Category — Yvette Flunder

You dont know Eric Dillard. Just consider him representative of the thousands of deceived religious gays who continue laboring to prop up a lie that has no legs. Dillard once supported deliverance from homosexuality, even singing on a song written about overcoming homosexuality. But false converts never remain true to Christ’s teachings.

“Let’s put everyone back in slavery. 2. Women, no rights for you at all. Sit in the back of the church and be seen and not heard. 3. If anyone gets divorced, women take cover because you’re about to be stoned. And on top …of that, none of you will be getting remarried and have it smiled on in the congregation of saints as we watch you walk down the aisle in your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th tuxedo and white wedding dress.

When people refer to homosexuality as being a sin. We first need to know in “what” context it’s referring to and then what is the distinction of it. Because the way that the Bible (written by faulty men) states, even if you’re feminine you are not going to Heaven. That has nothing to do with being gay at all. The Amplified Bible goes further to call it out right homosexuality.So again, this is not about making homosexuality right. But if we’re going to be consistent. Let’s be consistent. How consistent are we really…..?

When confronted with the truth about their sins, religious homosexuals (just like their political counterparts) typically trot out a series of illogical arguments intended to somehow tie biblical teaching about homosexuality to other forms of human oppression.

The major flaw with this ideology is derived benefit. Derived benefit, in this case is something that is financially advantageous for those in power. The flawed logic used by the gay christian movement is severely juvenile in its scope. Its almost like a schoolyard “yo mama” perspective. Not only are Eric Dillard and his progay cohorts grossly misinformed about history and social movements, it appears they aid and abet the deception by claiming to be fighting against the very lie they now help to uphold.

Dillard’s premise that we must know what “context” sin is, is within itself a major sign that such a person is only seeking a derived benefit for themselves. In the eyes of God, sin has no “context”. Sin is any and everything, whether consensual or nonconsensual that defies God’s standards. It doesn’t matter who commits sin, whether its committed in thought or deed. If it falls short of God’s clearly stated standards of holiness and righteousness, it is sin. Only a foolish and disobedient mind would seek some sort of contextual exemption clause.

Now, let’s follow the money trail.

1 Timothy 6:10. For the love of money is the root of all evil.  Thus, money helps to supply what the evil hearts of men desire until it consumes all in its cyclic and systemic obsession.

1. Slaveowners derived a tangible financial benefit from misinterpreting scripture to keep blacks under the bondage of slavery. The perversion of religious teaching from the mouths of the slaveowners was simply a means to achieve an end. It was a calculated deception including forbidding the slaves to learn to read. Telling the slaves that God and/or the bible wanted the blacks to serve their white masters helped slaveowners to continue reaping the benefits of free labor estimated at billions of dollars.

“Slavery is fundamentally an economic phenomenon. Throughout history, slavery has existed where it has been economically worthwhile to those in power. The principal example in modern times is the U.S. South. Nearly 4 million slaves with a market value of close to $4 billion lived in the U.S. just before the Civil War. Masters enjoyed rates of return on slaves comparable to those on other assets; cotton consumers, insurance companies, and industrial enterprises benefited from slavery as well. Such valuable property required rules to protect it, and the institutional practices surrounding slavery display a sophistication that rivals modern-day law and business.”–The Economic History Association

2. Anti-suffrage males  fought against women’s rights primarily for financial gain. Sharing jobs with women meant that men would lose their dominant edge in the workplace, thus lose their financial power (and perks). Denying women the right to vote was simply a tool to keep them out of power while ensuring that money and jobs remained in the hands of men. Like the white slaveowners, the social oppression of women by men was all but assured to duplicate itself  in the church because the same men populated the church.

“The idea that the only “true” woman was a pious, submissive wife and mother concerned exclusively with home and family.” –History.com

Men derived a tangible financial benefit by misinterpreting scripture to keep women subservient and silent in the presence of men. Jesus himself restored the equality of women and at the same time maintained the order of God’s creation. And he did it with no conflicting variance. A man who finds a woman for a wife finds something good. And as a single woman, she is good before he marries her. But sharing power with women threatened the financial benefits men derived and thus twisting the scripture use but a natural progression to maintain the status quo. Like denying them the right to vote, keeping them silent and subservient in the church served the greater purpose.

3. The white jim crow racists of the 60s also financially benefited by misinterpreting scripture about the equality of African Americans. Using barriers of unjust laws and deceptive ideology, white racists kept in place the system that prevented African Americans from reaching positions of power and thus achieving equality with whites. Keeping blacks out of jobs that paid commensurate wages, kept black people out of power. Like the other deceptive and dehumanizing socio-religious pograms before the jim crow era, the power of money was the bottom line motivation. While segregationists could not en masse prevent blacks from gaining ground, in the south and pockets of other parts of the country, the tactics against them helped slow progress considerably.

Lying pay$ off

The clear common thread in all oppressive movements was financial gain which facilitated systemic power over another group.

But there exists no such financial benefit for people who correctly interpret scripture in reference to homosexual practices. No one who believes, teaches and upholds the sexual standards of the bible stands to benefit financially from doing so. In an ever increasing age of intolerant tolerance, such people and organizations actually are penalized for not falling in line with homosexual inclusion ideology.  Logically, for the church to be compared to the aforementioned oppressive movements, it would have to allow homosexual inclusion.

Therefore its the  religious progays who are financially benefiting from the misinterpretation of scripture just like slaveowners, anti-suffrage sexists and jim crow racists.

For example, the United Church of Christ was the first “major” US denomination to endorse homosexual marriage in 2005. That decision cost them over 200 local congregations. Faced with growing deficits, the UCC courted fringe gay religious groups. It benefited financially (and image-wise) from the influx of scores of fringe black pentecostalesque homosexual churches led by lesbian bishop Yvette Flunder. Now those churches (and other homosexual churches) bear the name UCC which gives them legitimacy. According to the Institute on Religion and Democracy, the UCC bled out over 1 million members in the last 40 years, with some 40,000 members running away from the sinking ship on its 50th anniversary year.

To counter this, homosexual (political and religious) activists have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into dead religious organizations, rewarding them for the benefit of lying about God’s standard for sexual expression. It was a major financial payoff in exchange for twisting scripture in favor of homosexual practices.

“Our gay dollars can turn the tide, sending a message that attacking us has grave consequences and the reprisals could very well cost a person a job or celebrity endorsements as we have seen with retracted statements and public apologies from Isaiah Washington and Tim Hardaway. Our gay dollars can also assert a proactive stance in which we frame the public religious discourse on our own terms. For example, “OutGiving is more than just a gathering of philanthropists – it’s a specific, focused, and streamlined roadmap to making your dollars do more … to increase capacity on the frontlines of the fight … where they can have the greatest impact,” Tim Gill, founder and chairman of the Gill Foundation, wrote in a open letter to this year’s conference participants. The time is now for us to assess our impact on American Christianity in this country, and to assert our muscle in today’s political landscape, especially against a party more set on winning votes at the ballot box than souls in the church.” –lesbian activist Rev. Irene Monroe

If  the progay clerics and organizations and had any intellectual honesty, they would inform their followers that they are part of a longstanding tradition of lying for financial gain. American slaveowners did it, the anti-suffragists did it, the jim crow racists did it and the pro homosexual apostate church is doing it.

The fake savior of the US took advantage of another opportunity to legitimize homosexual apostates by giving them access to his Easter extravaganza aka “prayer breakfast”.

In attendance: false teacher Yvette Flunder and lesbian bishop of the Fellowship which she’s selling piece by piece to the  majority white gay MCC denomination. Its a money issue.  Harry Knox who said New Testament teaching on homosexuality is a lie and MCC head witch Nancy Elder, the gay denomination with clergy leaders who have openly talked about masturbating to images of Christ, invited people to deface the bible, allows members to make belief in Jesus optional, portray Jesus in books as a sexually promiscuous homosexual, and purchased a $55,000 ventriloquist version of Jesus to help spread their lies.

To the affirmation hungry gay christian movement, such recognition is a drug:

“MCC was well represented at this week’s Easter Prayer Breakfast hosted by U. S. President Barack Obama. The breakfast was held at The White House in observance of Holy Week, with 130 clergy and denominational heads present.
In attendance were, from left to right, Bishop Yvette Flunder, Senior Pastor of City of Refuge UCC in San Francisco, California, who is also MCC clergy; Rev. Harry Knox, Senior Pastor of Resurrection MCC in Houston, Texas; and Rev. Elder Nancy Wilson, Moderator of MCC.”

Of course the starry eyed pastors and assorted false teachers, hirelings and assorted other noted religious leaders wouldn’t have known that. The reasons are too obvious.

Bishop Vashti McKenzie “prayed” (after Obama’s prayer joke) that Easter “reversed Good Friday”. However the AME bishop is in grave error. The resurrection didn’t reverse what happened on Cavalry, it was the climax. His passion and suffering was prophesied in Isaiah 53. If the horror of the cross was reversed  then nothing  that happened afterwards is authenic.

Although Obama’s harem of false prophets were up in arms when people “questioned the president’s faith”, they were silent when the religious left  foamed at the mouth for George Bush simple mentioning of his faith. Then, it was all about “speaking truth to power”. But now, SOTUS is a “brother in Christ”.

But the questions persist. God commanded the priests to put a difference between holy and unholy (Lev 10:10). Can we with any integrity call those who profane the name of Christ and call his word a lie, brothers and sisters in Christ?

Does a follower of Christ say this or do this? What about this? Why would they do this if they value scripture? Does this sound like someone who follows Christ?

Yvette Flunder’s Fellowship of pentecostal homosexuals is touting its upcoming churchfest.

But there’s an interesting arrangement of guest speaker pictures.

There’s no debating that Carlton Pearson has changed over the years. The question however remains: By his hand in glove advocacy of homosexuality is Pearson preparing the way for others or for himself?

Slated to appear at the Fellowship’s annual religious production, is Pearson’s picture placement telling a story?

1. From a COGIC evangelist, Flunder devolved into a lesbian bishop.

2. Wyatt Greenlee paid his fees and followed her as a gay bishop’s assistant.

3. Tonex/Anthony Williams/B.Slade  trekked out of the breeding ground of  strange fire to the heart of religious hedonsism.

4. Jim Swilley saw the devastation caused by other sexually perverted ministers in his family but still devastated many of his church’s members with his gay liefest.

5. After trying out traditional pentecostalism,  gay church circuit parties, then weird new thought religion, is Carlton Pearson next in line?

We’ve seen it before with so-called inclusion clerics claiming they were only trying to seek justice and equality for gay church and/or family members. But later we found out that they were just testing the waters to see how much public support they could elicit for their own private abominations. See this man, this man and this man [b].

Some people have a rather bizarre way of creating change but its just an example of how the homosexual activist movement is brainwashing its recruited youth into their fatalistic all-the-world-hates-us -and-wants-us-to-die ideology.

Jason Conner the “director of programs” at  Soulfarce and a former Mormon and equality rider blogged about his harrowing experience with Christian teens when he went to Minneapolis, in a quest to learn how to “create change” the gay way. The Creating Change conference featured such gay christian luminaries as Yvette Flunder, Nancy Wilson and sponsored by such companies as American Airlines and Wells Fargo Bank. Connor’s account is drowning in irony, but I doubt if he or those who schooled him will ever see it.

Via Americans for Truth about homosexuality, we learn that some of the  “change’ gay activists want to create is

• Using polling, focus groups and emotional arguments to persuade evangelical Christians to ignore Scripture and accept homosexuality-based “rights”;
• Using the tragedy of homosexual youth suicides to shame Christians into stop calling homosexuality sinful;
• Pro-homosexuality lessons for grade school kids (because waiting until middle school is too late to reach them);
• “Non-judgmental condom advocacy for young men in the name of HIV prevention — and even being non-judgmental in “safe sex” training when it comes to bizarre/disgusting “fetish” behaviors

Conner and his company of  ideological changelings went into maximum crisis mode when they discovered that the peaceful group of Christian kids wanted to pray for them. Gasp, what shall we do? These kids are both conservative AND fundamentalist!

“During the final full day of Creating Change, another conference was going on at the convention center next door and was a youth event hosted by a very fundamentalist group of “Christians”. Some of the youth had been instructed by their leaders to proselytize to folks at Creating Change and were encouraged to pray over us, invite us to “accept Christ”, and even suggested laying their hands on us! Here, a whole convention of youth are being told that our beautiful Queer identities are not wonderful, integral parts of our spirits which should be celebrated, but instead should be prayed for.

This kind of spiritual violence is exactly what we aim to dismantle in programs like the Equality Ride and in the other denominational actions Soulforce has participated in since our inception in 1999. Unfortunately, this kind of event is all too common and although I am an advocate for free speech and freedom of religion, I don’t believe in hate speech, homophobia, queerphobia, transphobia, and blatant spiritual violence as was exemplified by this group, and many of the other conservative “Christian” groups out there. This is the same language and intent that has kept me closeted for the first 24 years of my life and, more importantly, the force that encourages Queer people to take our own lives. This is not an issue of speech for me, but instead an issue of hate. When this kind of spiritual violence is perpetuated, people are killed, communities are ripped apart, and countless others are living in silence, fear, and shame.”

Let’s see, Conner accuses the teens of –lets count it out–: (1) hate speech (2) spiritual violence (3) murder (4) community anarchy (5) homophobia (6) queerphobia (7) transphobia and (8) not celebrating the wonders of homosexuality. Additionally, he says fear of the teens kept him locked in the closet for the “first 24 years of his life” which is an amazing feat seeing that Conner is only 26 years old.  Its not clear if any of the teens from the Acquire the Fire convention actually ever encountered the creating changers but, Conner says they were taking no chances.

All of the unnecessary invective hurled by Conner at the Christian teens proves what a farce the conference was. The vision of their religious Practice Spirit, Do Justice set up?

“We will deeply hold, acknowledge and learn from our differences as we engage in the transformational work of finding the overlaps in our stories and experiences. We will create a space where respectful, direct and accountable dialogue can take place during our time together.”

To sum things up, Connor learned at the creating gay change conference that:

A. Christian teenagers who want to pray for gays are dangerous, hateful and are guilty of killing gays and intimidating others into silence.

B. Change means things staying the same. Homosexuals don’t need to be changed even though they hold ironic conferences called “creating change” with the intent on changing everybody else.

Well the year is coming to a close and what a year it has been.  Gay Christian Movement Watch is thankful for every single person who has supported us in word, thought and deed. Going forward, we promise to stay on the wall: sober, vigilant and ready to keep you informed of the enemy’s devices.

Here’s a list of our top ten stories of 2010 (source:  google analytics).

1. CNN Interview about Bishop Long yeilds painful surprise. CNN Anchor Don Lemon reveals he was sexually molested by another man.

2. A litany of lies from Bishop Jim Swilley. An Atlanta area religious leader comes out of the closet with a bucket full of lies about homosexuality.

3. Bishop Long facing lawsuits. Megachurch leader faces four damaging sexual coercion lawsuit from young men formerly under his “watch”.

4. Ted Winn on the CoCo Brother show. Gospel music industry worker Ted Winn ducks, dodges and evades the obvious and in the process reveals the obvious.

5.  “If I be a lying prophet”. A Connecticut bishop makes a stunning comment at a funeral and then 30 days later he is dead.

6.  Lesbian bishop remembers gospel singer’s influence. Gay false prophetess Bishop Yvette Flunder partially opens the closet doors on former friend and “mentor” the late Walter Hawkins.

7. Brian Carn sees perversion in a vision. A Florida based black church prophet claims God showed him a major church leader in a homosexual context but does not reveal who it is. Eddie Long?

8.  Cogic bishop puts Tonex in the drivers seat. Once promising gospel industry worker turned gay church poster boy “preaches” at a New York COGIC (Intl) church.

9. Yahoo reports christian “star” now a lesbian. A former Christian singer uses her homosexuality announcement to create hype about her career aspirations.

10.  Its gay “holy” convocation time again. Atlanta’s mock pentecostal denomination the UPPC, holds convocationfest.

CHICAGO – The Chicago Tribune is reporting that Gospel singer Albertina Walker of Chicago died on Friday at the age of 81.

Born in Chicago in 1929, Walker began singing in the choir of West Point Baptist church at the age of 4. Walker was urged to pursue a gospel singing career by the woman who became her mentor, iconic gospel great Mahalia Jackson. Walker launched her official career at age 22, when, urged by Jackson, she formed her group the Caravans. She was a fixture in body and spirit at Chicago’s Gospel Festival since the event’s inception, both solo and with the Caravans.

Walker had been battling emphysema, and died Friday morning in a Chicago hospital, where she had been since late August.

Walker was noted by those in the black gospel music industry as an influential and “iconic” fixture in the black gospel music world for decades but in 2007 had an unpleasant public brush with the gay christian world and its musical tentacles. Walker agreed to perform at lesbian bishop Yvette Flunder’s nefarious Fellowship Conference.  GCM Watch broke the story in June 2007 with controversial results.

After learning of our story, GCM Watch was contacted by Walker’s granddaughter who stated that the gospel singer was in essence tricked by Flunder’s camp into performing at the event. Tina Nance said that Walker was “quite upset” at being booked at a gay church conference and would put policies in place to prevent it from happening in the future.

“My name is Tina Nance and Albertina Walker is my Grandmother. I came across this article while visiting her today for her Birthday. Let me first say that my grandmother did not know the background of this organization until after the event, had she known this information she would not have been a part of this program. When she learned of this information, after the fact she was quite upset, but by then it was too late. The management company that books the CARAVANS has made the appropriate changes to their process to ensure that this situation does not occur in the future.

Furthermore, I do not understand why my grandmother was singled out when she appeared at this event as part of the Caravans not as a soloist. I realize that her name is perhaps the most recognizable on the flyer, but it would’ve been responsible to mention that she performed with the Caravans and not as a soloist. My grandmother does not in anyway support or promote this lifestyle, this was very simply a case of her not being given pertinent information. Finally, I would like to add that Albertina Walker is possibly the easiest artist to contact on Earth, it would not have been at all difficult for a responsible journalist to reach her.”

You can read the entire story and our response to Tina Nance here.