeper. And the longer I was with this woman, the more apparent it became that I could never be with a man again.

Throughout my process to freedom, contrary to what many may expect, never did God confront my homosexuality. Instead, he challenged the fact that I, like any other person, was born in sin and shaped in iniquity. Homosexuality was just one of the manifestations of my sinful nature and personal circumstances combined. God made me fully aware of my sin through his word; and, eventually, led me to realize that I was not born this way, but was motivated by the seducing spirit that was in harmony with my flesh.
Learning that this behavior wasn’t uncontrollable or innate, I began to question God even more. I wondered, “Lord, if I was not born this way, why do I still have these desires, even after the cross? Even after confessing my sin and living a life of denial?” Dealing with the mind games and the shame continued to hold me captive.

Even, by this time, knowing that I wasn’t born this way, in my heart, I made myself okay with the fact that I was going to die this way. Knowing I wasn’t born like this should’ve made things easier – gave me hope. But, it didn’t. I’d been robbed of the one excuse I had for not being able to control my behavior. Sure, I believed that God could free me but I couldn’t imagine how. I’d already given my life to Christ. I expected God to heal me immediately. But, he didn’t! And I didn’t know what else I needed to do to overcome. I had no point of reference to go to. There was no one that I knew personally that could walk me through this process. Though my Pastor, and those I valued, spiritually, knew of my past lifestyle, I still felt alone. I wasn’t ashamed to tell them that I was gay as much as I was to share that, even after all these years post salvation, I still feel perverted in my mind. What would they think if they knew that there were nights when I would just cry because I couldn’t understand why these feelings wouldn’t go way?

What felt like breaking, was part of God’s plan. Without even realizing, my healing process had begun. But freedom wouldn’t come without God, first, revealing the root of my weakness – the culprit behind my sexual immorality. Through a series of messages, God allowed me to see that, what kept me bound by my own flesh and hindered me from moving forward in him, was un-forgiveness. Hard to believe that I, failing to pardon the behaviors and actions of those that wronged me, had caused me to become bitter and resentful, and to seek acceptance in hidden places. Unforgiveness had become the fuel that drove my lustful desires. It was “why” I was the way I was.

If you would like to read LaKenya’s powerful, first person account of her freedom story, use the contact page to request the full pdf file for free.

Four lies gay christians tell on the church and the bible

gcmliarRefuting a lie is not for the faint at heart. Liars, the bible says, spend a significant portion of their time devising their putrid concoctions. Lies, ultimately are about manipulating something that otherwise could not be breached under normal circumstances.

Woe to those who scheme iniquity, Who work out evil on their beds! When morning comes, they do it, For it is in the power of their hands. Micah 2:1

Transgression speaks to the wicked deep in his heart; there is no fear of God before his eyes. For he flatters himself in his own eyes that his iniquity cannot be found out and hated. The words of his mouth are trouble and deceit; he has ceased to act wisely and do good. He plots trouble while on his bed; he sets himself in a way that is not good; he does not reject evil. Psalms 36:1-4

While we sleep, liars lay awake planning their lies out and despising what is good. Having said that, lets look at four broad-based lies gay christians and their allies tell on the church and the bible.

1. Christians’ prejudice against homosexuals leads them to misread biblical texts about homosexuality.
Although as superficial a lie as one can tell, it nonetheless has made a serious impact of how some view the authority of scripture and the how it applies to sexual sins. This is the lie of misplaced blame. It supposes that Christians who disagree with homosexual behavior are the ones who created the biblical narrative opposing it, thus they are to blame for what it clearly says. To conveniently label all opposition to a sexual behavior —which carries a deadly spiritual and physical penalty— as “prejudice” is a ludicrous and illogical position. Its like saying opposition to suicide is prejudice against freewill. The truth is that the bible is straitforward about all sexual immorality and makes zero exemptions for homosexual behavior, no matter what context the behavior occurs in or whether the participants are willing or not. Prejudice is judgment without knowledge. But Christians who follow biblical teachings which clearly oppose all forms of homosexuality are acting with integrity and honesty to speak the truth despite the lies told against them.

2. Christian leaders speak out against homosexuality merely to raise funds and increase their visibility.

The lie of impropriety. Why not speak out to raise money? If the money is being used to further the truth, it becomes a necessary function of the mission, plain and simple. What media outlet is going to give Christian leaders free air time? Which ones will give free ad space? If free publicity is being denied due to media bias against Christian leaders who speak out against homosexuality, then raising money is ethical and should be expected. Homosexual activist organizations, particularly the religious ones speak out against Christian leaders while raising money and gain visibility but want to deny that same privilege to others?

3. Scriptures that  condemn homosexual behavior have actually been mistranslated.

This is what we can label a tactical lie. Nothing is lost by simple making broad, but untrue assertions. Ergo, this is  just another convenient tactic to muddy the waters and avoid honest debate about the truth. Has the bible been mistranslated when it comes to homosexuality? It depends on what your definition of mistranslation is.  With gay christians mistranslation means anything that isnt lock-step with their warped interpretations.  CARM (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry) explains why there has been no mistranslaton. At the same time, every errant explanation spoken by a person claiming to be a Christian is no more applicable to the entire Christian faith as it is with any other group of people. We do know as an irrefutable statistical fact that 100% of bible passages [OT, NT] which mention homosexual behavior, condemn it using the strongest possible language. And each different writer who did so, did so independently of the other but all were guided by the inspiration of God.

4. Scriptures that  condemn homosexual behavior have been taken out of context and do not apply to our present society.

This is the second version of the tactical lie aka specious argumentation. By casting doubt on the context of scripture, it produces doubt about its truthful application.  Homosexual social strategists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, write in their book “After the Ball”  that homosexuals should “ muddy the moral waters, that is, to undercut the rationalizations that ‘justify’ religious bigotry and to jam some of its psychic rewards.”  This tactic is stenuously adhered to by the gay christian movement.

First, lets ask these questions in response to this tactical lie. What authority determined that God’s laws and condemnation of homosexuality does not apply to contemporary society? Is this authority credible? Did this authority receive direct revelation from God that his immutable, eternal word has no application to modern society? When did this happen and who is the authority who makes this brazen claim? I will wager that if such a person existed they would be indentified as a prohomosexual cleric who self serving ideology benefits only a small contigent of sexual outlaws and not the greater good of humanity and certainly not the Christian family.

 

Widespread sexual sin invites destruction

Widespread sexual immorality (heterosexual and homosexual)  is an invitation for God to unleash his divine judgment upon the children of men. In a day and age where religious folks use grace as an excuse to wink at sexual sin and nonreligious folk use logical fallacies to justify it, it still merits warning that God is no pushover.

First some contextual history, Paul writes to the Corinthians evoking examples of Isreal’s tragic history with God. Interesting that he cites this to the Corinthians. Perhaps because idolatry and sexual immorality was so rife in culture and had gushed into the church as well.

For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ. Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.” We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. We must not put Christto the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. 1 Cor 10:1-11

Two points that shouldnt escape notice:

1. These things happened as an example to us to avoid so that we also avoid the judgment of God.

2. These things (recorded in the Old Testament) are written for our instruction.

What are some of those things that were written down for our instruction?

In Genesis 19, God utterly destroyed the immoral cities of the plains. He sent burning sulfur from the heavens like rain until everything living was burned to the ground. Archealogists have estimated the population of Sodom and Gomorrah between 600-1200 people.

In Numbers 25, God sent a plague of fatal sexual diseases among Isreal after they rejected his commandment not to have sexual relationships with the women of Moab. 24,000 men died before God halted the plague on behalf of a brave man who took action to stop the sexual sins.

In Judges 19 and 20 we discover that homosexuals in the tribe of Benjamin commit a rape, a civil war erupts when Benjamin refuses to repent or turn over the offenders for punishment. It plunges Isreal into a blood bath. On God’s instructions to the other 11 tribes, men of Benjamin are nearly annihilated. Out of 25,000 only 1,000 remain to repopulate the tribe.

In 1 Kings 14 and 15, Jeroboam known as one of Isreal’s most wicked kings, set in motion events which led to the destruction of the Northern kingdom.  He was a “socially tolerant” ruler who allowed sexual perversion to be celebrated through idolatrous practices.

Sexual immorality is a destructive disease to any society. Our own country is proof of that. More people have been killed over sexual issues that religion ever has. Millions of children slaughtered through abortion. Sexual diseases end millions of lives prematurely.  Governments spend billions attempting to fix a problem that could be resolved with self control. But the wicked refuse to control themselves and they pass laws giving more “freedom” to those addicted to perversion. And the cycle continues and in the process everything and every person loses value. You may call God’s actions barbaric, but he acted to stop what would have been our own self destruction.

We are back at square one. Seems like people will not learn from the past so they are doomed to repeat it and suffer the consequences of it.

 

 

Sinners cant handle the real truth

Sinners have become so comfortable with positive, inspirational motivation messages from naseating religious talking heads in churches today, they get offended when a real man of God speaks the truth to them. Case in point: Chris Broussard’s call into a black radio station to respond to the after issues of his rebuke of Jason Collins’ homosexual announcement. Listen and hear the truth.

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